Been on test for about a year

Freedomlover45 · 08-03-2003, 11:08 AM

I've been on test for about a year now and am wondering if I should take a break. Most of the guys at the gym that I've spoke with say that continual low doses are not a problem. My doses have been 2ccs of cyp weekly and most recently I've been on Sten, two 2cc vials a week. I can't seem to get anyone to agree on whats right, anything would help.

Fade · 08-03-2003, 11:30 AM

You should do 6 to 8 weeks cycles then take a 1-2 month break. This way you give your nuts a chance to be used.

**Mudge** · 08-03-2003, 01:23 PM

Low doses as in 100mg a week is not too much of a problem. 2ccs doesn't tell us much of anything, but I am sensing that you are on for way too long if we are talking 200-400mg.

Test suppression is going to be pretty big. I can point out blood tests from someone doing a shorter cycle than this, who had an estrogen level of around 240, and a natural test level of about 70, at the age of 22 - 10 months after he quite his cycle.

Steroids, get on, get off, recouperate.

Freedomlover45 · 08-03-2003, 01:38 PM

Thanks Mudge. My intake was 200-400mg a week. What do you suggest I do to recoupe Testosterone levels and curb estrogen levels?

**Mudge** · 08-03-2003, 01:46 PM

Arimidex for estrogen, Nolvadex 40-60mg ED, and HCG for 3-4 weeks 500-1000iu ED. For the Arimidex I would say probably .5-1mg ED, as for how long to run it that is not going to be easy, I'd say at least 4 weeks. As for the Nolvadex, it has similar side effects as clomid other than the mood issues, but I'd run that probably for 8-10 weeks.

You may have to go ahead and run 1000iu ED, if you get estrogenic sides then up the Arimidex slightly.

At least it was semi low dose, but if you were bouncing your levels around that wasn't helping you out either, and at least it was 1 year and not 3.

I would definitely ask for advice in as many circles as you travel, and I would definitely get blood work done when you think you are recouperated. If you have not noticed ball shrinkage you are LUCKY, and probably not too too far out in space as far as your levels go.

gr81 · 08-03-2003, 10:13 PM

why in the world would you be on that long with such low doses? How much change in the physique have you seen being so low?

**Mudge** · 08-03-2003, 10:19 PM

I have heard of people doing that with sust and sometimes primo, 250-300 a week for a year. Some people really dont experience alot of shutdown, your nuts will give you SOME clue but a blood test will be much more reliable.

08-03-2003, 11:08 AM	#1
Freedomlover45 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2	Been on test for about a year I've been on test for about a year now and am wondering if I should take a break. Most of the guys at the gym that I've spoke with say that continual low doses are not a problem. My doses have been 2ccs of cyp weekly and most recently I've been on Sten, two 2cc vials a week. I can't seem to get anyone to agree on whats right, anything would help.

08-03-2003, 01:23 PM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	Low doses as in 100mg a week is not too much of a problem. 2ccs doesn't tell us much of anything, but I am sensing that you are on for way too long if we are talking 200-400mg. Test suppression is going to be pretty big. I can point out blood tests from someone doing a shorter cycle than this, who had an estrogen level of around 240, and a natural test level of about 70, at the age of 22 - 10 months after he quite his cycle. Steroids, get on, get off, recouperate. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

08-03-2003, 01:46 PM	#5
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	Arimidex for estrogen, Nolvadex 40-60mg ED, and HCG for 3-4 weeks 500-1000iu ED. For the Arimidex I would say probably .5-1mg ED, as for how long to run it that is not going to be easy, I'd say at least 4 weeks. As for the Nolvadex, it has similar side effects as clomid other than the mood issues, but I'd run that probably for 8-10 weeks. You may have to go ahead and run 1000iu ED, if you get estrogenic sides then up the Arimidex slightly. At least it was semi low dose, but if you were bouncing your levels around that wasn't helping you out either, and at least it was 1 year and not 3. I would definitely ask for advice in as many circles as you travel, and I would definitely get blood work done when you think you are recouperated. If you have not noticed ball shrinkage you are LUCKY, and probably not too too far out in space as far as your levels go. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

08-03-2003, 10:19 PM	#7
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	I have heard of people doing that with sust and sometimes primo, 250-300 a week for a year. Some people really dont experience alot of shutdown, your nuts will give you SOME clue but a blood test will be much more reliable. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

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08-03-2003, 11:30 AM	#2
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	You should do 6 to 8 weeks cycles then take a 1-2 month break. This way you give your nuts a chance to be used.

08-03-2003, 01:38 PM	#4
Freedomlover45 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2	Thanks Mudge. My intake was 200-400mg a week. What do you suggest I do to recoupe Testosterone levels and curb estrogen levels?

08-03-2003, 10:13 PM	#6
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	why in the world would you be on that long with such low doses? How much change in the physique have you seen being so low?

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