how much should i expect to spend?

kevin · 10-04-2003, 11:38 PM

I'm just currious as to how much i would expect to spend on a first time cycle. I don't know much about AS yet, and don't intend to start any time soon, i'm just currious.

by the way, i'm 20, 6'4'', 210 pounds at 20 percent body fat.

thanks

**Mudge** · 10-05-2003, 01:22 AM

$50-$500 or so depending who, what and where.

I would drop some bodyfat before I started, high bodyfat means high aromitization capability of the body, meaning the drugs you take are going to be happy making boobies.

kevin · 10-05-2003, 07:26 AM

what body fat do you think i should shoot for before i started?

**Mudge** · 10-05-2003, 12:17 PM

If your going to do mild stuff and cut thats fine, if your looking to bulk though I'd get down to 12-14% at least, and still bulk carefully, meaning not jump from 2000 calories to 4000 in one day.

kevin · 10-05-2003, 12:24 PM

hmmmm. seems like i still have a lot to learn. Thanks for all the advice Mudge.

gr81 · 10-05-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kevin
I'm just currious as to how much i would expect to spend on a first time cycle. I don't know much about AS yet, and don't intend to start any time soon, i'm just currious.

by the way, i'm 20, 6'4'', 210 pounds at 20 percent body fat.

thanks

well as soon as you figure out the cost, take that # and triple it and you might get a rough estimate of what you will end up spending. AAS cycles are very financially draining bro, I know several guys that have spent a small (and large) fortune to get where they are now and it ain't all that great. be ware

capinatl · 10-12-2003, 04:44 PM

My first cycle of fina and Nile sust cost me about $700 when I added everything else up with the AAS - like extra protein, flax seed oil, ancilliaries, water, etc.

repoj · 10-13-2003, 12:03 AM

I have found that the food costs the most when it comes to gear. I can get an 8-week cycle of Deca and Test for about 200 bucks from a buddy of mine.,

kevin · 10-13-2003, 11:47 AM

the food and supplements aren't a big deal, i can get those without a problem, i was just wondering what the gear itself cost.

lets say i did try to cut, what would be the best stuff for a first timer with my body type to use.

Sorry to be repetitive, but the only way you learn is by asking questions

BabsieGirl · 10-13-2003, 12:00 PM

What the heck are you all buying that's that darn expensive??? Wholly cow gentlemen.

**Mudge** · 10-13-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by kevin
lets say i did try to cut, what would be the best stuff for a first timer with my body type to use.

If you were to do only one thing I'd start with test enan or cyp 400-500mg, twice a week shots would be best because at the end of a week it will be nearly half strength.

**Mudge** · 10-13-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by BabsieGirl
What the heck are you all buying that's that darn expensive??? Wholly cow gentlemen.

Some people get reamed on pricing, but the more you stack the more $. In general though gear is cheap, its hGH and IGF-1 thats expensive.

BabsieGirl · 10-13-2003, 12:19 PM

I say.

Mudge -- How long have you been working out?

kevin · 10-13-2003, 12:20 PM

so you're saying just test enan or cyp 400-500mg, not both? So i wouldn't be stacking with anything else?

**Mudge** · 10-13-2003, 12:21 PM

Off and on for the last 16 years, but only sporadically serious. Been regular for about the last 2 years now, for the last several months I'm in "pretty serious" mode.

**Mudge** · 10-13-2003, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kevin
so you're saying just test enan or cyp 400-500mg, not both? So i wouldn't be stacking with anything else?

Not both they are both test, test + test is just test, and 1,000mg a week would be ridiculous for a first cycle. There are many other options to go with, fina isn't recommended for a first cycle but I think its great stuff, but you'd have to inject every other day unless you got lucky and found fina enanthate which only a couple underground labs make and no I dont have access to them.

Dbol is another option, very easy to find. I think a first stack should be simple, test + dbol sounds great to me.

10-04-2003, 11:38 PM	#1
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34	how much should i expect to spend? I'm just currious as to how much i would expect to spend on a first time cycle. I don't know much about AS yet, and don't intend to start any time soon, i'm just currious. by the way, i'm 20, 6'4'', 210 pounds at 20 percent body fat. thanks
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10-05-2003, 01:22 AM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	$50-$500 or so depending who, what and where. I would drop some bodyfat before I started, high bodyfat means high aromitization capability of the body, meaning the drugs you take are going to be happy making boobies.
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10-05-2003, 07:26 AM	#3
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34	what body fat do you think i should shoot for before i started?
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10-05-2003, 12:24 PM	#5
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34	hmmmm. seems like i still have a lot to learn. Thanks for all the advice Mudge.
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34

10-13-2003, 12:03 AM	#8
repoj Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 169	I have found that the food costs the most when it comes to gear. I can get an 8-week cycle of Deca and Test for about 200 bucks from a buddy of mine.,
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10-05-2003, 12:17 PM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	If your going to do mild stuff and cut thats fine, if your looking to bulk though I'd get down to 12-14% at least, and still bulk carefully, meaning not jump from 2000 calories to 4000 in one day.

10-12-2003, 04:44 PM	#7
capinatl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MMI Posts: 47	My first cycle of fina and Nile sust cost me about $700 when I added everything else up with the AAS - like extra protein, flax seed oil, ancilliaries, water, etc.

10-13-2003, 11:47 AM	#9
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34	the food and supplements aren't a big deal, i can get those without a problem, i was just wondering what the gear itself cost. lets say i did try to cut, what would be the best stuff for a first timer with my body type to use. Sorry to be repetitive, but the only way you learn is by asking questions
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34

10-13-2003, 12:00 PM	#10
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	What the heck are you all buying that's that darn expensive??? Wholly cow gentlemen.
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10-13-2003, 12:19 PM	#13
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	I say. Mudge -- How long have you been working out?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

10-13-2003, 12:20 PM	#14
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34	so you're saying just test enan or cyp 400-500mg, not both? So i wouldn't be stacking with anything else?
kevin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34

10-13-2003, 12:21 PM	#15
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	Off and on for the last 16 years, but only sporadically serious. Been regular for about the last 2 years now, for the last several months I'm in "pretty serious" mode.

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