When should I start my cycle?

Siena · 09-02-2003, 11:52 AM

Hi Guys!

Started a cycle of winnie last month but stopped after 2 weeks b/c was experiencing too many negative sides. Managed to get my hands on some anavar last week. My question is how long should I wait before I start it? Do I need to wait for the puffyness and bloating from the w to go away completely? Also this is my first time trying var, any suggestions on how to use it? Thanks!

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 11:57 AM

Anavar is wicked expensive in effective doses, 40-80mg a day. How much were you planning to take daily? I would never even buy the stuff just because of its price, which is kind of a shame its supposed to be good for strength but not really for gaining actual beef.

Siena · 09-02-2003, 12:29 PM

Was told that 10 mg/day (5 am and 5 mid afternoon) is enough for a female. Been trying to research it but can't find too much info. Is that even enough to see results? Trying to lean out right now.

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 12:36 PM

Being a woman is totally different! Without mentioning that I had assumed you were a male. I assume this explains why you had sides on winny, low dose winny doesn't effect most males.

10mg ED should be fine, I would probably suggest 4-6 weeks because I have heard of virilization with 8-10 weekers even at low doses (10mg ED). If your voice deepens or etc these are "permanent" changes according to what I've read, so I would treat these like a prohormone and bank on 4 weeks, maybe 6 if you felt like pushing it.

Siena · 09-02-2003, 12:47 PM

thanks so much! ya i was planning on doing about 4 weeks...do you think i need to wait before I start it?

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 12:49 PM

I would just go ahead and start.

Siena · 09-02-2003, 12:50 PM

will do! thanks for the info!

BUSTINOUT · 09-02-2003, 12:57 PM

throw some clen in there too...if you're up for it.

Siena · 09-02-2003, 03:02 PM

if i can get some i will....hard to find lately!!!

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 03:41 PM

Nearly every liquid company has it if not every one, very easy to find.

BeerHunter · 09-02-2003, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Nearly every liquid company has it if not every one, very easy to find.

i recently got a bottle of liquid clen as a freebie in an order, but I have no idea how to use it in liquid form.........any ideas?

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 04:33 PM

Taper up to 80-100mcg a day, some males go higher but you will have to judge that based on your sides. Most people seem to run it 2 weeks on, 2 off.

LiquidResearch is the only one that I happen to know as far as how much is in each drop, the dropper itself is 1ml, 125mcg per ml, if its some other brand you will have to figure the math.

Quote:

100-140 mcg per day For women 80-100 mcg/day are usually suffi-cient, It is important that the athlete begin by taking only one tablet on the first day and then increasing the dosage by one tablet each of the following days until the desired maximum dosage is reached. The compound is usually taken over a period of 8-10 weeks. Since Clenbuterol is not a hormone compound it has no side effects typical of anabolic steroids. For this reason it is also liked by women. Possible side effects of Clenbuterol include restlessness, palpitations, tremor (involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased per-spiration, insomnia, possible muscle spasms, increased blood pres-sure, and nausea. Note that these side effects are of a temporary nature and usually subside after 8-10 days, despite continuation of the product. In the meantime, Clenbuterol is well distributed on the black market and costs between $0.70 and $1.20 per 0.02 mg tab-let

BeerHunter · 09-02-2003, 04:36 PM

i got it from u-kits.....but they dont list the potency of any of their products

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 04:41 PM

Is this the one that says use a single pump (4ml) for 125kg bodyweight? If so you could use that to make a calculation, although obviously I would rather have techinfo lets you give yourself a headache or some other worse overdosing side.

I have not heard of Ukits specifically though.

BeerHunter · 09-02-2003, 04:47 PM

universal kits (sorry)

BeerHunter · 09-02-2003, 04:53 PM

the dropper is graduated to .8 ml

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 05:05 PM

If the dropper is similar to LR, it should be ~48 drops to = 1ml, you can test it out with water if you like, although its pretty hard to get them absolutely full.

