Why Take Steriods ????

Antdan · 11-11-2003, 02:51 PM

Im 16 and I see know reason to take steriod I know this boy in my weight traing class that takes them Why take sure I been stuck at benching max 195 for about a month or two But when I get over the hump I belive my max will shoot up So why people do you take steriods

**Mudge** · 11-11-2003, 02:54 PM

At such a young age he should not be messing with the stuff IMO.

KataMaStEr · 11-11-2003, 03:39 PM

To have that extra edge. Some people are heavy smokers others are alcoholics, this guys chose to use steroids. At least they have something to show for it.

**Mudge** · 11-11-2003, 03:43 PM

My main beef is that the person should know what they are doing with training and diet first. Secondly at that age, he may be giving up on some growing that has not finished, and if the guy is 5'8" I'd want to finish growing first.

Leslie · 11-11-2003, 03:54 PM

If you are going to use steroids, I would think the best time to use them is when you have reached a plateau with natural training. (I mena plateau witrh muscle growth not weight amount)

At your age, I doubt you have reached 30% of your potential.

SJ69 · 11-11-2003, 05:19 PM

At 16 your producing more natural testosterone (steroids) than you ever will in your life, if you start taking steroids now your body will stop producing the huge amounts of steroids it already does. Why shut that down at its peak?
So I hope YOU are not considering using steroids.
But don't judge adults, everyone has their reasons and some are very legit. Some people use their "chemical" advantage to put food on the table, to remain competetive in professional sports, modeling, personal reasons etc.

**Mudge** · 11-11-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by SJ69
At 16 your producing more natural testosterone (steroids) than you ever will in your life, if you start taking steroids now your body will stop producing the huge amounts of steroids it already does. Why shut that down at its peak?

Oh really, where did you come by this information? I have actually heard a completely different theory, however I fail to see how a young person is in a worse situation than an older person, I dont buy it and have never seen data on this so I'd like to know.

SJ69 · 11-11-2003, 08:47 PM

Testosterone causes puberty, teens have higher levels than adults, that's the primary reason acne is such a problem with teens - high tesosterone levels. All I was saying was a teen should go with his natural advantage (higher natural test) and those hormone feedback loops are so delicate I think its especially unwise to F with them at such a critical juncture in development. Also the liver is not fully devoloped until after puberty and most kids I would think would opt for straight oral steroids.
I know Mudge knows a lot more than I do about the specifics, just offering my opinion.

**Mudge** · 11-11-2003, 09:00 PM

I would not push it on a kid ever, they should not be messing with it at that age, but I have never seen or heard anything magical about it screwing up thier permanent T/E levels because of thier age.

Steroidal acne and increase hair growth are not unheard of, since you are putting yourself in that puberty zone again.

Antdan · 11-12-2003, 03:06 PM

I dont want to take Steroids I wanna know why people take them

**Prince** · 11-12-2003, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Antdan
I dont want to take Steroids I wanna know why people take them

Athletes take them to be bigger, stronger & faster and gain that edge in pro sports.

Bodybuilders have no choice, to get big enough to compete at the pro level they have to use them

Recreational bodybuilders take them for personal reasons, ego boost, increase self confidence, they want to be bigger and stronger for personal reasons.

If used "correctly" the health risks are minimal. Personally, I do not use them because they're illegal.

**Mudge** · 11-12-2003, 03:54 PM

Why do you think? You must have some idea.

gr81 · 11-12-2003, 04:18 PM

what a silly post. why do people do drugs, to get high! why do people take anabolics, to get big! it isn't rocket science bro.

Antdan · 11-12-2003, 05:06 PM

But how do They work what does Testorone do to increase muscles

**Mudge** · 11-12-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Antdan
But how do They work what does Testorone do to increase muscles

What do men have 7-10 times more of that women do not?

ST240 · 11-12-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by Mudge
What do men have 7-10 times more of that women do not?

hahahaha nice answer

but seriously if you think youre gonna grow dont do it!!!! im stuck at 5'8" (which runs in the family) and it sucks ass being this short

gr81 · 11-13-2003, 03:29 AM

5'8" ain't that short man, I am about 5'9" and that is a great height for a BB. Imagine how much harder it is to fill out a 6'5" frame. It is easier to appear bigger at a smaller height. Now for a basketball player things are different. bodybuilding is one of teh few sports that being an average height isn't bad.

gr81 · 11-13-2003, 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by Antdan
But how do They work what does Testorone do to increase muscles

Do you realize how long of an answer I could give you man. It is a bit of a complex and depth discussion that it would take to answer that. Try doing a search or do some proactive research to learn something, what a novel idea huh.

plouffe · 11-13-2003, 04:32 PM

People take steriods to make gains where there maximum genetic potential left off. I've honestly never juiced. But I've read a decent ammount on steriods, and I'm definatly going to look into it in 2-3 years.

ST240 · 11-13-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by gr81
5'8" ain't that short man, I am about 5'9" and that is a great height for a BB. Imagine how much harder it is to fill out a 6'5" frame. It is easier to appear bigger at a smaller height. Now for a basketball player things are different. bodybuilding is one of teh few sports that being an average height isn't bad.

ehh now that you say that it doesnt seem so bad... thats some good positive thinking

**Mudge** · 11-13-2003, 05:57 PM

My brother is 5'6", and I'm 6'2".

oaktownboy · 11-14-2003, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by ST240
hahahaha nice answer

but seriously if you think youre gonna grow dont do it!!!! im stuck at 5'8" (which runs in the family) and it sucks ass being this short

5'8'' runs in the family...u make it sound like a bad thing

ST240 · 11-15-2003, 12:54 AM

meh i just wish i was a lil taller thats all.... thankful to be alive tho

Tha Don · 11-15-2003, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by gr81
5'8" ain't that short man, I am about 5'9" and that is a great height for a BB. Imagine how much harder it is to fill out a 6'5" frame. It is easier to appear bigger at a smaller height. Now for a basketball player things are different. bodybuilding is one of teh few sports that being an average height isn't bad.

word

i'm 6"3, my homie is 5"7 or 5"8, a lil short... we both have the same size arms and both play for the basketball team and everyone is like, "damm marks arms are big!", he looks really filled out, while i look a decent size but not that huge at all

for bodybuilding being short is an advantage, smaller limbs are better for lifting big weights too, so don't complain!

peace

Big Steve · 11-15-2003, 09:22 AM

I think no body under the age of 21 should be fooling around with steroids and even pro hormones at that matter. But what kid is going to listen. I hope he likes he's happy at the height he is right now.

Antdan · 11-18-2003, 08:34 AM

No I dont want to take Steroids A Guy in my weight training class who is 18 takes them and I havent noticed him getting bigger so Whats the big deal with them

maddog1 · 11-18-2003, 08:55 AM

maybe he just says he's taking them

Antdan · 11-18-2003, 09:02 AM

**Prince** · 11-18-2003, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Antdan
No I dont want to take Steroids A Guy in my weight training class who is 18 takes them and I havent noticed him getting bigger so Whats the big deal with them

Many variables:

He may not be taking an optimal cycle, or enough to cause growth.

He may may not have a proper diet or be eating enough calories and protein.

He may be taking fake steroids (popular on the black market).

He may not have the genetics, I knew guys in high school that just did not respond to steroids, except for strength gains.

Or, maybe he is just full of shit and is not even taking steroids.

Here is some info for you on steroids:

11-11-2003, 02:51 PM	#1
Antdan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 143	Why Take Steriods ???? BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Im 16 and I see know reason to take steriod I know this boy in my weight traing class that takes them Why take sure I been stuck at benching max 195 for about a month or two But when I get over the hump I belive my max will shoot up So why people do you take steriods

11-11-2003, 02:54 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,993 Photos: 1	At such a young age he should not be messing with the stuff IMO.
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Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	If you are going to use steroids, I would think the best time to use them is when you have reached a plateau with natural training. (I mena plateau witrh muscle growth not weight amount) At your age, I doubt you have reached 30% of your potential.
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11-11-2003, 05:19 PM	#6
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,023 Photos: 1	At 16 your producing more natural testosterone (steroids) than you ever will in your life, if you start taking steroids now your body will stop producing the huge amounts of steroids it already does. Why shut that down at its peak? So I hope YOU are not considering using steroids. But don't judge adults, everyone has their reasons and some are very legit. Some people use their "chemical" advantage to put food on the table, to remain competetive in professional sports, modeling, personal reasons etc.
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11-11-2003, 08:47 PM	#8
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,023 Photos: 1	Testosterone causes puberty, teens have higher levels than adults, that's the primary reason acne is such a problem with teens - high tesosterone levels. All I was saying was a teen should go with his natural advantage (higher natural test) and those hormone feedback loops are so delicate I think its especially unwise to F with them at such a critical juncture in development. Also the liver is not fully devoloped until after puberty and most kids I would think would opt for straight oral steroids. I know Mudge knows a lot more than I do about the specifics, just offering my opinion.
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11-11-2003, 03:39 PM	#3
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,959 Photos: 7	To have that extra edge. Some people are heavy smokers others are alcoholics, this guys chose to use steroids. At least they have something to show for it.

11-11-2003, 03:43 PM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,993 Photos: 1	My main beef is that the person should know what they are doing with training and diet first. Secondly at that age, he may be giving up on some growing that has not finished, and if the guy is 5'8" I'd want to finish growing first.

11-11-2003, 09:00 PM	#9
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,993 Photos: 1	I would not push it on a kid ever, they should not be messing with it at that age, but I have never seen or heard anything magical about it screwing up thier permanent T/E levels because of thier age. Steroidal acne and increase hair growth are not unheard of, since you are putting yourself in that puberty zone again.

11-12-2003, 03:06 PM	#10
Antdan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 143	I dont want to take Steroids I wanna know why people take them

11-12-2003, 03:54 PM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,993 Photos: 1	Why do you think? You must have some idea.

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gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	what a silly post. why do people do drugs, to get high! why do people take anabolics, to get big! it isn't rocket science bro.
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Antdan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 143	But how do They work what does Testorone do to increase muscles

11-13-2003, 03:29 AM	#17
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	5'8" ain't that short man, I am about 5'9" and that is a great height for a BB. Imagine how much harder it is to fill out a 6'5" frame. It is easier to appear bigger at a smaller height. Now for a basketball player things are different. bodybuilding is one of teh few sports that being an average height isn't bad.
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plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	People take steriods to make gains where there maximum genetic potential left off. I've honestly never juiced. But I've read a decent ammount on steriods, and I'm definatly going to look into it in 2-3 years.
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11-13-2003, 05:57 PM	#21
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,993 Photos: 1	My brother is 5'6", and I'm 6'2".

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ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	meh i just wish i was a lil taller thats all.... thankful to be alive tho

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Big Steve Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4	I think no body under the age of 21 should be fooling around with steroids and even pro hormones at that matter. But what kid is going to listen. I hope he likes he's happy at the height he is right now.
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11-18-2003, 08:34 AM	#26
Antdan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 143	No I dont want to take Steroids A Guy in my weight training class who is 18 takes them and I havent noticed him getting bigger so Whats the big deal with them

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maddog1 Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 313	maybe he just says he's taking them
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