cycling off

aceman · 06-10-2003, 08:40 PM

I am taking 400mg of cyp per week for a 10 week period, not a real high dosage. I get it through a doctor and at the end of the cycle he has me cycle off for 4 weeks. I am in my early 40's so my levels are already lower. Does the 4 weeks seem alittle short for cycling off and does that give my receptors enough time to clear out? Should I even worry about that at the dosages I am taking?

**dg806** · 06-10-2003, 08:50 PM

4 weeks sound a little short to me after 10 weeks on!

aceman · 06-10-2003, 08:56 PM

Yeah thats what I was wondering, but maybe age and my normal levels come into to play? I hope the doctor knows what he is talking about. I have to take blood tests at the end of the 4 weeks and they all look pretty good.

**dg806** · 06-10-2003, 08:58 PM

After 10 weeks on though, What ever your natural level is will be supressed even further! But that is why he is a Doc.

aceman · 06-10-2003, 09:01 PM

Actually my levels are not a whole lot lower than they normally are, he also has me go on nolvadex at the end of a cycle. About 2 weeks after my last cyp inj. Take inj. of that for 10 days.

**dg806** · 06-10-2003, 09:12 PM

Yep pretty standard! Maybe he will wait to see you bloodwork!

aceman · 06-10-2003, 09:23 PM

Have had my blood work done that way for about a year and a half and always seem to run about the same. Liver runs slightly higher than normal but they say that is normal for being on cyp and that they do not worry about it unless it gets real high. They say that being as it is a natural hormone that there is not as big of a worry if it runs a little high.

**Mudge** · 06-10-2003, 09:23 PM

Yep for most folks 4 weeks is very very short. Normally whats done is 2 weeks to let blood levels come down, 2-4 weeks of clomid therapy (some use nolvadex + clomid, some use HCG during cycle also), and then 10 weeks would begin of recouperation. Still yet others count that whole 14-16 week as the cycle and use that as thier time on = time off schedule, making 2 cycles a year about all that can be done.

To really know what your levels are you would have a blood test before to compare to, and almost everyone that I do find that has had thier post cycle blood test done are supprised at how low thier natural test is, and sometimes cholesterol levels, blood cell counts red/white, liver values etc can be out of whack depending.

Your test levels should still be 300 if not more I'd say, what does it look like?

aceman · 06-10-2003, 09:27 PM

Thats where it ran on my last test---------336.
Actually my normal levels before I started taking injs. was at 260, so my levels were pretty low originally. Had alot of health problems being that low for many years before starting cyp.

**Mudge** · 06-10-2003, 09:45 PM

Wow, thats pretty supprising. If the whole picture looks good, I'm sure we'd be curious your post cycle details.

aceman · 06-11-2003, 12:26 AM

Define details------------what would you like to know.

**Mudge** · 06-11-2003, 12:45 AM

Everything

Its nice to see before/after if possible, but I do paruse blood test info when I run into it. What exactly was your post cycle regimen though? I assume your doc sent stuff home with you, since daily administration would have been a pain for you and him.

crackerjack414 · 06-11-2003, 08:37 PM

did your doc use hcg? I know an hrt doc who does that with some of his "juicer" clients

aceman · 06-11-2003, 08:45 PM

Yeah thats what I take at the end of the time I am cycling off. Mudge I do all my injections by myself. All they do is fill my prescriptions and order and monitor my blood tests. Its a great deal because they will pretty much let me try anything I want as long as my body will handle it.

**Mudge** · 06-11-2003, 10:13 PM

I know one other person on HRT and he is limited in how much he can buy, but he can administer it himself also. So he would save up some stuff for awhile for a cycle kind of like you did, otherwise he'd probably be on 200mg every 2 weeks.

aceman · 06-12-2003, 01:20 AM

Actually I do not have to save up they will let order when and so far as much as I would like but, they will only ship me a certain number of 10 mil vials in shipment. They will also let me order Deca and Anavar if I like. Price isn't to unreal if I order a certain amount in advance 100.00 per 10 mil vial.

