Thread: ???? Starting cycle???

I wouldn't even start without test, but thats just my opinion, someone elses may differ.

Nice starting set-up, but as said, you want test. Without, you can get really tired, as the body is not producing as much and you need it to meet some basic needs. The other drugs are analogs, that is the molecules have a similar structure to test, so the body thinks it is getting test and stops its own output. So you need to compensate for this by adding the synthetic test.

Thanks for the quick replies What kind and how much should i do ???

Check the half life table on this board. It will tell you how long it lasts. The longer it lasts the less times you have to inject. If you decide to do it, people generally go 400-750 mgs/ week.

Thanks for the help maddog1 !!!

With tren you are looking at daily or every other day injections. You can do prop if you like, or you can do enanthate/cypionate, or sustanon which usually costs more. If you go with enan/cyp you can keep it to twice weekly injections and is easier to achieve a higher mg count through the week without the pain of prop injections.

Prop at 100mg/ml is not terrible, but if you are only doing EOD for example you are looking at 350mg per week, which is decent but I prefer more. I am currently doing daily injections with tren/prop and you do get a bit sick of it. I am getting very vascular and I seem to strike 'oil' nearly every time I go in now. It may be worth it to me but it may not to you.

With that in mind I'd probably go with enan or cyp and shoot for 500mg through the week which means 250mg twice during the week along with your tren, which should be EOD because it is a short lasting ester like the propionate is.

Half lives and such are in the big PCT/half lives sticky at the top of the page.

Thanks mudge so im going to do A bombs first 6 days i have 200 caps of anavar how many should i take a day?? i have 2 bottles of EQ And the Tren i will also get sustanon 250 16 shot's is that enough please tell me the best way to do all of this i have only done winny before . the rest is all new and how long should i be working out before i start i have been out of the gym for a while is two weeks back in good enough??

I have heard of as low as 15mg a day of anavar working well when its legitimate. You will frequently see 40-60mg a day however, your caps are probably either 2.5 or 5mg, I assume you know but you did not state this.

16 amps of sust is enough for 8 weeks @ 2 amps a week.

I have seen EQ in 25mg/ml and 500mg/ml, I assume those are 10ml bottles but you dont tell us anything about the products really.

It takes me 4-6 weeks to work up to a full routine after not working out for awhile.

Hefty, I'm glad Mudge is a thoughtful and nice person. If you would have asked these questions on other boards, they would have scolded you. Are you sure you are ready to do this??

Of course im ready i just don't want to make any mistakes i new to this but not scared of it i want to get the max results thanks again for the patience you have been very helpfull i will post my progress once i start thanks hefty