deca cyp hurts!

dropteeth · 11-22-2003, 05:52 PM

hi guys..

im 17 days in to my 12 week cycle... its my first cycle...

doing 500 ttokkyo cypionate and 400 ttokkyo Deca... split into 2 shots a week...

after every shot i get a hard lump in my thigh...and the next day it feels like i have a charlie horse (pain lasts about 3-5 days... is this normal? also i have not felt anything from the gear? i know deca takes 3-4 weeks and cyp usuall 12-14 days... but no effects yet, when should i expect to notice anything thanks...

gr81 · 11-22-2003, 07:14 PM

it is gonna take about 5 weeks or so to startt noticing teh weight gain. Maybe sooner for strength to move up. I'd bump up the test dose though personally. you have a few weeks to go though, no worries.

dropteeth · 11-22-2003, 07:59 PM

what about the pain ive been getting and the lump is this normal?

Mikhal · 11-22-2003, 10:41 PM

Yo bro, I've only limited experience, but I always shoot myself and so far the only time that I've ever seen a lump is with maxi-B 1000 , it only lasted about 10 minutes and the pain was nothing. hope that helps. Perhaps you did not go deep enough into the muscle tissue.

gr81 · 11-23-2003, 01:15 PM

yeah it is normal. You tend tyo see things like that according to how high the alcohol percentage of the drug is. It also greatly depends on teh person too. When I was on I would always have a lumo where ever I went when I would load high dose things like test 400 or a 250 blend. I seemed to be fine loading like cycp 200 though. It all depends. As long as these things discepate in a week or so you shouldn't have anything to worry about. if it lasts longer though then I would start to fret.

**Mudge** · 11-23-2003, 01:21 PM

Its because its ttokkyo. As for thigh shots, I dont like them - if the gear hurts that is the worst spot to put it in other than your calves, serious walking issues can be incurred with anything that bothers you even mildly it seems.

dropteeth · 11-23-2003, 03:17 PM

IIve never injected in my butt.. i heard there is a huge nerve that runs there.. i went to spot injections.com..i cant tell to much from the pic..but to you have to go on a slight angle? is it easy any info appreciated...im a little nervous about it

Mikhal · 11-23-2003, 03:35 PM

Man I'm a wuss I never liked needles to begin with so the only place that I ever injected has been my delts. I may get the nerve to stab my ass one day, however after reading Mudge's constant warnings about quaids and calfs , I can pretty safely say I"M NOT WITH THAT.Hopefully GR81 or Mudge will comment on this and give you some more insight, But I would say stick (no pun intended) with the less painful sites.

gr81 · 11-23-2003, 07:59 PM

the glute injections are teh easiest and least painful. Thais usually what the beginners start out with b/c of thos reasons. Think about it, it is a large area for the oil to discepate and there is lots of fat so it really isn't as painful. Plus there are more nerves and veins in the thighs. If you are worried about the pain and libgering affects then I would go in the glutes for a while.
I can personally say that I have goen everywhere just about, and I have never had probs with teh glutes whereas I have had so many painful nihgts nursing the quads and bis and places like that.

BUSTINOUT · 11-23-2003, 08:15 PM

You are referring to the sciatic nerve and unless you are a contortionist, you are not likely to hit it. But believe me...you'll know when you do. lol

Quest2be1 · 11-24-2003, 04:13 AM

lol, i dont know what is up with all of you all, grab a damn 1 inch needle shove that sucker in your ass, then withdraw to make sure there is no blood, then slowly push it in, this is by far the easiest way to take this stuff and if you have a really big ass use a 1 and a half inch needle, dont put the needle close to your crack, that is where the nerve is located, i prefer around the middle of my cheeck, look at your as like a graph in 4 regions, hit those up and you will be just fine peeps, enjoy :P

**Mudge** · 11-24-2003, 11:26 AM

Ass is pretty easy, although I did strike blood the last time I hit my left cheek. I used to love delts alot more but these days I am actually liking traps much more, even though they are a little bit of a bitch to reach.

dropteeth · 11-24-2003, 11:35 AM

do you go in on an angle in the glutes or straight in?

**Mudge** · 11-24-2003, 11:38 AM

I have done slight angle and straight in, if you use an angle you decrease the effective length of the pin. I have always been using 1.5" but I think I am lean enough that 1" seems ok also.

The instructions for ass shots are simple, divide into 4 sections, and if this is the right cheek in question then you go to the upper/outer quadrant by a couple inches. I have never hit any nerves in the ass, but in the traps and triceps I have. I unfortunately seem to hit blood every time I do triceps unless I inject in the "horseshoe" and I dont like to put alot of oil there so those are pretty much a no-mas kind of thing.

