my next cutting cycle help...14 week test prop/npp/proviron no hcg...

**arnoldino 82** · 03-22-2013, 01:54 AM

hallo bro...
Looking for advice on my next cycle which will begin the month of April..
My stats are:
height 178cm,
weight: 190lbs
bf: 15 % ..
I intend to arrive to bf 10% at the end of the cycle ...
The cycle will be compound:
test prop: 600mg per week x 14 weeks
npp: 400mg per week x 10 weeks
proviron: 75mg daily
adex: 0.5 MG per day
dostiplex axio labs: 0.5 mg E3D

PCT:
clomid: Day 1: 300mg
day 2-3: 200mg day
4-15: 100mg day
16-32: 50mg

you can perform this cycle without HCG?
Do you have other tips for the setting of the cycle?
My diet will be 2500 kcal (200g carbohydrates 350g proteins 120g fat)

**arnoldino 82** · 03-22-2013, 04:35 PM

up....

**the_predator** · 03-22-2013, 04:51 PM

Have fun with 14 weeks worth of short ester injections at ED or even EOD. I'm thinking pin cushion but to each his own.

**arnoldino 82** · 03-22-2013, 05:00 PM

Bro..I have already done my second cycle of 12 weeks with test propionate injections with EOD and i have found it since the oil which i used i do not cause any pip.. ;-)

**DaBeast25** · 03-22-2013, 05:01 PM

just an FYI...
200g carbohydrates 350g proteins 120g fat is 3280kcals not 2500kcal

Personally I'd run Deca and Test Enth with a Test P/NPP kickstart, then probably run Test P on the back end as well
I'd also run HCG

**arnoldino 82** · 03-22-2013, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by DaBeast25

just an FYI...
200g carbohydrates 350g proteins 120g fat is 3280kcals not 2500kcal

Personally I'd run Deca and Test Enth with a Test P/NPP kickstart, then probably run Test P on the back end as well
I'd also run HCG

I'll revise my diet then

... HCG i remains difficult for its preservation in the fridge ... test and deca give me too much swelling

and between the two types of tests i am better with propionate also for 14 weeks ... you think then that prop npp is not appropriate?

**DaBeast25** · 03-22-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by arnoldino 82

I'll revise my diet then

... HCG i remains difficult for its preservation in the fridge ... test and deca give me too much swelling

and between the two types of tests i am better with propionate also for 14 weeks ... you think then that prop npp is not appropriate?

I often prefer short-acting compounds but 14 weeks is just a long time to pin eod. There are a lot of guys with more experience than me, but from a science standpoint I see no difference between Deca and NPP other than how fast it's released(same for Test Enth vs. Prop)...with the same compound I would expect the same sides although most bro-science says otherwise.

**arnoldino 82** · 03-23-2013, 01:18 AM

It seems that some of the sides are caused by ester type of compound ... for example from what I understood from different descriptions we can say that enanthate causes greater retention of liquids and same thing we can confirm between deca and NPP. ..

**arnoldino 82** · 03-24-2013, 08:31 AM

**RockxHard** · 03-26-2013, 12:54 AM

Personally, I think that unless you're doing a blast/cruise, or are already on TRT (and even then, if you want to have kids someday) you should do yourself a favor and obtain some HCG.

**arnoldino 82** · 03-26-2013, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by RockxHard

Personally, I think that unless you're doing a blast/cruise, or are already on TRT (and even then, if you want to have kids someday) you should do yourself a favor and obtain some HCG.

no hcg = no kids ??

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