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    tren & test e

    hey guys i'm gonna run my first tren & test cycle, i have done a ton of research & i wanted to know if i have everything planned out correctly,

    test e : 400 mg a week, (Monday, Thursday)
    tren : 50 mg every other day (Tuesday, Friday,)
    nolva pct.: 40 mg a day

    is that too little tren? a friends uncle was telling me all i need is a 5 week cycle, but i'm reading around & apparently 5 weeks is crap, & my tren dosing is crap so i'm just a little bit confused. so just a little bit of help & insight would be greatly appreciated. thanks .

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    Assuming the Tren you're using is dosed proplery, then 50 m EOD (175 mg/week) is compleely fine. In my opinion, 150-175 mg/week is an ideal dosing range to start with. I am currently using 40 mg EOD (140 mg/week) and I have been using AAS for years. Remember, you can always adjust upwards if you want, but starting with a large dose is a near gautanteed way to end up with harsh side effects.

    However, I do think 5 weeks is a bit short for an injectable cycle, even one which includes tren. It is possible to runa 5 week tren cycle successfully...and you may end up wanting to come off after 5 weeks if you experience side effects youdon't like, but is the sides are acceptable to you, the 8 weeks is pretty normal.

    Also, I would change your injection frequency with the test. It is true that 2X weekly is normally fine with a longer estered testosterone (I prefer at least 3X weekly, myself), BUT...keep in mind that you will already be injecting Tren EOD...and with plenty of room left in a 3 cc pin, why would you inject your test only @ 2x weekly, when you could just add the test to your tren pin and inject both EOD. Not only will you get a more even blood levels, but you will minimize the total number of injects, as both compounds will always be injected together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    Assuming the Tren you're using is dosed proplery, then 50 m EOD (175 mg/week) is compleely fine. In my opinion, 150-175 mg/week is an ideal dosing range to start with. I am currently using 40 mg EOD (140 mg/week) and I have been using AAS for years. Remember, you can always adjust upwards if you want, but starting with a large dose is a near gautanteed way to end up with harsh side effects.

    However, I do think 5 weeks is a bit short for an injectable cycle, even one which includes tren. It is possible to runa 5 week tren cycle successfully...and you may end up wanting to come off after 5 weeks if you experience side effects youdon't like, but is the sides are acceptable to you, the 8 weeks is pretty normal.

    Also, I would change your injection frequency with the test. It is true that 2X weekly is normally fine with a longer estered testosterone (I prefer at least 3X weekly, myself), BUT...keep in mind that you will already be injecting Tren EOD...and with plenty of room left in a 3 cc pin, why would you inject your test only @ 2x weekly, when you could just add the test to your tren pin and inject both EOD. Not only will you get a more even blood levels, but you will minimize the total number of injects, as both compounds will always be injected together.
    i've heard tren is bad for a first cycle & that test e would be all i need for massive gains,

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