06-10-2003, 08:40 PM	#1
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	cycling off I am taking 400mg of cyp per week for a 10 week period, not a real high dosage. I get it through a doctor and at the end of the cycle he has me cycle off for 4 weeks. I am in my early 40's so my levels are already lower. Does the 4 weeks seem alittle short for cycling off and does that give my receptors enough time to clear out? Should I even worry about that at the dosages I am taking?

06-10-2003, 08:50 PM	#2
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	4 weeks sound a little short to me after 10 weeks on! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

06-10-2003, 08:56 PM	#3
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	reply Yeah thats what I was wondering, but maybe age and my normal levels come into to play? I hope the doctor knows what he is talking about. I have to take blood tests at the end of the 4 weeks and they all look pretty good.

06-10-2003, 08:58 PM	#4
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	After 10 weeks on though, What ever your natural level is will be supressed even further! But that is why he is a Doc. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

06-10-2003, 09:01 PM	#5
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	levels Actually my levels are not a whole lot lower than they normally are, he also has me go on nolvadex at the end of a cycle. About 2 weeks after my last cyp inj. Take inj. of that for 10 days.

06-10-2003, 09:12 PM	#6
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Yep pretty standard! Maybe he will wait to see you bloodwork! 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

06-10-2003, 09:23 PM	#7
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	bloodwork Have had my blood work done that way for about a year and a half and always seem to run about the same. Liver runs slightly higher than normal but they say that is normal for being on cyp and that they do not worry about it unless it gets real high. They say that being as it is a natural hormone that there is not as big of a worry if it runs a little high.

06-10-2003, 09:23 PM	#8
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Yep for most folks 4 weeks is very very short. Normally whats done is 2 weeks to let blood levels come down, 2-4 weeks of clomid therapy (some use nolvadex + clomid, some use HCG during cycle also), and then 10 weeks would begin of recouperation. Still yet others count that whole 14-16 week as the cycle and use that as thier time on = time off schedule, making 2 cycles a year about all that can be done. To really know what your levels are you would have a blood test before to compare to, and almost everyone that I do find that has had thier post cycle blood test done are supprised at how low thier natural test is, and sometimes cholesterol levels, blood cell counts red/white, liver values etc can be out of whack depending. Your test levels should still be 300 if not more I'd say, what does it look like? Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

06-10-2003, 09:27 PM	#9
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	reply Thats where it ran on my last test---------336. Actually my normal levels before I started taking injs. was at 260, so my levels were pretty low originally. Had alot of health problems being that low for many years before starting cyp.

06-10-2003, 09:45 PM	#10
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Wow, thats pretty supprising. If the whole picture looks good, I'm sure we'd be curious your post cycle details. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

06-11-2003, 12:26 AM	#11
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	details Define details------------what would you like to know.

06-11-2003, 12:45 AM	#12
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Everything Its nice to see before/after if possible, but I do paruse blood test info when I run into it. What exactly was your post cycle regimen though? I assume your doc sent stuff home with you, since daily administration would have been a pain for you and him. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

06-11-2003, 08:37 PM	#13
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	did your doc use hcg? I know an hrt doc who does that with some of his "juicer" clients

06-11-2003, 08:45 PM	#14
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	HCG Yeah thats what I take at the end of the time I am cycling off. Mudge I do all my injections by myself. All they do is fill my prescriptions and order and monitor my blood tests. Its a great deal because they will pretty much let me try anything I want as long as my body will handle it. Last edited by aceman : 06-11-2003 at 09:03 PM.

06-11-2003, 10:13 PM	#15
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	I know one other person on HRT and he is limited in how much he can buy, but he can administer it himself also. So he would save up some stuff for awhile for a cycle kind of like you did, otherwise he'd probably be on 200mg every 2 weeks. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

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06-12-2003, 01:20 AM	#16
aceman Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 88	no saving Actually I do not have to save up they will let order when and so far as much as I would like but, they will only ship me a certain number of 10 mil vials in shipment. They will also let me order Deca and Anavar if I like. Price isn't to unreal if I order a certain amount in advance 100.00 per 10 mil vial.