Thread: Pro athletes on gear

This really isn't the same at all but I know a LOT of college football players at various colleges around the US and the steroid use among all of them AND their teammates is crazy high.

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So I am sure it just spills over into the pro ranks as well

A lot of MMA fighters are on rHGH, due to the fact they knock their pituitary loose or multiple shots to the head will kill it as well. As for all other mainstream sports, I'd say 75pc of athletes use PED's IMO...

I just find it odd they would tarnish their career and legacy with just one positive test and that alone would deter me from using if I competed at that level. It just seems the risk outweigh the benefits when it's your name on the line. I guess they feel everyone else uses so they need to level the playing field. I've been reading a lot more threads recently about NCAA football players trying to get around their testing but I heard they don't test much in college anyways.

When I played D-1 College football in California, I'd say 85 pc of athletes were using AAS, Ephedrine, and other stems. On game day we would have 4 coffee pots brewing for players. 2 with regular coffee and "the greenie pots".. that were filled with amphetamines from Mecico. So many players got hooked on those stems, it was ridiculous!! In the pros, you're not winning unless you're cheating .. Ask Victor Conte!!!!

Plus you have to remember they're only tested during the season. Knowing when to time cycles and fool tests is what made Balco so big.

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Originally Posted by dave 236

Plus you have to remember they're only tested during the season. Knowing when to time cycles and fool tests is what made Balco so big.

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That and his "clear" was undetectable.

Chemist are always 2 steps ahead of the IOC.

Does anyone know what the "clear" would be comparable to? Like was it similar to winstrol, test, deca, etc? That shit made Bonds huge. I'm sure he was on a lot of other stuff too like HGH but I'm curious what the "clear" was similar to. If I remember correctly, it is a clear liquid that absorbs under your tongue.

What a farce. I think a better question would be, how many don't use. And if they don't, they most likely ride the pine.

Shiite, even guys in wheelchairs take gear or some type of PED's.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

Does anyone know what the "clear" would be comparable to? Like was it similar to winstrol, test, deca, etc? That shit made Bonds huge. I'm sure he was on a lot of other stuff too like HGH but I'm curious what the "clear" was similar to. If I remember correctly, it is a clear liquid that absorbs under your tongue.

From what I was told from a reliable source in Nor Cal, "the clear" was a synthetic testosterone formulated to absorb sublingually or transdermal, also coming up negative on the doping test. Victor is now an advocate of anti-doping? This guy is VERY smart. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working on the next big thing. I know he was using Plasma Enhancers (PE's) on a number of track athletes according to Milos..

If these guys know that other players are using, how else can they compete against them without using themselves? Any sport, especially at the college and pro levels are all about how well you perform. Now a days playing at the higher levels without using would be like trying to play without a helmet. And another point, at the level that these guys compete, week end and week out, games, practice and training and return the next week, they have to be doing something...just my $0.02

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

Does anyone know what the "clear" would be comparable to? Like was it similar to winstrol, test, deca, etc? That shit made Bonds huge. I'm sure he was on a lot of other stuff too like HGH but I'm curious what the "clear" was similar to. If I remember correctly, it is a clear liquid that absorbs under your tongue.

I believe i remember hearing it was a test gel that was formulated to keep the testosterone-epitestosterone ratio within the allowable range...

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Originally Posted by hypo_glycemic

From what I was told from a reliable source in Nor Cal, "the clear" was a synthetic testosterone formulated to absorb sublingually or transdermal, also coming up negative on the doping test. Victor is now an advocate of anti-doping? This guy is VERY smart. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working on the next big thing. I know he was using Plasma Enhancers (PE's) on a number of track athletes according to Milos..

So it's basically similar to Test?

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Or maybe that was the cream. There definitely was one of the 2 that was testosterone though.

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honestly i wouldnt be surprised if the NFL looked the other way regarding AAS... can you imagine how boring football would be if everyone was natural? it'd be a like a bunch of soccer players tackling each other

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

So it's basically similar to Test?

That's what I was told. Not sure there's 100pc validity, but it sounds like that's what it had to be?

Ok. I just used google. The clear apparently was THG and the cream was testosterone/ epitestosteone combo. Like a hopped up androgel that was undetectable at the time.

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Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

honestly i wouldnt be surprised if the NFL looked the other way regarding AAS... can you imagine how boring football would be if everyone was natural? it'd be a like a bunch of soccer players tackling each other

You mean like MLB now? It sucks w/o gear.


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It really depends on the the sport. Since we all seem to be talking about football here, I'd say maybe 50%. You have to remember guys at positions like QB most likely aren't on shit. Plus, there are a lot of genetic freaks.

Idk. Peyton Mannings recovery from what amounts to a neck transplant in a year at his age makes me wonder if he didnt use a little something to help...

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Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

honestly i wouldnt be surprised if the NFL looked the other way regarding AAS... can you imagine how boring football would be if everyone was natural? it'd be a like a bunch of soccer players tackling each other

I agree. I think in MMA they look the other way. Dana White said recently he's more concerned about pot then roids. Look what it did to baseball. People want to watch the extraordinary which is achieved easier by using PEDs. Watching a bunch of athletes that aren't doing extraordinary things just makes for boring tv and tv is big business in all sports.

Off topic, but before Vic was known for his Balco scandal and the Clear, he was a badass bassist for Tower Of Power.
The man had it going on.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Off topic, but before Vic was known for his Balco scandal and the Clear, he was a badass bassist for Tower Of Power.
The man had it going on.

Man. Id completely forgot that.

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Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I agree. I think in MMA they look the other way. Dana White said recently he's more concerned about pot then roids. Look what it did to baseball. People want to watch the extraordinary which is achieved easier by using PEDs. Watching a bunch of athletes that aren't doing extraordinary things just makes for boring tv and tv is big business in all sports.

After you lose the function of the pituitary gland- and it's not talking to "the boys" anymore, then you won't produce hormones. Mainly why almost all MMA fighters take GH/ Test. Dana absolutely turns his head to AAS. If he didn't, he'd have a big problem on his hands.

Originally Posted by Agentyes

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Thats incorrect....i train with a 12 yr nfl vet...he has never used any peds....notbing...not even a multi vitamin...so 100% is the wrong answer...