Crazyfist

I have been weight training for 2 years now, and have maxed at 250. I'm 5'9". 220lbs. I was thinking about using a real cycle of Deca and Cytomel to gain mass, but also lose some fat. ANyone have any advice on this stack- doses, (mg/day, times/day) SHould I combine clenbutrol with it? Advanced advice is much appriciated.

Mudge

Test is better alone. In your words though, why deca?

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Crazyfist

Meaning I should just use the deca alone? Nothing else to stack with? I hear that deca can burn fat too, but how much?

Mudge

You heard wrong, deca works on high calorie diets, and no I would not use it alone because I dont feel like being impotent at my age.

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Crazyfist

What is a good stack you would recommend for someone who hasn't ever used real test before?

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MEATHEADTG

500mg test enenthat
200 or 400 mg deca (see what suits u)
front load with 40mg d/bol per day for 3 to 4 week's until the test kicks in eat/train/sleep and fu****ing GROWWWWWW

later

Mikhal

Yeah Bro, I'm no expert on the subject, however from my own limited experience, I ran 200mgs weekly of Decca along with Primobolen depot at 100mg weekly for 8 weeks and I got crazy results. I think that Mudge is also on point about the Test thing cause I also ran Sus 250 at 100mgs for 5 weeks ago with that.My dick worked and I went from 144 to 169 solid muscle, now the only problem I've got is dropping down to 155 by Feb. I gained JUST MUSCLE so losing weight is going to be a tricky bitch while trying to keep this strength. But I hope this at least gives you another viewpoint. Decca seems to be the BOMB! Also from my understanding Primobolen is one of the only gears that work on a low cal diet. Peace

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slowpain

I took 400 mg. deca and 300 mg primo for 6 weeks and It shut me down pretty hard. That was my first cycle. I would recomend using at least some test with cycle. Just to let you know how hard it shut me down, I was 20 years old at the time and had no sex drive when I was on it, and quite some time after. Took me at least a couple of months to get it back.

Derek Vinyard

Two years training and maxed out? I don't believe it for a second, something isn't right with your food consumption, training or rest. There is no way you would ever reach your natural best in two years, you aren't even at the 40% margin yet.
Take it from me. 8 years training now and I've hit the biggest plateau I've ever encountered, but I really don't think I'm done. I'm going to get over it.
Remember the first year you make huge gains, after a couple years things slow down. I'm happy to gain 2lbs of solid muscle in a year now.

Crazyfist

Yeah, I do think your right about my food consumption...ever since I started traveling with work, I haven't been eating right at all. I definiatly need to be eating better.

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crackerjack414

every one has differnt genetics so its hard to say who hits the wall when. Some people have to be big for there perspective sports like myself. I cant be some 160 pound kid i would be run over all day long. Now at 210 iam a threat to even the best teams.