Are you sure this is clenbuterol? I dont see it on the list but they definitely do list potency.

http://www.universalkits.com/researchchems.htm

BeerHunter · 09-02-2003, 05:15 PM

Youre right.........they've changed their site somewhat since i made my last order..........maybe i should PM Mr.Universe himself.
the bottle says "liquid clen,no keto"

BeerHunter · 09-02-2003, 05:43 PM

and i don't see clocaps listed anymore either

**Mudge** · 09-02-2003, 06:07 PM

Your right, its liquid now
Liquid-Clo
75mgs/ml

09-02-2003, 11:52 AM	#1
Siena Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 7	When should I start my cycle? Hi Guys! Started a cycle of winnie last month but stopped after 2 weeks b/c was experiencing too many negative sides. Managed to get my hands on some anavar last week. My question is how long should I wait before I start it? Do I need to wait for the puffyness and bloating from the w to go away completely? Also this is my first time trying var, any suggestions on how to use it? Thanks!
	~Siena

09-02-2003, 12:29 PM	#3
Siena Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 7	Was told that 10 mg/day (5 am and 5 mid afternoon) is enough for a female. Been trying to research it but can't find too much info. Is that even enough to see results? Trying to lean out right now.
	~Siena

09-02-2003, 12:47 PM	#5
Siena Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 7	thanks so much! ya i was planning on doing about 4 weeks...do you think i need to wait before I start it?
	~Siena

09-02-2003, 12:50 PM	#7
Siena Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 7	will do! thanks for the info!
	~Siena

09-02-2003, 03:02 PM	#9
Siena Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 7	if i can get some i will....hard to find lately!!!
	~Siena

09-02-2003, 11:57 AM	#2
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Anavar is wicked expensive in effective doses, 40-80mg a day. How much were you planning to take daily? I would never even buy the stuff just because of its price, which is kind of a shame its supposed to be good for strength but not really for gaining actual beef.

09-02-2003, 12:36 PM	#4
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Being a woman is totally different! Without mentioning that I had assumed you were a male. I assume this explains why you had sides on winny, low dose winny doesn't effect most males. 10mg ED should be fine, I would probably suggest 4-6 weeks because I have heard of virilization with 8-10 weekers even at low doses (10mg ED). If your voice deepens or etc these are "permanent" changes according to what I've read, so I would treat these like a prohormone and bank on 4 weeks, maybe 6 if you felt like pushing it.

09-02-2003, 12:49 PM	#6
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	I would just go ahead and start.

09-02-2003, 12:57 PM	#8
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,418	throw some clen in there too...if you're up for it.

09-02-2003, 03:41 PM	#10
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Nearly every liquid company has it if not every one, very easy to find.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-02-2003, 04:36 PM	#13
BeerHunter legend in my own mind Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: southwestern Va. Posts: 48	i got it from u-kits.....but they dont list the potency of any of their products
	yes......I once killed a beer, just to watch it die.

09-02-2003, 04:41 PM	#14
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Is this the one that says use a single pump (4ml) for 125kg bodyweight? If so you could use that to make a calculation, although obviously I would rather have techinfo lets you give yourself a headache or some other worse overdosing side. I have not heard of Ukits specifically though.

09-02-2003, 04:47 PM	#15
BeerHunter legend in my own mind Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: southwestern Va. Posts: 48	universal kits (sorry)
	yes......I once killed a beer, just to watch it die.

09-02-2003, 04:53 PM	#16
BeerHunter legend in my own mind Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: southwestern Va. Posts: 48	the dropper is graduated to .8 ml
	yes......I once killed a beer, just to watch it die.

09-02-2003, 05:05 PM	#17
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	If the dropper is similar to LR, it should be ~48 drops to = 1ml, you can test it out with water if you like, although its pretty hard to get them absolutely full. Are you sure this is clenbuterol? I dont see it on the list but they definitely do list potency. http://www.universalkits.com/researchchems.htm
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Start My First Cycle in August...	diesel75	Anabolic Zone	4	07-02-2008 01:17 PM
periodized training	TJ Cline	Training	6	03-24-2006 04:59 PM
p/rr/s class presentation?	DeadBolt	Training	22	12-02-2004 10:40 PM
Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know!	Prince	Supplements	15	04-10-2004 12:42 PM
new cycle start date question	cagedthought	Anabolic Zone	10	12-19-2003 04:10 PM

09-02-2003, 05:15 PM	#18
BeerHunter legend in my own mind Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: southwestern Va. Posts: 48	Youre right.........they've changed their site somewhat since i made my last order..........maybe i should PM Mr.Universe himself. the bottle says "liquid clen,no keto"
	yes......I once killed a beer, just to watch it die.

09-02-2003, 05:43 PM	#19
BeerHunter legend in my own mind Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: southwestern Va. Posts: 48	and i don't see clocaps listed anymore either
	yes......I once killed a beer, just to watch it die.

09-02-2003, 06:07 PM	#20
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Your right, its liquid now Liquid-Clo 75mgs/ml
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode