Thread: Next step in cycling journey

1) Age: 21

2) Weight and Percent BodyFat: 5' 8" 235lbs 8-10% (last time at nutritionist 9.18%)

3) Years of Consistant Training experience: 7

4) Previous Cycle experience
#1
400mg test c/week 1-14
250iu HCG x2/week 1-16
.5 adex EOD 1-16

PCT
2 weeks following last pin:
1000iu HCG EOD for 5 inj
100/50/50/50 Clomid
40/20/20/20 Nolvadex

Proper bloodwork before cycle and 6 weeks after completion of PCT, everything G2G

#2
200mg test c/week 1-14
200mg nandrolone decanoate/week 1-13
.5mg adex EOD
250iu HCH x2/week 1-16

PCT
2 weeks following last pin:
1000iu HCG EOD for 5 inj
100/50/50/50 Clomid
40/20/20/20 Nolvadex

Before anyone says anything, i know the dosages maybe considered low, and i know most frown upon running deca equal to test, but i grew great, had no libido sides, and got all the proper bloodwork done post cycle and was G2G. I didnt want to bump my total mg per week because i saw no need to after how well i grew on previous cycle, but wanted to see the effect of a second compound.


5) Training routine and Diet
3 days on, 1 off, 2 on, 1 off, repeat

chest/tris, hamstrings/calves, back/bis, delts/traps, quads/calves (in that order following above schedule

diet
breakfast: 2 cups oats with small carton of egg whites
every 2.5-3 hrs rest of day: 8oz lean protein, 15 oz sweet potato or red potato, or 2 cups of brown rice
last meal of day: 2 cups oats, nonfat plain greek yogurt

logged meals in iphone app for 2 weeks and was between 4800-5200 calories every day

6) Cycle Goals
Continued lean body mass gains, that being said, i have 2 different cycles in mind:

#1
100 Test P EOD 1-10
50 mg Tren Ace EOD 1-8

bump prop to 150 EOD last two weeks to compensate for drop of tren ace, research has pointed me to the conclusion i shouldnt run the tren ace longer than 8 weeks

works out to be 525 mg/week

ran with .5 adex EOD, .5 caber E3D, and 250iu HCG twice per week

#2
400 test c 1-14
200 deca 1-14

.5mg adex EOD
250iu HCH x2/week 1-16

I would really appreciate your honest thoughts and opinions. I recognize that i am consider to young to be using AAS by most peoples standards, but this is a decision i have made, and one that i know i will live with for the rest of my life in terms of TRT and other things. Ive made a decsion to make a whole hearted attempt at seeing how far i can go in bodybuilding, so i find these things to be kind of inevitable with what comes with the lifestyle. I have been lurking on this forum for close to a year reading everything i can get my hands on, and if anyone feels i need to research more, just point me in the right direction and i will get to reading. Once again, i appreciate anyone who takes the time to give me their opinions and constructive criticisms!

Originally Posted by Chrisotpherm

I like number one imo, but maybe I missed it but didn't see PCT? Also if you are going with number two may want to think about aromasin versus adex. Been doing a lot research lately and seeing more and more reads that running adex for long periods of time are bad on the lipids.

using same pct protocol as previous two cycles, unless you think something should be changed. From my research though it should be acceptable as its a relatively light cycle, even though the tren does shut you down hard. What do you think?