Thread: Jay cuttler cycle here

Is it normal to use soo much aas for so long?
I am new to this cycle stuff and thought one aas was enough?

Originally Posted by Gorgeliftsalot

Is it normal to use soo much aas for so long?
I am new to this cycle stuff and thought one aas was enough?

there are people out there who run stacks like this... Most of those people dont come to forums to brag about it.
They just keep it to themselves.
He is just asking for trouble and major criticizing with his post.

Originally Posted by sneez123

25 years old
6'1"
200lb
16% bf

11th cycle

Gonna be a 24 week cycle, I know its long but :/layout looks like this

1-24 sustanon 1g e/w
1-16 deca 600 mg e/w
8-14 tren e 400mg e/w
20-24 tren a 150mg eod
1-4 dbol 75 to 100mg ed
1-4 anadrol 50mg ed
16-24 var 100mg ed
1-24 aromasin 12.5 eod
letro on hand
pct will b Clomid

Few thoughts...
why not dump sust at week 20 and add prop for the last four weeks. Or no test at all, just to dry out.
Dbol and anadrol? I don't know. I run big cycles and 75 mg of dbol a day is ample.

I'm mainly looking for other input on this cycle....not bragging at all bro....sounds like a good idea Jimmy what mg of prop would u recommend bro? ....I haven't run prop before

Originally Posted by sneez123

I'm mainly looking for other input on this cycle....not bragging at all bro....sounds like a good idea Jimmy what mg of prop would u recommend bro? ....I haven't run prop before

Maybe 100 mg ED. You could even go less if you want to really dry out. Switching to prop will help a little with the water. But more importantly its easier to time clomid when all your products half lives end around the same time.

Originally Posted by sneez123

I'm mainly looking for other input on this cycle....not bragging at all bro....sounds like a good idea Jimmy what mg of prop would u recommend bro? ....I haven't run prop before

No worries I wasnt necessarily singling you out.
Obviously with 11 cycles in what was probably 4 years you know what you are doing.
sorry for butting in.

If u don't mind me askin', how many cycles have u ran?

Its alright send it....I'm always looking for input from other people I have a few years under my belt but I'm no expert at all... looks like a good plan Jimmy I'm gonna switch my cycle up a little bit and try prop....I mainly want to gain some serious size and strength and harden it all up at the end

11 cycles and your only 200lbs at 6'1"? If I had to guess your supper lean and all mass but 16% bf dude I dont think you know what your doing. Somethings not adding up. Your results from 11 cycles seek for them selves.

I was doing everything ass backwards...diet was Shit after I finished a cycle I would get lazy, every cycle ive done was test and dbol and anadrol until my last cycle which I blasted tren a at the end....I held my size better and strength.....now I have my diet in check, training in check

So you have only ran test and tren and you think its a good idea to run all that shit in your first post. Good luck

Originally Posted by sneez123

I was doing everything ass backwards...diet was Shit after I finished a cycle I would get lazy, every cycle ive done was test and dbol and anadrol until my last cycle which I blasted tren a at the end....I held my size better and strength.....now I have my diet in check, training in check

Way too much. You say it yourself that your diet stunk and you got lazy after each cycle. Bumping up to an insane amount of aas is not going to fix that. IF your shit is in check then run a basic cycle and get the gains. You are basically starting from scratch based on your stats and do not need to run such a long and huge cycle. Split it in two and take care of your shit in between them (keep the size, keep diet in check and continue to work out) then hit a second cycle 2-3 months later.

wow, 11 cycles?!?!? @ 25?!?! 200lb @ 16%?!?!?! u sure it wasnt bacteriostatic water and yellow food dye u were injecting?! even the laziest guy at 11 cycles is bigger than that bro. im having some trouble wrapping my head around this.

if i were you, id drop down to about 14% (ur not far off) and run a test prop and anavar cycle. see if u can hold onto it after such a short cycle, and it will lean u out a bit. its a short run, low sides, the pinning sucks but id go with that if i was u.

I try to not be negative about stuff and cycles but this one to me is full of fail . Like Whats been said you ran 11 cycles and your stats are not very good for that amount of gear EVEN with being lazy . 11 cycles @ 25 says to me you didnt do any kind of PCT worth anything . With that said your gonna do what you want to so ....

