and my balls have no shrunk at all... only the sack... its just a little tighter than usual
I dont get it... i fuckin stopped... i have not gain any weight or any muscle in like 3 or 4 weeks.. since i have been on cyp i have not gained anything... im so so so confused
and my balls have no shrunk at all... only the sack... its just a little tighter than usual
CUTTING!
Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975


I never noticed nad shrinkage until my last cycle, despite being shut down somewhat you can still produce sperm volume on gear, HRT patients know this very well. Yet some other people get shut down very hard, thats just the genetic gamble for you.
If you aren't getting fatter then you aren't eating enough, if you dont continue to step up your calories you are just going to stagnate eventually. Your free test levels may not be very high anymore either if it is all converting to estrogen.
why would it be converting to estrogen
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Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975


That is what testosterone does in the male body man, aromitization is the only source of estrogen in the male.
gotcha... but why no gains??
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Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975
what is too long of a cycle for TEST
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Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975


Too long? I expect lack of gains from calories and/or lack of free test and high estrogen levels. If you are not still gaining weight you are not eating enough, I do not believe in doing a one time only caloric increase, I would rather increase it through the cycle 500 calories at a time.
Plenty of people have been on test for 6 months to a number of years. If you get your blood work done there is no "too long."
ok.. so just eat more... shit i eat like a horse anyways
CUTTING!
Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975


very unusual to not be gaining on cyp, you should have at least gained 10lbs of water weight.
nothing... im bout to go get some weight gainer i guess... dont make no since at all
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Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975
And its PL so it cant be bunk
CUTTING!
Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975


Us guys with shoddy genetics have to put on some fat sometimes.


maybe you got some fake cyp.


I'd vouch for his stuff, as will plenty others. His stuff was reviewed recently in Muscular Development.
So when do u know to stop?? aint it bad for your body to go past like 12 weeks of test????¨U
CUTTING!
Was 260lbs.
Now 02/09/05 236lbs
Height:5'8
Age: 20
Bench:395
Leg press:975


Explain what is bad exactly, sperm count, testicle mass, or cholesterol? All of these things can be taken care of.
its probably bunk or severely underdosed. I went through the same thing
Originally posted by Just a guy
So when do u know to stop?? aint it bad for your body to go past like 12 weeks of test????¨U
It isn't "bad" to go over 12 weeks, I reccommend it. define bad, you will probably keep more gains IMO runninga longer cycle. Of course if you are running bunk gear thenb it can be bad for your wallet to go over any amount of time.
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