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    Will 100mgs of Test Cyp a week keep me from losing muscle?

    Hey everyone! This is my last week of a 10 week bulking cycle. I have been using 500mgs of test cyp a week. I have made some good gains, 18lbs in total.
    Now I know some of that is water weight and fat. But what I am wondering is, I am on TRT through my Doc. I am supposed to be doing 100mgs a week. So when I go back to just the 100mgs, and start cutting to get the fat off. Will the TRT dosing keep me from losing the muscle I have gained? This was my first cycle ever, so I really hope I don't lose much of the muscle gains!

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    worse mistake you can do is to cut right after a bulking cycle. You will lose all your gains. Just go back to 100mg but keep eating high protein, make sure you get lots of good quality calories. You can cut later down the road. Maintainance cals should work maybe 100-200 over maintanance you won't gain any fat.
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    100mg of Test C, minus ester weight provides about 70mg of testosterone. Thats around natural production of a young healthy male.

    Bear in mind cruise dosage is usually 200-250mg/week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannie View Post
    100mg of Test C, minus ester weight provides about 70mg of testosterone. Thats around natural production of a young healthy male.

    Bear in mind cruise dosage is usually 200-250mg/week.

    That wasn't his question. His question was will he lose weight at 100mg a week. The answer is he will not lose muscle provided he keeps his calories (quality cals, high protein) high

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    Quote Originally Posted by BP2000 View Post
    worse mistake you can do is to cut right after a bulking cycle. You will lose all your gains. Just go back to 100mg but keep eating high protein, make sure you get lots of good quality calories. You can cut later down the road. Maintainance cals should work maybe 100-200 over maintanance you won't gain any fat.

    Thanks dude! I did not know that cutting right after would cause me to lose my gains. I will follow your advice, and keep eating high protein and stay at maintenance on my calories.

    How long should I wait to start cutting? Summer is coming quick, and I would like to cut so I see my gains this summer.

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    I think the main reason for lose of gains is because of the drop in ir natural test. I am sure if ur supplementing with test u shoukd be fin with a good diet and staying on the weights .
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    Yeah, I'm definitely going stay with the weights! I just don't want to lose the gains I have made. But how long should I wait to start cutting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    Yeah, I'm definitely going stay with the weights! I just don't want to lose the gains I have made. But how long should I wait to start cutting?

    gain on blast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    gain on blast

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    x2 just cruise and keep your cals at maintenance , if you do cut do it veryy slowly and wait for your next cycle to do it for real

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    Will 100mgs of Test Cyp a week keep me from losing muscle?

    I made a similar post recently. I'm also on TRT, 100 mg a week, but I plan to run twice that on my cruise except the week I need to go in for testing. Maybe go with a slightly higher dose on your cruise? 100 mg should put your test level around 400-500 ng/DL. 150 mg will put you closer to 700-800 ng and 200 mg should put you right around 1,000 ng which is at the upper range. Of course only do the higher dose when you're not tested so you don't put up red flags with your dr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rippedgolfer View Post
    I made a similar post recently. I'm also on TRT, 100 mg a week, but I plan to run twice that on my cruise except the week I need to go in for testing. Maybe go with a slightly higher dose on your cruise? 100 mg should put your test level around 400-500 ng/DL. 150 mg will put you closer to 700-800 ng and 200 mg should put you right around 1,000 ng which is at the upper range. Of course only do the higher dose when you're not tested so you don't put up red flags with your dr.
    I will try cruising with 150mgs a week. I don't go back to my doc for about 2 months, so I'm not to worried about my test levels being a little high right now.

    But thanks for the advice everyone, as I said this was my first cycle. And I almost can't believe the gains I've made in size and strength, so I want to do whatever I can to keep it.

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    Not to hijack, but I am on a similar TRT dose. 38 yrs old. I finally got the Doc to prescribe some injectable Cyp. I have been on the shots for several months now and will be going in for another round of bloodwork to check levels soons. I expect the Doc will leave me at the current dose because he is not very "educated" on this based on his statements and how long it has taken to get to this point, even with low levels. Just curious how long it would take for the levels to return to "normal" prescribed TRT levels if additional test was added, say upping to 250mg a week as posted above, versus the prescribed 200mg every two weeks? In other words, would two weeks at the prescribed trt dose prior to bloodwork be enough, or would it take longer?

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    Instead of doing 200mgs every 2 weeks, I would do 100mgs a week. That will keep your T level from going up and down so much. As for your question, I don't know for everyone but it took about 4 weeks for my T level to go up to within normal range. At 100mgs a week my level stays around 550.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevyman View Post
    Not to hijack, but I am on a similar TRT dose. 38 yrs old. I finally got the Doc to prescribe some injectable Cyp. I have been on the shots for several months now and will be going in for another round of bloodwork to check levels soons. I expect the Doc will leave me at the current dose because he is not very "educated" on this based on his statements and how long it has taken to get to this point, even with low levels. Just curious how long it would take for the levels to return to "normal" prescribed TRT levels if additional test was added, say upping to 250mg a week as posted above, versus the prescribed 200mg every two weeks? In other words, would two weeks at the prescribed trt dose prior to bloodwork be enough, or would it take longer?
    If your injecting 200mg every 2 weeks your on a roller coaster ride hormone wise anyway...adding 50mg's to it isn't gonna make much difference...

    Inject 50mg on Monday and Thursday of each week...I bet you get a whole lot more out of that 200mg..
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    I agree with s2h, he is right, 200mgs per week will have many benefits. your test levels are high and stable at that dose. muscle retention is much greater! Not to overlook, your overall wellness and total feeling of well being is that of a 20something healthy male, assuming you have no health concerns. Take LIV52DS and keep tabs your BP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    If your injecting 200mg every 2 weeks your on a roller coaster ride hormone wise anyway...adding 50mg's to it isn't gonna make much difference...

    Inject 50mg on Monday and Thursday of each week...I bet you get a whole lot more out of that 200mg..
    Even with Cyp being a longer acting ester, you think doing 50mgs x2 a week would keep T level more consistent? And do you think that would raise my total level higher than the 550 it's been at just doing once a week?

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    I misread, I thought s2h recommended 200mgs per week. Stable test levels benefits still apply at the lower dose, obviously just not the same benefits as 200mgs per week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    Hey everyone! This is my last week of a 10 week bulking cycle. I have been using 500mgs of test cyp a week. I have made some good gains, 18lbs in total.
    Now I know some of that is water weight and fat. But what I am wondering is, I am on TRT through my Doc. I am supposed to be doing 100mgs a week. So when I go back to just the 100mgs, and start cutting to get the fat off. Will the TRT dosing keep me from losing the muscle I have gained? This was my first cycle ever, so I really hope I don't lose much of the muscle gains!
    100mg a week will allow you to keep what you've gained.

    DO NOT LET ME REPEAT THIS, DO NOT START CUTTING AT ALL RIGHT NOW UNLESS YOU WANT TO LOSE YOUR ADDED SIZE.

    The problem becomes you're making these radical shifts in bodyweight and your body needs time to adjust to the new weight. I would hold off on any cutting until you're ready to get peeled.

    If you want to lose some of the fat just adjust your diet and keep cardio to 30 mis at a low intensity.

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    unless youre producing next to zero natural test. Eat maintainence but remember to account for training and daily activity

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    Being on a trt dose, i wouldn't worry much. Just go at it in the frame of mind of "cutting natty"
    The big losses post cycle are usually due to the drop in test levels that are below normal physiological levels. Going from cycle--->normal you don't have that much to worry about. just keep protein high and cals high enough for your lbm

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    Even with Cyp being a longer acting ester, you think doing 50mgs x2 a week would keep T level more consistent? And do you think that would raise my total level higher than the 550 it's been at just doing once a week?
    Are you taking HCG? I know lots of guys that do 50mg twice a week and HCG twice a week around 250-400iu's and there test level stays around 900 day of shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BP2000 View Post
    Are you taking HCG? I know lots of guys that do 50mg twice a week and HCG twice a week around 250-400iu's and there test level stays around 900 day of shot.
    No my Dr. says I don't need HCG. She says the dose I'm on doesn't require me taking HCG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    No my Dr. says I don't need HCG. She says the dose I'm on doesn't require me taking HCG.
    is she blond? j/k yeah most docs don't know jack shit about trt. You could always source your own hcg and take 250iu 2x per week. You could add it and see how you feel. Or if not just cruise at 150-160mg of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XYZ View Post
    100mg a week will allow you to keep what you've gained.

    DO NOT LET ME REPEAT THIS, DO NOT START CUTTING AT ALL RIGHT NOW UNLESS YOU WANT TO LOSE YOUR ADDED SIZE.

    The problem becomes you're making these radical shifts in bodyweight and your body needs time to adjust to the new weight. I would hold off on any cutting until you're ready to get peeled.

    If you want to lose some of the fat just adjust your diet and keep cardio to 30 mis at a low intensity.
    this of course isn't true for all individuals.. especially as they become bigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    Hey everyone! This is my last week of a 10 week bulking cycle. I have been using 500mgs of test cyp a week. I have made some good gains, 18lbs in total.
    Now I know some of that is water weight and fat. But what I am wondering is, I am on TRT through my Doc. I am supposed to be doing 100mgs a week. So when I go back to just the 100mgs, and start cutting to get the fat off. Will the TRT dosing keep me from losing the muscle I have gained? This was my first cycle ever, so I really hope I don't lose much of the muscle gains!
    when back on hrt it would be like any other person with normal test levels, you can lost muscle or not, depends on DIET. dont cut to hard and keep protein intake high to try limit muscle loss. your sure to lose some water in muscle. 18lb maybe keep 12-15lb and be happy. i cant say though, there are a few factors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    No my Dr. says I don't need HCG. She says the dose I'm on doesn't require me taking HCG.
    no need for HCG with hrt in my op, unless you CARE about nut size. i know i dont


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    Quote Originally Posted by blergs. View Post
    when back on hrt it would be like any other person with normal test levels, you can lost muscle or not, depends on DIET. dont cut to hard and keep protein intake high to try limit muscle loss. your sure to lose some water in muscle. 18lb maybe keep 12-15lb and be happy. i cant say though, there are a few factors.
    It's been close to a month since I finished my cycle and I've only lost 3lbs! But I've been eating at maintenance and doing 30min of cardio 3x week. I've also had a small loss of strength. But overall I'm very happy with my gains. I'm thinking in that 10 weeks I gained a good 11-12lbs of lbm. I think that's awesome for my first cycle. But thanks for the advice everyone! Otherwise, I would've went strait to cutting and lost everything.

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    Bump up to 200 or 250 and you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike03 View Post
    Even with Cyp being a longer acting ester, you think doing 50mgs x2 a week would keep T level more consistent? And do you think that would raise my total level higher than the 550 it's been at just doing once a week?
    I have guinea pigged myself thru allot of BW and different doses and schedules...this works the best with cyp...levels will stay level and it gives you a stable balance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFO3 View Post
    I misread, I thought s2h recommended 200mgs per week. Stable test levels benefits still apply at the lower dose, obviously just not the same benefits as 200mgs per week.
    Ya he is scripted 200mg every 2 weeks...still splitting it 50mg x2 we is better then 200mg every 2 weeks....I would feel like death about 10-12 days into that..
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