test cyp vs ethan

QuadJr · 08-02-2003, 07:22 PM

I can get either through a doctor friend, but ethen is twice the price of cypionate. Are they similar enough with results that cyp will work fine? Or is ethan really worth twice the price?

Also, may have access to Dbol...and I think most tend to add it in for the first 4-5weeks. Is this added mainly due to the fact that test take up to 3-4 weeks to kick in, or does the Dbol in the first half or so of the cycle have other benefits as well?

(31, 5'10" 190, 46/32/16.5, will be my first cycle...thats why I miay go with test only...can get post cycle stuff thru the doc too, but its costs a little too.)

**Mudge** · 08-02-2003, 07:58 PM

Get cyp then, not a big difference. Enan 10 day half life, cyp 12.5 day, very slightly different in terms of true test mg per mg.

Dbol has other benefits but it is faster acting yes. Spread your dose across the day in 4 hour increments.

BUSTINOUT · 08-04-2003, 12:14 PM

Will your Dr. be my friend too?

Better yet, do you have a pharmacist friend? lol

QuadJr · 08-04-2003, 01:23 PM

Sure, he can be your buddy....but, through pharmacies, according to him and his manuals and research,etc, docs can only write scripts for test eth or cyp....not like in the 80's, when they could write you one for most of it.

BUSTINOUT · 08-16-2003, 08:16 PM

Crap, back in the eighties I just walked across and got my own. lol

gr81 · 08-16-2003, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuadJr
I can get either through a doctor friend, but ethen is twice the price of cypionate. Are they similar enough with results that cyp will work fine? Or is ethan really worth twice the price?

(31, 5'10" 190, 46/32/16.5, will be my first cycle...thats why I miay go with test only...can get post cycle stuff thru the doc too, but its costs a little too.)

I would go with the cyp anyways, especially if it is cheaper. Just b/c it is your first cycle, that doesn't mean that you should go only with the test, I would throw in an anabolic with it, if you can get it then no reason not to.

QuadJr · 08-17-2003, 07:35 PM

Thinking about adding dbol....for the first 3-5 weeks....I think I have a source....

What do you think of
1-10 test cyp 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 30mg a day, taken 10 mg per dose

Good 1st cycle?

gr81 · 08-17-2003, 08:21 PM

I am telling you man, I would add an anabolic in there with the test. Test alone can be hard on the joints and such, adding an anabolic like EQ would help with that. There are other reasons besides that to add something else in with the test. Also I would bump up the doses of everything, especially the d-bol. 10 mgs ain't shit, get up to 20-25 at least. I would bump the test up to 700-800 mgs/wk as well. There is really no benefit for your body to start off with a lower test dose and work up.

oaktownboy · 08-17-2003, 08:25 PM

hook me up with your doctor dawg

**Mudge** · 08-17-2003, 09:04 PM

Test is anabolic.

gr81 · 08-17-2003, 09:24 PM

right, you know what I mean mudge. I mean a less androgenic drug to add in. I know that no drug is strickly one or the other. Don't you think it would be beneficial for him to add something like that in there?

**Mudge** · 08-17-2003, 10:38 PM

Only thing I know about test being hard on the joints is thanks to the gains in strength, as far as adding something sure its always nice to stack. For a first timer cycle I dont think its so important, but 2/3 different things together, sure. I know tren is not recommended for first timers but it is pretty nice stuff.

08-02-2003, 07:22 PM	#1
QuadJr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3	test cyp vs ethan BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I can get either through a doctor friend, but ethen is twice the price of cypionate. Are they similar enough with results that cyp will work fine? Or is ethan really worth twice the price? Also, may have access to Dbol...and I think most tend to add it in for the first 4-5weeks. Is this added mainly due to the fact that test take up to 3-4 weeks to kick in, or does the Dbol in the first half or so of the cycle have other benefits as well? (31, 5'10" 190, 46/32/16.5, will be my first cycle...thats why I miay go with test only...can get post cycle stuff thru the doc too, but its costs a little too.)

08-02-2003, 07:58 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Get cyp then, not a big difference. Enan 10 day half life, cyp 12.5 day, very slightly different in terms of true test mg per mg. Dbol has other benefits but it is faster acting yes. Spread your dose across the day in 4 hour increments.
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08-17-2003, 07:35 PM	#7
QuadJr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3	I am thinking about Thinking about adding dbol....for the first 3-5 weeks....I think I have a source.... What do you think of 1-10 test cyp 500mg/week 1-4 dbol 30mg a day, taken 10 mg per dose Good 1st cycle?

08-17-2003, 08:21 PM	#8
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	I am telling you man, I would add an anabolic in there with the test. Test alone can be hard on the joints and such, adding an anabolic like EQ would help with that. There are other reasons besides that to add something else in with the test. Also I would bump up the doses of everything, especially the d-bol. 10 mgs ain't shit, get up to 20-25 at least. I would bump the test up to 700-800 mgs/wk as well. There is really no benefit for your body to start off with a lower test dose and work up.
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08-17-2003, 08:25 PM	#9
oaktownboy DEFINITION OF R@B Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,375	hook me up with your doctor dawg
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08-04-2003, 12:14 PM	#3
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,408	Will your Dr. be my friend too? Better yet, do you have a pharmacist friend? lol

08-04-2003, 01:23 PM	#4
QuadJr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3	Sure, he can be your buddy....but, through pharmacies, according to him and his manuals and research,etc, docs can only write scripts for test eth or cyp....not like in the 80's, when they could write you one for most of it.

08-16-2003, 08:16 PM	#5
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,408	Crap, back in the eighties I just walked across and got my own. lol

08-17-2003, 09:04 PM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Test is anabolic.
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08-17-2003, 09:24 PM	#11
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	right, you know what I mean mudge. I mean a less androgenic drug to add in. I know that no drug is strickly one or the other. Don't you think it would be beneficial for him to add something like that in there?
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08-17-2003, 10:38 PM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Only thing I know about test being hard on the joints is thanks to the gains in strength, as far as adding something sure its always nice to stack. For a first timer cycle I dont think its so important, but 2/3 different things together, sure. I know tren is not recommended for first timers but it is pretty nice stuff.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

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