Testosterone normal?!?

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 06:07 PM

Wierd.... i went to the doctor... and got my liver tested... my thyroid.. my calcium... and my testosterone checked... its all normal.... Errrr.... im on my 3rd week of sust 600 mg's a week and on my 5th weeks of deca 450 mg's.... Now why is my test normal? i dont get it... please give me some info

**Dale Mabry** · 10-16-2003, 07:01 PM

Deca wouldn't do dick to your test from wut I understand, but maybe your sust is bunk.

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:13 PM

its proline....

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:14 PM

i just started my 3rd week of sust....

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:24 PM

there gear is real good... maybe it hasnt had enough time to start workin?

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 07:29 PM

What is normal dude? Normal can be 3x what another persons is. Its entirely possible you have sucky normal levels, I've seen a white guy 22 years old with about a 260, and yet I see other people with 600+.

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:31 PM

oh.. i actually havent seen the full figures

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 07:32 PM

It would definitely be helpfull, by 3 weeks they should be coming up though, thats about when I saw sust start working end of the 3rd week.

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:36 PM

what did you see? if you dont mind me asking... like how could U tell it was working

gr81 · 10-16-2003, 07:41 PM

you will know, you will start to see some sac shrinkage which is an indicator. maybe some acne and shit like that. After this long you should just be starting to see some strength increase and what not. give it a few more weeks and if you still have to ask, then it is bunk.

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:44 PM

appreciate it. to tell you the trust i have not seen any sack shrinkage i dont think... i noticed their real red...

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:45 PM

truth... i meant... not trust... im a dumbass

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 07:47 PM

Sex drive doubled, and started gaining like mad around the 4th week, I was doing 1/8th inch on my arms daily for about 10 days. You should also see strength gains, for me it was about 10 pounds on the bench per week. You may very well not notice nut shrinkage, I didn't notice any of that my first time round.

No idea why your sack would be red though.

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:49 PM

seems now every time i even try to bench... my collar bone and shoulders feel like there gonna snap.... Worst pain i have had benching... i have to stick to butterfly's now... and machine bench... but still can barely do bench period

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:49 PM

was that sound like to yall

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 07:51 PM

I had shoulder problems till I learned to bench right, see sig if your not filled in on this yet. I practiced for a week with 135.

Also make sure to get UNDER the bar before you bench so you are not putting a huge strain on your shoulders unracking it.

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 07:52 PM

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 07:56 PM

Signature

Just a guy · 10-16-2003, 08:02 PM

well im going to a sport medicine Doctor sometime... maybe the other doc (which knew absolutely NOTHING about roids, He claimed that my sust flu was not sust flu but from smoking laced marijuna lol!) did a diff kind of test check.,... i dunno

**Mudge** · 10-16-2003, 08:32 PM

There is test and free test primarily, but people also look at estrogen levels, the more of a blood panel you look for though it costs more.

www.lef.org has info on blood testing.

crackerjack414 · 10-17-2003, 06:00 PM

heres some signes its working. u have a noticble amount of water retention. your streng should be shooting way up. your gf should be very sick of u coming over 3 times a day.

10-16-2003, 06:07 PM	#1
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	Testosterone normal?!? Wierd.... i went to the doctor... and got my liver tested... my thyroid.. my calcium... and my testosterone checked... its all normal.... Errrr.... im on my 3rd week of sust 600 mg's a week and on my 5th weeks of deca 450 mg's.... Now why is my test normal? i dont get it... please give me some info

10-16-2003, 07:01 PM	#2
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,787 Photos: 10	Deca wouldn't do dick to your test from wut I understand, but maybe your sust is bunk.
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10-16-2003, 07:13 PM	#3
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	its proline....
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:14 PM	#4
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	i just started my 3rd week of sust....
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:24 PM	#5
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	there gear is real good... maybe it hasnt had enough time to start workin?
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:29 PM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	What is normal dude? Normal can be 3x what another persons is. Its entirely possible you have sucky normal levels, I've seen a white guy 22 years old with about a 260, and yet I see other people with 600+.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-16-2003, 07:31 PM	#7
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	oh.. i actually havent seen the full figures
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:32 PM	#8
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	It would definitely be helpfull, by 3 weeks they should be coming up though, thats about when I saw sust start working end of the 3rd week.

10-16-2003, 07:36 PM	#9
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	what did you see? if you dont mind me asking... like how could U tell it was working
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:41 PM	#10
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	you will know, you will start to see some sac shrinkage which is an indicator. maybe some acne and shit like that. After this long you should just be starting to see some strength increase and what not. give it a few more weeks and if you still have to ask, then it is bunk.
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

10-16-2003, 07:44 PM	#11
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	appreciate it. to tell you the trust i have not seen any sack shrinkage i dont think... i noticed their real red...
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:45 PM	#12
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	truth... i meant... not trust... im a dumbass
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:47 PM	#13
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	Sex drive doubled, and started gaining like mad around the 4th week, I was doing 1/8th inch on my arms daily for about 10 days. You should also see strength gains, for me it was about 10 pounds on the bench per week. You may very well not notice nut shrinkage, I didn't notice any of that my first time round. No idea why your sack would be red though.

10-16-2003, 07:49 PM	#14
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	seems now every time i even try to bench... my collar bone and shoulders feel like there gonna snap.... Worst pain i have had benching... i have to stick to butterfly's now... and machine bench... but still can barely do bench period
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:51 PM	#16
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	I had shoulder problems till I learned to bench right, see sig if your not filled in on this yet. I practiced for a week with 135. Also make sure to get UNDER the bar before you bench so you are not putting a huge strain on your shoulders unracking it.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-16-2003, 07:52 PM	#17
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	sig?
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 07:56 PM	#18
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	Signature
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-16-2003, 08:02 PM	#19
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	well im going to a sport medicine Doctor sometime... maybe the other doc (which knew absolutely NOTHING about roids, He claimed that my sust flu was not sust flu but from smoking laced marijuna lol!) did a diff kind of test check.,... i dunno
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

10-16-2003, 08:32 PM	#20
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	There is test and free test primarily, but people also look at estrogen levels, the more of a blood panel you look for though it costs more. www.lef.org has info on blood testing.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-17-2003, 06:00 PM	#21
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	heres some signes its working. u have a noticble amount of water retention. your streng should be shooting way up. your gf should be very sick of u coming over 3 times a day.

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