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Pizza the Hut
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Clen FAQ
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Clenbuterol FAQ: Everything you need to know about Clen I wrote this because of all the confusion that surrounds this drug. Enjoy. What is Clenbuterol? Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours. Dosing and Cycling Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks. Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees. DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective. As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time. Side effects NAUSEA NERVOUSNESS DIZZINESS DROWSINESS DRY MOUTH FACIAL FLUSHING HEADACHE HEARTBURN INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE INCREASED SWEATING INSOMNIA LIGHTHEADEDNESS MUSCLE CRAMPS TREMORS VOMITING CHEST PAIN The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure. Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with GNC potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache. You may need to take double the recommended dose. Common Uses Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle. Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen. Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well. Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case. Precautions: Is Clen for you? The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine. What else do I need to know? Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use. A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Example of a first cycle: Day1: 20mcg Day2: 40mcg Day3: 60mcg Day4: 80mcg Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable) Day6-Day12: 100mcg Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually) Day14: 60mcg Day15: off Day16: off Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack Example of a second cycle: Day1: 60mcg Day2: 80mcg Day3: 80mcg Day4: 100mcg Day5: 100mcg Day6-Day12: 120mcg Day13: 100mcg Day14: 80mcg Day15: off Day16: off Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day. All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results. That about covers everything. |
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Pizza the Hut
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I guess I'm getting good at copy and pasting huh?
Andy13 is fairly well known... |
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Yeah, thanks for the information Mudge.....that being said, I have two bottles of the LiquiClen that I won here for the May contest. Already taking a thermo, and really liking it, I really don't think I'll use it....does anyone want them?
I will be happy to mail it to you. Thanks again Mudge |
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hey i would love some of that please if you could help me out i have been after some for so long but cant seem to get hold of any, if u could email me at rudeboystoner@hotmail.com and we can talk about getting it arranged that would be awesome, i would appreciate it so much thanks xx |
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UNLEASH THE BEAST
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So is there any PCT for using Clen?
If run with T3, would you cycle the T3 every 2 weeks as well with the Clen? |
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...
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Gatekepper
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I had no problems using prop/tren/t3/clen at the same time. Lost fat and kept or gained strength any on every exercise.
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Is clen scheduled in the US?
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can clen be combined with phenogen or some other suppl of that nature for better results?
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Hello, what is the recommended dosage for a first time user of liquiclen? My bottle contains 200mcg/ml.
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Hi, thank you for your reply. I workout 5 days a week and run 3-4 x per week 6-8 miles. Don't mean to question your response, but i'm curiious as to why you say 0 clen? I've heard so many different things and not really sure which direction i should go.
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I'm in the gym 5 days a week and run 3-4 days a week approx 8 miles. I am working on improving my eating habits. Its not that i eat bad things, but lack of. I'm now eating small meals 3-4 times per day vs 1 meal. I know that is one of my major issues and have noticed a big difference since i made the change. I'm open for any diet or workout plan you may suggest." It sounds like your diet still has issues (change eating 3-4 times a day to 5-6 for starters) And it sounds like you may be overtraining. Basically overall, I just didn't get the impression that you had done enough research and experience in diet and exercising to even think of taking a drug. |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Your the Man Mudge! Great overview
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"A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at" - Bruce Lee
Current stats: Age 22 (Apr 10 06):Weight: 205-208 | Bench: 285 x 1 / 225 x 8 | B.F. 9% Gettin ready to cut
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