deca cyp hurts!

**dropteeth** · 11-22-2003, 04:52 PM

hi guys..

im 17 days in to my 12 week cycle... its my first cycle...

doing 500 ttokkyo cypionate and 400 ttokkyo Deca... split into 2 shots a week...

after every shot i get a hard lump in my thigh...and the next day it feels like i have a charlie horse (pain lasts about 3-5 days... is this normal? also i have not felt anything from the gear? i know deca takes 3-4 weeks and cyp usuall 12-14 days... but no effects yet, when should i expect to notice anything thanks...

**gr81** · 11-22-2003, 06:14 PM

it is gonna take about 5 weeks or so to startt noticing teh weight gain. Maybe sooner for strength to move up. I'd bump up the test dose though personally. you have a few weeks to go though, no worries.

**dropteeth** · 11-22-2003, 06:59 PM

what about the pain ive been getting and the lump is this normal?

**Supermans Daddy** · 11-22-2003, 09:41 PM

Yo bro, I've only limited experience, but I always shoot myself and so far the only time that I've ever seen a lump is with maxi-B 1000 , it only lasted about 10 minutes and the pain was nothing. hope that helps. Perhaps you did not go deep enough into the muscle tissue.

**gr81** · 11-23-2003, 12:15 PM

yeah it is normal. You tend tyo see things like that according to how high the alcohol percentage of the drug is. It also greatly depends on teh person too. When I was on I would always have a lumo where ever I went when I would load high dose things like test 400 or a 250 blend. I seemed to be fine loading like cycp 200 though. It all depends. As long as these things discepate in a week or so you shouldn't have anything to worry about. if it lasts longer though then I would start to fret.

**Mudge** · 11-23-2003, 12:21 PM

Its because its ttokkyo. As for thigh shots, I dont like them - if the gear hurts that is the worst spot to put it in other than your calves, serious walking issues can be incurred with anything that bothers you even mildly it seems.

**dropteeth** · 11-23-2003, 02:17 PM

IIve never injected in my butt.. i heard there is a huge nerve that runs there.. i went to spot injections.com..i cant tell to much from the pic..but to you have to go on a slight angle? is it easy any info appreciated...im a little nervous about it

**Supermans Daddy** · 11-23-2003, 02:35 PM

Man I'm a wuss I never liked needles to begin with so the only place that I ever injected has been my delts. I may get the nerve to stab my ass one day, however after reading Mudge's constant warnings about quaids and calfs , I can pretty safely say I"M NOT WITH THAT.Hopefully GR81 or Mudge will comment on this and give you some more insight, But I would say stick (no pun intended) with the less painful sites.

**gr81** · 11-23-2003, 06:59 PM

the glute injections are teh easiest and least painful. Thais usually what the beginners start out with b/c of thos reasons. Think about it, it is a large area for the oil to discepate and there is lots of fat so it really isn't as painful. Plus there are more nerves and veins in the thighs. If you are worried about the pain and libgering affects then I would go in the glutes for a while.
I can personally say that I have goen everywhere just about, and I have never had probs with teh glutes whereas I have had so many painful nihgts nursing the quads and bis and places like that.

**BUSTINOUT** · 11-23-2003, 07:15 PM

You are referring to the sciatic nerve and unless you are a contortionist, you are not likely to hit it. But believe me...you'll know when you do. lol

**Quest2be1** · 11-24-2003, 03:13 AM

lol, i dont know what is up with all of you all, grab a damn 1 inch needle shove that sucker in your ass, then withdraw to make sure there is no blood, then slowly push it in, this is by far the easiest way to take this stuff and if you have a really big ass use a 1 and a half inch needle, dont put the needle close to your crack, that is where the nerve is located, i prefer around the middle of my cheeck, look at your as like a graph in 4 regions, hit those up and you will be just fine peeps, enjoy :P

**Mudge** · 11-24-2003, 10:26 AM

Ass is pretty easy, although I did strike blood the last time I hit my left cheek. I used to love delts alot more but these days I am actually liking traps much more, even though they are a little bit of a bitch to reach.

**dropteeth** · 11-24-2003, 10:35 AM

do you go in on an angle in the glutes or straight in?

**Mudge** · 11-24-2003, 10:38 AM

I have done slight angle and straight in, if you use an angle you decrease the effective length of the pin. I have always been using 1.5" but I think I am lean enough that 1" seems ok also.

The instructions for ass shots are simple, divide into 4 sections, and if this is the right cheek in question then you go to the upper/outer quadrant by a couple inches. I have never hit any nerves in the ass, but in the traps and triceps I have. I unfortunately seem to hit blood every time I do triceps unless I inject in the "horseshoe" and I dont like to put alot of oil there so those are pretty much a no-mas kind of thing.

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