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I have been cutting in anticipation my my 10 week Test E cycle. I have Clenbuterol and was thinking of running 2 weeks of it before starting my cycle, so that I can cut a little more body fat before the cycle. I am 27 years old, 5 foot 8, about 168, and 12-14% bodyfat. Do you guys think a 2 week cycle before starting my test E cycle would be beneficial?
Sure it would. Don't see why it wouldn't. Shed a bit of fat prior to heading into cycle. Then get the swole on.
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How long have you been on the Clen? Or have you been on it at all? And lastly, what are you trying to get out of your test e cycle? If you are still looking for a cut why not start the Clen with your cycle and use the two week on, two week off protocol for the duration of your ten week cycle?
I have not used any of the Clen yet. I am planning to clean bulk throughout my Test E cycle. I have never been over 200 pounds so I am trying to shed some body fat before starting the Test E cycle so I will have more weight to work with if that makes any sense. I just hate gaining much fat so that has kinda held me back in terms of bulking or making big gains. I would like to get down to a pretty slender 163 or so and bulk during the cycle to around 195.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_predator
For the effort & use of it, I'm not totally sure what you're going to get out of 2 weeks of clen. I guess using it as a first run to find where you start to feel it, etc. can't hurt but I wouldn't expect hugely dramatic results on 2 weeks. If you use it, don't forget your l-taurine and don't take it later than like 3pm. If you have trouble sleeping because it is still tweaking you out, IMO the impact to the quality of your sleep (aka recovery time) may negate whatever cutting effect you might get from it.
I'm a fan of clen I take it very often. Before after and during cycle...
Do you experience much in the way of sides with Clen?Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseljimmy
I do not and I take fairly heavy doses. I don't drink or take anyother stims when I'm clen. My trick has always been to drink a lot of water and a little Gatorade while on clen to control cramping.Quote:
Originally Posted by old_man
Clenbuterol
Clenbuterol is prescribed as a bronchodilator for asthma, but also has the additional effect of increasing metabolism. The claim is a 10% increase in metabolism over ECA, which claims a 3% increase in metabolism. (I have seen this often quoted but never found an original study to back this up.) Clenbuterol has a 36-39 hour half-life – meaning if you take it, or worse, too much, you have to ride it out for about a day and a half. Some people panic if they take too much, and head to the Emergency Room, where the doctors will still just tell you that you need to ride it out until it wears off. There is nothing you can take to “make it stop” before then.
Clenbuterol Profile:
· Clenbuterol
· Clen FAQ
Clenbuterol has also been called “anti-catabolic” – meaning it does not promote muscle loss as part of the increase in metabolism to reduce bodyfat. Here are a couple studies that imply that clenbuterol, interestingly on a restricted diet, does promote some amount of muscle growth (or preservation) in research animals:
· Effect of clenbuterol on growth, nitrogen and energy balances and endocrine status in food-restricted sheep.
· Effects of clenbuterol on the metabolism of nitrogen and IGF-I level in isolated perfused rat liver.
Some additional considerations when using clenbuterol:
· Supplement with (3-5g/day) l-taurine – clenbuterol tends to inhibit l-taurine in your system, producing cramps
o The effects of the beta 2-agonist drug clenbuterol... [Amino Acids. 1998] - PubMed result
· Using Ketotifen with clenbuterol (2-3mg ED)
o Ketotifen Profile
o Note Ketotifen is prescribed as an anti-histamine. It can make you sleepy so better to take it at night.
o Effects of ketotifen and clenbuterolon beta-adrenergic receptor functions of lymphocytes and on plasma TXB-2 levels of asthmatic patients:
· Using Benedryl with clenbuterol
o “Bro-telligence” has often recommended using Benedryl to allow you to run clenbuterol longer without an “off” cycle to reduce down regulation of receptors. This is NOT true. Benedryl will only help you sleep if you’re overstimulated by a clen cycle. Ketotifen is the better choice for longer clen cycles.
With regard to cycling clenbuterol, I suppose this falls under bro-telligence. Following are two common cycles:
· 2 weeks ‘on’ / 2 weeks ‘off’ for 8-12 weeks
o Starting at 20 mcg, increasing by 20 mcg units as you can handle, until what you can handle or a maximum of100 mcg per day, and then stay at that amount for the duration of the two weeks. Then stop and go off for 2 weeks, substituting your favorite OTC thermo, and then repeating the 2 weeks ‘on’, again starting at 20 mcg.
· Continued ‘on’ for 8-12 weeks, include ketotifen
o Starting at 20 mcg for a week, increase by 20 mcg per week until what you can handle or a maximum of100 mcg per day, and then stay at that amount for the duration of