11-22-2003, 05:52 PM	#1
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43	deca cyp hurts! hi guys.. im 17 days in to my 12 week cycle... its my first cycle... doing 500 ttokkyo cypionate and 400 ttokkyo Deca... split into 2 shots a week... after every shot i get a hard lump in my thigh...and the next day it feels like i have a charlie horse (pain lasts about 3-5 days... is this normal? also i have not felt anything from the gear? i know deca takes 3-4 weeks and cyp usuall 12-14 days... but no effects yet, when should i expect to notice anything thanks...
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43

11-22-2003, 07:14 PM	#2
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	it is gonna take about 5 weeks or so to startt noticing teh weight gain. Maybe sooner for strength to move up. I'd bump up the test dose though personally. you have a few weeks to go though, no worries.
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

11-22-2003, 07:59 PM	#3
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43	what about the pain ive been getting and the lump is this normal?
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11-22-2003, 10:41 PM	#4
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	Yo bro, I've only limited experience, but I always shoot myself and so far the only time that I've ever seen a lump is with maxi-B 1000 , it only lasted about 10 minutes and the pain was nothing. hope that helps. Perhaps you did not go deep enough into the muscle tissue.
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-23-2003, 01:15 PM	#5
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	yeah it is normal. You tend tyo see things like that according to how high the alcohol percentage of the drug is. It also greatly depends on teh person too. When I was on I would always have a lumo where ever I went when I would load high dose things like test 400 or a 250 blend. I seemed to be fine loading like cycp 200 though. It all depends. As long as these things discepate in a week or so you shouldn't have anything to worry about. if it lasts longer though then I would start to fret.
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

11-23-2003, 01:21 PM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	Its because its ttokkyo. As for thigh shots, I dont like them - if the gear hurts that is the worst spot to put it in other than your calves, serious walking issues can be incurred with anything that bothers you even mildly it seems.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

11-23-2003, 03:17 PM	#7
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43	IIve never injected in my butt.. i heard there is a huge nerve that runs there.. i went to spot injections.com..i cant tell to much from the pic..but to you have to go on a slight angle? is it easy any info appreciated...im a little nervous about it
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43

11-23-2003, 03:35 PM	#8
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 798 Photos: 5	Man I'm a wuss I never liked needles to begin with so the only place that I ever injected has been my delts. I may get the nerve to stab my ass one day, however after reading Mudge's constant warnings about quaids and calfs , I can pretty safely say I"M NOT WITH THAT.Hopefully GR81 or Mudge will comment on this and give you some more insight, But I would say stick (no pun intended) with the less painful sites.
	I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-23-2003, 07:59 PM	#9
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	the glute injections are teh easiest and least painful. Thais usually what the beginners start out with b/c of thos reasons. Think about it, it is a large area for the oil to discepate and there is lots of fat so it really isn't as painful. Plus there are more nerves and veins in the thighs. If you are worried about the pain and libgering affects then I would go in the glutes for a while. I can personally say that I have goen everywhere just about, and I have never had probs with teh glutes whereas I have had so many painful nihgts nursing the quads and bis and places like that.
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

11-23-2003, 08:15 PM	#10
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,418	You are referring to the sciatic nerve and unless you are a contortionist, you are not likely to hit it. But believe me...you'll know when you do. lol

11-24-2003, 04:13 AM	#11
Quest2be1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 35	lol, i dont know what is up with all of you all, grab a damn 1 inch needle shove that sucker in your ass, then withdraw to make sure there is no blood, then slowly push it in, this is by far the easiest way to take this stuff and if you have a really big ass use a 1 and a half inch needle, dont put the needle close to your crack, that is where the nerve is located, i prefer around the middle of my cheeck, look at your as like a graph in 4 regions, hit those up and you will be just fine peeps, enjoy :P
Quest2be1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 35	->->Quest2be1_aka_adxel<-<-

11-24-2003, 11:26 AM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	Ass is pretty easy, although I did strike blood the last time I hit my left cheek. I used to love delts alot more but these days I am actually liking traps much more, even though they are a little bit of a bitch to reach.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

11-24-2003, 11:35 AM	#13
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43	do you go in on an angle in the glutes or straight in?
dropteeth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 43

11-24-2003, 11:38 AM	#14
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	I have done slight angle and straight in, if you use an angle you decrease the effective length of the pin. I have always been using 1.5" but I think I am lean enough that 1" seems ok also. The instructions for ass shots are simple, divide into 4 sections, and if this is the right cheek in question then you go to the upper/outer quadrant by a couple inches. I have never hit any nerves in the ass, but in the traps and triceps I have. I unfortunately seem to hit blood every time I do triceps unless I inject in the "horseshoe" and I dont like to put alot of oil there so those are pretty much a no-mas kind of thing.

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