Thread: Oral Only Cruise w/250iu HCG EOD

I don't know about your plan man. I have heard of people bridging cycles with proviron. But I really think that's so they can keep their junk still functioning. Maybe slow the loss a little. If your going to cruise why not just get a soft test dose going. I know primo ace is notoriously not liver damaging. And proviron is also fairly mild of the blood panel. So that's not much of a concern and hcg should keep you naturally producing. I just don't think it will be very effective, you got two pretty weak substances in mind. But the truth is I'm wrong all the time, sooo maybe your on to something?!

Primo tabs are pretty useless as far as I know. Very low bioavailability so ur throwing money down the drain with that. Proviron on the other hand can be used fairly effective to bridge also 10mg dbol in the am is a good choice. It's a low dose so not a very good chance of damaging ur liver

the idea of a cruise is to preserve muscle mass between blasts whilst allowing your vitals to recover..



so.. taking this into consideration, you should run something that will preserve your mass

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.


The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.


OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.


When are testosterone levels highest?


Answer: In the AM, thats when.


Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.


When are Insulin levels lowest?


Answer: In the AM thats when.


Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)


OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)


Lets take Subject X.


He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.






He pops 10mgs of dianabol.


Here is where things get interesting.


The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.


The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.


In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.


Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.


HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.


You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!


Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.


10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)


5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.


Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.


Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.


The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.


So, here's the scenario summed up:


Beginning: LOW LH and test.


Adding the 10mgs dball.


LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)


This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!


The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^hmmmmmm I wonder if that would work with M1T which I hear is like Dbol on steroids lol

Originally Posted by OnPoint88

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^hmmmmmm I wonder if that would work with M1T which I hear is like Dbol on steroids lol

m1t is like dbol with tons of sides

screw all ph, not a huge fan of them. expensive and more sides. If your shut down get a script for watson and pin 250 once a week. That is what I plan on doing when I cruise for now on. Let my self shut down get a script and cruise on watson and and allot of fucking HGH...

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

m1t is like dbol with tons of sides

I was thinking a fraction of the dose like long suggested for dbol.