Need help before first time use.

Michael D · 10-29-2003, 12:49 PM

Hi. I have a friend who has access to a lot of different types of steroids and after using them himself, went from 130 to 195 in 6 months. I was amazed and it has made me want to try some out but I have been looking and can't seem to find the right choice for me.

I am 6'2", 170-175 lbs. I eat all the time and can't seem to gain weight.. Only after working out for several months have I gained a few pounds. I don't want to be HUGE. I would like to weigh around 205-210. My reason for wanting to take roids is for strenght FIRST. The size will come after that. My friend suggested Sustanon. He is by no means an expert and admitted that he abused the ones he was on earlier.

I am looking to put on a decent 20-25 lbs with the best drug for my needs. If any additional info about me or my health is needed, please ask. All suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Michael.

**Mudge** · 10-29-2003, 01:12 PM

First off, you dont gain weight from sticking a pin in your ass, you have to eat it. Write your diet down so you know what you are doing, this is a science, treat it as such.

I would avoid sustanon, stick to one ester IMO, enanthate or cypionate, whichever is cheaper. Shots should ideally be twice a week.

Most juicer bulking cycles consist of 3,500-5,000 calories.

Michael D · 10-30-2003, 01:50 AM

I realize that I will have to take in more calories. I had planned on writing down my average intake per day and then what I needed to intake. I was also planning on eating tons of lean meats and keeping clear of the bad stuff.

Out of curiousity, why stay away from Sustanon? Where can I find more info about the others you mentioned? Are they cheaper than Sustanon?

I haven't sat down and counted calorie for calorie but I know I can pack away at least 4k a day. That is more than what I eat now but it wouldn't be hard to get to that.

Thanks for your help and sorry for all the questions.

**Mudge** · 10-30-2003, 01:55 AM

Sustanon is a "name" that people associate with magic, its just test. Moreover it has prop in it, if you want to inject every other day then just buy prop, it would work faster and get out of the system faster making recouperation a little nicer as well as showing earlier gains.

If you want to avoid fat, scale those calories a little slowly, dont jump from 3k to 5k IMO.

10-29-2003, 12:49 PM	#1
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	Need help before first time use. Hi. I have a friend who has access to a lot of different types of steroids and after using them himself, went from 130 to 195 in 6 months. I was amazed and it has made me want to try some out but I have been looking and can't seem to find the right choice for me. I am 6'2", 170-175 lbs. I eat all the time and can't seem to gain weight.. Only after working out for several months have I gained a few pounds. I don't want to be HUGE. I would like to weigh around 205-210. My reason for wanting to take roids is for strenght FIRST. The size will come after that. My friend suggested Sustanon. He is by no means an expert and admitted that he abused the ones he was on earlier. I am looking to put on a decent 20-25 lbs with the best drug for my needs. If any additional info about me or my health is needed, please ask. All suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael.

10-29-2003, 01:12 PM	#2
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	First off, you dont gain weight from sticking a pin in your ass, you have to eat it. Write your diet down so you know what you are doing, this is a science, treat it as such. I would avoid sustanon, stick to one ester IMO, enanthate or cypionate, whichever is cheaper. Shots should ideally be twice a week. Most juicer bulking cycles consist of 3,500-5,000 calories.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

10-30-2003, 01:55 AM	#4
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,149 Photos: 1	Sustanon is a "name" that people associate with magic, its just test. Moreover it has prop in it, if you want to inject every other day then just buy prop, it would work faster and get out of the system faster making recouperation a little nicer as well as showing earlier gains. If you want to avoid fat, scale those calories a little slowly, dont jump from 3k to 5k IMO.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

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10-30-2003, 01:50 AM	#3
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	I realize that I will have to take in more calories. I had planned on writing down my average intake per day and then what I needed to intake. I was also planning on eating tons of lean meats and keeping clear of the bad stuff. Out of curiousity, why stay away from Sustanon? Where can I find more info about the others you mentioned? Are they cheaper than Sustanon? I haven't sat down and counted calorie for calorie but I know I can pack away at least 4k a day. That is more than what I eat now but it wouldn't be hard to get to that. Thanks for your help and sorry for all the questions.