Started Cycle (stats)

Just a guy · 12-15-2003, 05:06 PM

All rite fellas... started my next cycle today... its looking like this...

8-10 d-bol a day with 800 mg's of test cyp and 500mg's of EQ every week.... and then in the last 4 weeks... i got winstrol tabs to harden up what i gained.

Alrite im weighing in at 220 so i'll keep yall posted on how this works.... does everything sound good to yall? Im gonna try to eat clean.... well... when u say eat clean... what kind of diet do you meen... so that i can gain ALL muscle (hopefully) without much fat... im already fat

I gained alot from my last cycle (fat) but lost about 25 pounds of it during post cycle... was 245

**Mudge** · 12-15-2003, 05:19 PM

Eating clean means clean slow release carbs, oats, sweet potato, etc

Instead of pizza/ice cream/see-food.

It would also imply, not going from 2500 calories to 5500 overnight.

Just a guy · 12-16-2003, 06:02 AM

roger that

Mikhal · 12-17-2003, 01:00 AM

Great! Take your time ,do it right. Lift with crazy intensity, ( don't forget that cardio) make sure to get a gang of rest, THINK, and stay healthy. Don't fear water( you gotta drink it to lose it, feel me?)Lemme know how you work'n it! PEACE

A.B · 12-21-2003, 05:30 PM

how long are you running the dbol, cyp and eq?

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 07:28 PM

Wait, didn't you just come off? And you are already starting? Or am I missing some time here.

A.B · 12-22-2003, 11:13 AM

and you must run proper PCT in order to get you nat. test back and keep some of your gains. nolva and clomid post cycle. maybe HCG mid cycle. losing 25 pounbds after your last cycle sounds like you didn't run anything PC.

**Mudge** · 12-22-2003, 11:44 AM

If you go from 220 to 245, you also need to eat more to simply maintain bodyweight. Gear is not magic, it is a "special supplement" if you want to refer to it as that. If you dont eat, you wont gain as much and you certainly wont hold it. Shooting a couple milliliters of oil in your ass doesn't do all the work for you.

If you dont understand or even bother to write your diet down, some facet of your body wether high bodyfat or low bodyweight is always going to be the bane of your bodybuilding experience.

Just a guy · 12-22-2003, 11:56 PM

i already did my pct... it only lasted like 2 weeks.... got blood tests

**Mudge** · 12-23-2003, 12:39 AM

Ouch man, alot of people rebound badly after such short PCT treatments, good luck.

I am already pushing it at about 6 weeks or so, straight through into the next cycle.

Just a guy · 12-23-2003, 11:33 AM

dunno... just felt as if i was recovered

**Mudge** · 12-23-2003, 11:48 AM

I dont remember what you were on or for how long, but lets say it was 600mg cypionate.

After 3 weeks you would begin PCT, because this is when the test is pretty much cleared out of the system as far as supplemental test. Then you would begin your recouperation. While doing this and running your estrogen suppressor/FSH+LH stimulator (Nolvadex, your SERM or inferior mild estrogen Clomid), you will temporarily lower estrogen until the body comes back. Coming off too quickly will cause a rebound which has been shown on blood tests.

So I assume you are talking about a 4-5 week period after your last shot, and not just 2 weeks. This would be called cruising, not recovery. All in all, a 'couple weeks' is hardly long enough to judge recouperation.

Just a guy · 12-26-2003, 02:06 PM

Whoops...

i'll do it right next time

**Mudge** · 12-26-2003, 02:47 PM

Well, you pushed it more than I did, and I'm already pushing the envelope

12-15-2003, 05:06 PM	#1
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	Started Cycle (stats) All rite fellas... started my next cycle today... its looking like this... 8-10 d-bol a day with 800 mg's of test cyp and 500mg's of EQ every week.... and then in the last 4 weeks... i got winstrol tabs to harden up what i gained. Alrite im weighing in at 220 so i'll keep yall posted on how this works.... does everything sound good to yall? Im gonna try to eat clean.... well... when u say eat clean... what kind of diet do you meen... so that i can gain ALL muscle (hopefully) without much fat... im already fat I gained alot from my last cycle (fat) but lost about 25 pounds of it during post cycle... was 245

12-15-2003, 05:19 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	Eating clean means clean slow release carbs, oats, sweet potato, etc Instead of pizza/ice cream/see-food. It would also imply, not going from 2500 calories to 5500 overnight.
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12-16-2003, 06:02 AM	#3
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12-17-2003, 01:00 AM	#4
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12-21-2003, 05:30 PM	#5
A.B IFBB Professional Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 48	how long are you running the dbol, cyp and eq?
	N/A

12-21-2003, 07:28 PM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	Wait, didn't you just come off? And you are already starting? Or am I missing some time here.
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12-22-2003, 11:13 AM	#7
A.B IFBB Professional Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 48	and you must run proper PCT in order to get you nat. test back and keep some of your gains. nolva and clomid post cycle. maybe HCG mid cycle. losing 25 pounbds after your last cycle sounds like you didn't run anything PC.
	N/A

12-22-2003, 11:44 AM	#8
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	If you go from 220 to 245, you also need to eat more to simply maintain bodyweight. Gear is not magic, it is a "special supplement" if you want to refer to it as that. If you dont eat, you wont gain as much and you certainly wont hold it. Shooting a couple milliliters of oil in your ass doesn't do all the work for you. If you dont understand or even bother to write your diet down, some facet of your body wether high bodyfat or low bodyweight is always going to be the bane of your bodybuilding experience.

12-22-2003, 11:56 PM	#9
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	i already did my pct... it only lasted like 2 weeks.... got blood tests
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

12-23-2003, 12:39 AM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	Ouch man, alot of people rebound badly after such short PCT treatments, good luck. I am already pushing it at about 6 weeks or so, straight through into the next cycle.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

12-23-2003, 11:33 AM	#11
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	dunno... just felt as if i was recovered
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

12-23-2003, 11:48 AM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	I dont remember what you were on or for how long, but lets say it was 600mg cypionate. After 3 weeks you would begin PCT, because this is when the test is pretty much cleared out of the system as far as supplemental test. Then you would begin your recouperation. While doing this and running your estrogen suppressor/FSH+LH stimulator (Nolvadex, your SERM or inferior mild estrogen Clomid), you will temporarily lower estrogen until the body comes back. Coming off too quickly will cause a rebound which has been shown on blood tests. So I assume you are talking about a 4-5 week period after your last shot, and not just 2 weeks. This would be called cruising, not recovery. All in all, a 'couple weeks' is hardly long enough to judge recouperation.

12-26-2003, 02:06 PM	#13
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	Whoops... i'll do it right next time
	CUTTING! Was 260lbs. Now 02/09/05 236lbs Height:5'8 Age: 20 Bench:395 Leg press:975

12-26-2003, 02:47 PM	#14
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,074 Photos: 1	Well, you pushed it more than I did, and I'm already pushing the envelope

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