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    Hey yall. Getting ready to start my first cycle w/ test e as base & loading w/ dianabol tabs. Curious what to expect, what to do & what not to do. Feedback on pct as well & should i take anti estogen during cycle. thanks!
    Stats: 38yrs old, working out for a couple yrs, 6'0 tall 220lbs (some, not much fat).

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    how many mg of test and dbol? 500mg test e ew and 30-40mg dbol daily you will notice nice gains My gains started to plateau on week 8 so i bumped my test e up to 750 ew for the last 4 weeks of my cycle . Be sure to drink water and stay away from alcohol while on dbol, not much sense in over taxing your liver, it working hard enough thanks to the dbol. you will also notice some water retention but thats nature of the beast but you can take razor cuts from IML to help with that. As for pct wait 2 weeks after last injection of test and run clomid for 4 weeks I would say 100 ed week 1 and week 2 and 50 for week 3 and 4. Im sure someone else will chime in with more info.
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    you summed this up pretty good.. got everything covered for a basic cycle.
    only thing i could think of is running an AI through out the cycle or just when symptoms pop up like Aromasin is what i would use.

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    how many mg of test and dbol? 500mg test e ew and 30-40mg dbol daily you will notice nice gains My gains started to plateau on week 8 so i bumped my test e up to 750 ew for the last 4 weeks of my cycle . Be sure to drink water and stay away from alcohol while on dbol, not much sense in over taxing your liver, it working hard enough thanks to the dbol. you will also notice some water retention but thats nature of the beast but you can take razor cuts from IML to help with that. As for pct wait 2 weeks after last injection of test and run clomid for 4 weeks I would say 100 ed week 1 and week 2 and 50 for week 3 and 4. Im sure someone else will chime in with more info.

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    thats what i did, i had an AI on hand and with test e and 50mg dbol i had no symptoms but whos to say that wont happen on my next cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z499 View Post
    thats what i did, i had an AI on hand and with test e and 50mg dbol i had no symptoms but whos to say that wont happen on my next cycle.
    Yep same as me good stuff man how's everything going for u?

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    right now everything is awesome. im on trt 250mg test e ew till march. then im running a cut stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z499 View Post
    right now im on trt 250mg test e ew till march. then im running a cut stack
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    i cant wait till my gear arrives

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    Thanks for input guys! So the Aromasin is an anti estrogen?

    As I said I have some bodyfat so does that make my odds of having gyno side higher?

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    the severity of gyno really depends on the person. and yes Aromasin is an AI and also can help with water retention.

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    I always take an herbal called Water Out from Now products. Its at super supplements and deals with sub Q water so you dont have all eyes on you as you roll your cycle. It wont interfere with the natural water bal in the muscle either which is critical to your gains.
    Last edited by chips; 01-14-2013 at 05:35 PM.

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