Respectful Advice Requested

**Merlin2299** · 01-11-2013, 06:05 PM

OK - Have done numerous cycles over the last 4 years. Usually do bulking cycles - Test / D-Bol / Deca Going to change things up a little and try a cutting cycle. Wanted advice on best first cutting cycle. First off - i'm 6'0" 252 lbs - Have good solid muscle base but not very lean - 18%.

Looking at 12 week cycle

Test C - 600 wk for week 1-12
Tren E - 300 wk for week 1-7 (2 vials) honestly just not a fan of so frequent shots for Tren A (have done Tren E. once before for strength gains)
Winstrol - 50mg day - weeks 7-12
adding Clenbuterol at end

8Exemestane - 12.5 daily
Bromocriptine - 1.25 daily for Prolactin

any advice would be appreciated.

**Z499** · 01-11-2013, 06:12 PM

have you looked at any cut stacks?

**dieseljimmy** · 01-11-2013, 06:14 PM

I have has good luck with tren e. some have said it like tren a but harder to control if things go wrong. This has not been my experience.

Anavar would be a safe bet. I'm nuts for Masteron. Masteron e may be a little softer then tren.

**longworthb** · 01-12-2013, 05:51 AM

If u have 2 vials of tren e u should have enough to run 400 ew for 10 assuming its dosed like it usually is 200per ml. I'd say drop the test to a trt dose and run tren e at 400ew. This always works better for me. I've ran it both ways.....test higher then tren and tren higher then test. Always less sides when I run low test high tren but everyone is different and everyone responds different. Mast is also a nice addition but unless ur low body fat u won't see much from it. Good choice on the winny also

**the_predator** · 01-12-2013, 08:38 AM

Why the Clen just at the end? You have to run 2 on 2 off anyway so why not run it throughout?

**D-Lats** · 01-12-2013, 08:42 AM

I personally think test should be increased after the first half of the cycle as your body gets used to the same dose.

**Z499** · 01-12-2013, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by the_predator

Why the Clen just at the end? You have to run 2 on 2 off anyway so why not run it throughout?

add keto with clen and you can run it longer, you can run it up to 3 months on

**Merlin2299** · 01-12-2013, 08:28 PM

Thanks for the reply's guys. After taking all into account - i think i am gonna change it up just a little

test c - 400 wk
tren e - 400 wk
Winny - 50 day
clen - throughout - will have to do on/off - don't have keto

Exemestane - 12.5 day
Bromo - 1.25 day

**Z499** · 01-12-2013, 08:31 PM

add keto with your clen, clen down regulates your beta receptors so the effect wont last as long, where as keto inhibts the down regulation of your beta receptors thus allowing you to run keto for up to 3 months with good results, if you dont run keto i would run clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

**Merlin2299** · 01-12-2013, 08:42 PM

good to know - and i had one miss type - i did decide to switch to mast instead of winstrol. Thanks guys.

**Z499** · 01-12-2013, 08:48 PM

Good choice cause winny will dry your joints and hurt your good cholesterol.

**Z499** · 01-12-2013, 08:50 PM

Wow didn't even realize I double posted *face palm*

**malfeasance** · 01-14-2013, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Merlin2299

OK - Have done numerous cycles over the last 4 years. Usually do bulking cycles - Test / D-Bol / Deca Going to change things up a little and try a cutting cycle. Wanted advice on best first cutting cycle. First off - i'm 6'0" 252 lbs - Have good solid muscle base but not very lean - 18%.

Looking at 12 week cycle

Test C - 600 wk for week 1-12
Tren E - 300 wk for week 1-7 (2 vials) honestly just not a fan of so frequent shots for Tren A (have done Tren E. once before for strength gains)
Winstrol - 50mg day - weeks 7-12
adding Clenbuterol at end

8Exemestane - 12.5 daily
Bromocriptine - 1.25 daily for Prolactin

any advice would be appreciated.

Post up your diet. That is going to be more important than you cycle. Assuming that your 18% guess on bodyfat is accurate, then you have to lose more than 20 pounds of fat just to get near 10% bodyfat. That is a bunch - but you can do it if you are serious.

What is your bodyfat percentage goal?

Plans for cardio?

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