QuadJr

I can get either through a doctor friend, but ethen is twice the price of cypionate. Are they similar enough with results that cyp will work fine? Or is ethan really worth twice the price?

Also, may have access to Dbol...and I think most tend to add it in for the first 4-5weeks. Is this added mainly due to the fact that test take up to 3-4 weeks to kick in, or does the Dbol in the first half or so of the cycle have other benefits as well?

(31, 5'10" 190, 46/32/16.5, will be my first cycle...thats why I miay go with test only...can get post cycle stuff thru the doc too, but its costs a little too.)

Mudge

Get cyp then, not a big difference. Enan 10 day half life, cyp 12.5 day, very slightly different in terms of true test mg per mg.

Dbol has other benefits but it is faster acting yes. Spread your dose across the day in 4 hour increments.

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BUSTINOUT

Will your Dr. be my friend too? Better yet, do you have a pharmacist friend? lol

QuadJr

Sure, he can be your buddy....but, through pharmacies, according to him and his manuals and research,etc, docs can only write scripts for test eth or cyp....not like in the 80's, when they could write you one for most of it.

BUSTINOUT

Crap, back in the eighties I just walked across and got my own. lol

gr81

I would go with the cyp anyways, especially if it is cheaper. Just b/c it is your first cycle, that doesn't mean that you should go only with the test, I would throw in an anabolic with it, if you can get it then no reason not to.

QuadJr

Thinking about adding dbol....for the first 3-5 weeks....I think I have a source....

What do you think of
1-10 test cyp 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 30mg a day, taken 10 mg per dose

Good 1st cycle?

gr81

I am telling you man, I would add an anabolic in there with the test. Test alone can be hard on the joints and such, adding an anabolic like EQ would help with that. There are other reasons besides that to add something else in with the test. Also I would bump up the doses of everything, especially the d-bol. 10 mgs ain't shit, get up to 20-25 at least. I would bump the test up to 700-800 mgs/wk as well. There is really no benefit for your body to start off with a lower test dose and work up.

oaktownboy

hook me up with your doctor dawg

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Mudge

Test is anabolic.

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gr81

right, you know what I mean mudge. I mean a less androgenic drug to add in. I know that no drug is strickly one or the other. Don't you think it would be beneficial for him to add something like that in there?

Mudge

Only thing I know about test being hard on the joints is thanks to the gains in strength, as far as adding something sure its always nice to stack. For a first timer cycle I dont think its so important, but 2/3 different things together, sure. I know tren is not recommended for first timers but it is pretty nice stuff.

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