I would not do stack Dbol and anadrol That to me is asking for liver problems even at 4 weeks imho . Id do the anadrol and skip the dbol for the best kick start


Secondly A lot o people from what ive read get deca dick but with tren and deca its been know to kill your dick . Something like provarian can help but not 100%

I would rethink your entire cycle like thats been suggested bro , its for your own good . Just because you can run that much gear doesn't mean you should . there is a point when your sides are more than your gains

If it was me id would do the sus @ 750 ish . deca @ 600 . anadrol 50mg ed

So

Week 1 - 24 sus @750
Week 1-4 anadrol 50mg ed
week 1 -16 deca @600

Or a nice 12 week blast

Week 1-12 sus @750
week 1-4 Tren A 150 eod ( i like tren ED seems to work beeter for me )
week 8-12 tren A 150 eod

then a good pct with clomid AND nolvadex
With 24 weeks your gonna need a good pct to get your test back up and running

Good luck with your choices brother

Originally Posted by sneez123

25 years old
6'1"
200lb
16% bf

11th cycle

Gonna be a 24 week cycle, I know its long but :/layout looks like this

1-24 sustanon 1g e/w
1-16 deca 600 mg e/w
8-14 tren e 400mg e/w
20-24 tren a 150mg eod
1-4 dbol 75 to 100mg ed
1-4 anadrol 50mg ed
16-24 var 100mg ed
1-24 aromasin 12.5 eod
letro on hand
pct will b Clomid

where's the gh????

Gumby u hit the nail on the head bro. Ive never done pct at all until my last cycle (big mistake). I'm gonna do the 24 week cycle that u recommend but at the end say week 20-24 I want to harden everything up. Could I drop everything at week 20 and run prop, tren a and var for the final 4 weeks?

Cycle looks awesome. You need to log it.

Your diet is in check but you are at 16%bf..

You got it bigmo ill log everything ......is aromasin 12.5 mg eod sufficient ? Open to recommendations

Originally Posted by sneez123

Gumby u hit the nail on the head bro. Ive never done pct at all until my last cycle (big mistake). I'm gonna do the 24 week cycle that u recommend but at the end say week 20-24 I want to harden everything up. Could I drop everything at week 20 and run prop, tren a and var for the final 4 weeks?

You could do that but i would just save the prop,tren and var for another cycle . If your dead set on running it that way i would stop the deca at least a month before starting tren . Like i said its been know for those to together to kill your dick . This is a fun game brother play it safe as you can

way to many AAS dude especially the orals, your liver is going to be shot bro seriously. If you just learn to eat right and train right you would benefit waaaaay more from AAS, You're relying on the drugs to do all the work from the sounds of it, you should be way biger with your history of AAS just saying...

Originally Posted by chucky1

way to many AAS dude especially the orals, your liver is going to be shot bro seriously. If you just learn to eat right and train right you would benefit waaaaay more from AAS, You're relying on the drugs to do all the work from the sounds of it, you should be way biger with your history of AAS just saying...

Exactly this man...

You do what you want, of course, but you're wasting a lot of money brother. There's a big difference between your diet being in check by you knowing what you should be eating, rather than actually following it. It sounds like you just want to rely on the AAS to put on mass and you said, fuck it, I'll throw in some tren and var and it will drop my bf. This is not the way to go, at all. Your sides are going to out weigh your gains.

Originally Posted by sneez123

25 years old
6'1"
200lb
16% bf

11th cycle

Gonna be a 24 week cycle, I know its long but :/layout looks like this

1-24 sustanon 1g e/w
1-16 deca 600 mg e/w
8-14 tren e 400mg e/w
20-24 tren a 150mg eod
1-4 dbol 75 to 100mg ed
1-4 anadrol 50mg ed
16-24 var 100mg ed
1-24 aromasin 12.5 eod
letro on hand
pct will b Clomid

wow man, that is ridiculous. There is so much wrong with this, just start from scratch.

Originally Posted by sneez123

You got it bigmo ill log everything ......is aromasin 12.5 mg eod sufficient ? Open to recommendations

You should already know the answer to this if you have ran 11 cycles and know what you are doing. Research my man. IMHO you just need to stop doing anything until you have educated your self better on AAS.

This can't be real. It's damb good entertainment as usual. Fun stuff. Hahaha

Bunch of haters up in this joint. Cant wait to see this bro get jacked.

Lol or get hospitalized. He's small and out of shape. This cycle is rediculous. Subbed

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

Bunch of haters up in this joint. Cant wait to see this bro get jacked.

Haters ? not hardly , can he get jacked doing this , hell yeah . Is it necessary and safe FUCK NO . With this guys stats hell just a good test cycle and a good diet would do wonders