???? Starting cycle???

Hefty · 11-25-2003, 11:09 AM

pretty new to the juice I was going to start a cycle but not sure the best way to do it the gear i have follows Abombs for first six days for jump start 200 caps of anavar 2 bottles of EQ and a large bottle of homemade tren please give me some advice of the best way to cycle this gear

**Mudge** · 11-25-2003, 11:19 AM

I wouldn't even start without test, but thats just my opinion, someone elses may differ.

maddog1 · 11-25-2003, 11:33 AM

Nice starting set-up, but as said, you want test. Without, you can get really tired, as the body is not producing as much and you need it to meet some basic needs. The other drugs are analogs, that is the molecules have a similar structure to test, so the body thinks it is getting test and stops its own output. So you need to compensate for this by adding the synthetic test.

Hefty · 11-25-2003, 11:36 AM

Thanks for the quick replies What kind and how much should i do ???

maddog1 · 11-25-2003, 11:45 AM

Check the half life table on this board. It will tell you how long it lasts. The longer it lasts the less times you have to inject. If you decide to do it, people generally go 400-750 mgs/ week.

Hefty · 11-25-2003, 11:49 AM

Thanks for the help maddog1 !!!

**Mudge** · 11-25-2003, 11:57 AM

With tren you are looking at daily or every other day injections. You can do prop if you like, or you can do enanthate/cypionate, or sustanon which usually costs more. If you go with enan/cyp you can keep it to twice weekly injections and is easier to achieve a higher mg count through the week without the pain of prop injections.

Prop at 100mg/ml is not terrible, but if you are only doing EOD for example you are looking at 350mg per week, which is decent but I prefer more. I am currently doing daily injections with tren/prop and you do get a bit sick of it. I am getting very vascular and I seem to strike 'oil' nearly every time I go in now. It may be worth it to me but it may not to you.

With that in mind I'd probably go with enan or cyp and shoot for 500mg through the week which means 250mg twice during the week along with your tren, which should be EOD because it is a short lasting ester like the propionate is.

Half lives and such are in the big PCT/half lives sticky at the top of the page.

Hefty · 11-25-2003, 12:13 PM

Thanks mudge so im going to do A bombs first 6 days i have 200 caps of anavar how many should i take a day?? i have 2 bottles of EQ And the Tren i will also get sustanon 250 16 shot's is that enough please tell me the best way to do all of this i have only done winny before . the rest is all new and how long should i be working out before i start i have been out of the gym for a while is two weeks back in good enough??

**Mudge** · 11-25-2003, 12:24 PM

I have heard of as low as 15mg a day of anavar working well when its legitimate. You will frequently see 40-60mg a day however, your caps are probably either 2.5 or 5mg, I assume you know but you did not state this.

16 amps of sust is enough for 8 weeks @ 2 amps a week.

I have seen EQ in 25mg/ml and 500mg/ml, I assume those are 10ml bottles but you dont tell us anything about the products really.

It takes me 4-6 weeks to work up to a full routine after not working out for awhile.

**dg806** · 11-25-2003, 12:36 PM

Hefty, I'm glad Mudge is a thoughtful and nice person. If you would have asked these questions on other boards, they would have scolded you. Are you sure you are ready to do this??

Hefty · 11-25-2003, 12:40 PM

Of course im ready i just don't want to make any mistakes i new to this but not scared of it i want to get the max results thanks again for the patience you have been very helpfull i will post my progress once i start thanks hefty

**dg806** · 11-25-2003, 12:43 PM

I'm not knocking you, but most people already know these things. But I'm glad you asked before you jumped in not knowing. AA's are not something to take lightly. If you are not sure, wait and do more research. You always have time. Anyway, good luck!

11-25-2003, 11:09 AM	#1
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9	???? Starting cycle??? pretty new to the juice I was going to start a cycle but not sure the best way to do it the gear i have follows Abombs for first six days for jump start 200 caps of anavar 2 bottles of EQ and a large bottle of homemade tren please give me some advice of the best way to cycle this gear
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9

11-25-2003, 11:19 AM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	I wouldn't even start without test, but thats just my opinion, someone elses may differ.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

11-25-2003, 11:33 AM	#3
maddog1 Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 313	Nice starting set-up, but as said, you want test. Without, you can get really tired, as the body is not producing as much and you need it to meet some basic needs. The other drugs are analogs, that is the molecules have a similar structure to test, so the body thinks it is getting test and stops its own output. So you need to compensate for this by adding the synthetic test.
	Success is measured not by the position that one has reached in life, rather by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed. Booker T. Washington

11-25-2003, 11:36 AM	#4
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9	Thanks for the quick replies What kind and how much should i do ???
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9

11-25-2003, 11:45 AM	#5
maddog1 Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 313	Check the half life table on this board. It will tell you how long it lasts. The longer it lasts the less times you have to inject. If you decide to do it, people generally go 400-750 mgs/ week.
	Success is measured not by the position that one has reached in life, rather by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed. Booker T. Washington

11-25-2003, 11:49 AM	#6
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9	Thanks for the help maddog1 !!!
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9

11-25-2003, 11:57 AM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	With tren you are looking at daily or every other day injections. You can do prop if you like, or you can do enanthate/cypionate, or sustanon which usually costs more. If you go with enan/cyp you can keep it to twice weekly injections and is easier to achieve a higher mg count through the week without the pain of prop injections. Prop at 100mg/ml is not terrible, but if you are only doing EOD for example you are looking at 350mg per week, which is decent but I prefer more. I am currently doing daily injections with tren/prop and you do get a bit sick of it. I am getting very vascular and I seem to strike 'oil' nearly every time I go in now. It may be worth it to me but it may not to you. With that in mind I'd probably go with enan or cyp and shoot for 500mg through the week which means 250mg twice during the week along with your tren, which should be EOD because it is a short lasting ester like the propionate is. Half lives and such are in the big PCT/half lives sticky at the top of the page.

11-25-2003, 12:13 PM	#8
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9	Thanks mudge so im going to do A bombs first 6 days i have 200 caps of anavar how many should i take a day?? i have 2 bottles of EQ And the Tren i will also get sustanon 250 16 shot's is that enough please tell me the best way to do all of this i have only done winny before . the rest is all new and how long should i be working out before i start i have been out of the gym for a while is two weeks back in good enough??
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9

11-25-2003, 12:24 PM	#9
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	I have heard of as low as 15mg a day of anavar working well when its legitimate. You will frequently see 40-60mg a day however, your caps are probably either 2.5 or 5mg, I assume you know but you did not state this. 16 amps of sust is enough for 8 weeks @ 2 amps a week. I have seen EQ in 25mg/ml and 500mg/ml, I assume those are 10ml bottles but you dont tell us anything about the products really. It takes me 4-6 weeks to work up to a full routine after not working out for awhile.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

11-25-2003, 12:36 PM	#10
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,439	Hefty, I'm glad Mudge is a thoughtful and nice person. If you would have asked these questions on other boards, they would have scolded you. Are you sure you are ready to do this??
	www.sbmuscle.com

11-25-2003, 12:40 PM	#11
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9	Of course im ready i just don't want to make any mistakes i new to this but not scared of it i want to get the max results thanks again for the patience you have been very helpfull i will post my progress once i start thanks hefty
Hefty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9

11-25-2003, 12:43 PM	#12
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,439	I'm not knocking you, but most people already know these things. But I'm glad you asked before you jumped in not knowing. AA's are not something to take lightly. If you are not sure, wait and do more research. You always have time. Anyway, good luck!
	www.sbmuscle.com

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