crazy motherfu@$er

BadGuy · 12-21-2003, 12:09 PM

at my gym theres this guy who did a cycle of sust for 11 weeks gained alot of weight, then dropped the sust and jumped on tren with test suspension and lost weight, then he jumped on anadrol only taking 200 to 400 mgs a day and blew up like crazy and his bench jumped up 80 or so more lbs that is some crazy shit and hes not even a pro had to share it later

plouffe · 12-21-2003, 12:16 PM

Sounds pretty insane.

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 12:22 PM

Anadrol is one of the top strength and water retention steroids, but 200-400mg by itself? Good way to lose it all coming off.

If M1T works as well as anadrol though like everyone says, I'm going to stock up like a mofo because its way cheaper.

BadGuy · 12-21-2003, 12:33 PM

i doubt m1t is as strong as anadrol especially if its available online legally

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 12:46 PM

I have seen many gearheads get .8-1.0 pounds a day on it.

BadGuy · 12-21-2003, 12:50 PM

how about strength gains on m1t? its sold by power nutrition right?

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 12:54 PM

Its sold at alot of places, if you visit ANY gear board you will hear of it being added to cycles.

I am extremely wary of legal stuff because standard 1-Test did DICK for me at the suggested dose, but this is being backed by everyone big and small.

Like I said, it sounds like anadrol all the way around, strength and size. There are posters in the supplements forum here, you should find plenty on it, for strength and size info.

I know for me, Anadrol @ 100mg a day put 20 pounds on my bench in 12 days.

I bought my M1T at Milleniumfitness.com 80x10mg, there is a place 90x10mg for $40, posted in the supplements forum.

BadGuy · 12-21-2003, 12:58 PM

thanks mudge ill check it out

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 01:06 PM

Seriously, if anyone puts thier nose to legals its me, I'm giving it a shot - hopefully my stuff arrives this week.

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 01:12 PM

Kilosports is now 90x10mg for $40.

prolangtum · 12-21-2003, 01:42 PM

Mike will have it cheaper. For me, I compare M 1T to tren, as far as body composition changes, but I had little strength gains off of it.

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 01:55 PM

That makes sense with what I hear about injectable 1T also, I will have to see for myself.

ST240 · 12-21-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Kilosports is now 90x10mg for $40.

holy sh** batman... VPX has it going 30x10mg for 84$... Why would anyone even consider buying it from VPX

edit: mudge: is kilosports a distributer or do they actually make the M1T

**Mudge** · 12-21-2003, 10:02 PM

I dunno

http://www.kilosports.com/

prolangtum · 12-21-2003, 10:10 PM

As for the injectable 1-T Cyp, I love it. Give me it over EQ anyday, mg for mg. Leans you up impressively like tren, without a change in diet. I ran 1 gram a week with crazy results. I got down to about 7% bf.

BUSTINOUT · 12-21-2003, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ST240
holy sh** batman... VPX has it going 30x10mg for 84$... Why would anyone even consider buying it from VPX

edit: mudge: is kilosports a distributer or do they actually make the M1T

That is why you buy it through a dist and not the mfg site. Learn to shop around man.

ST240 · 12-21-2003, 11:16 PM

bro i know how to shop around i can barely believe its that cheap tho....... im still rubbing my eyes

prolangtum · 12-22-2003, 01:29 AM

mike from 1fat400 will have 60 5 mg pills for under $30, probaly closer to $20. FYI, the powder can be had for $12 per gram.

**Mudge** · 12-22-2003, 01:46 AM

TeamLife wants $90 a gram, ouch.

prolangtum · 12-22-2003, 10:05 AM

Instynct is also selling his long r3 igf-1 for $100 over most others per gram. His 7-aOHN is also ridiculously priced. $300 per gram? That means he would make $300,000 per kilo. I doubt the kilo cost him more than $3,000.

**Mudge** · 12-22-2003, 11:42 AM

I pay way less for Accutane too, that guy must be making some bank. I swear I feel like I'm about to start doing that stuff

maddog1 · 12-24-2003, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
That makes sense with what I hear about injectable 1T also, I will have to see for myself.

Mudge,
Refresh my memory, I think you had front loaded your current cycle with dbol and are probably off it by now. It would be interesting to see how this OTC stuff compares to that since you'll be able to compare them. Let us know.

**Mudge** · 12-24-2003, 01:52 PM

This is going to be about a 6 month cycle, so I am going to end up having used numerous items this time.

I was running pink thais for awhile yes, not as impressive as some underground stuff I ran before, tis life. I was only using 30mg a day though, good pumps.

This was with prop and fina, I went through a 4g kit of fina starting out with 100mg a day but killed that after a week or two because of sleep loss. Prop @ 100mg a day.

I actually just killed off some anadrol, but I question the actual potency of the product. While I picked up strength I picked up ZERO water and no weight whatsoever, not a single pound. I was running 100mg a day. I have green giants on the way also, and if those "do nothing" then I know for sure Anadrol is not for me, being those are the current top dog of the drol world.

So I am running M1T as of yesterday, 20mg ED, obviously nothing to report yet. I will start cypionate 900mg and deca 600mg split into two shots weekly along with this. I need the deca for my joints, mostly my elbows. I will also be dropping a certain triceps machine from my workouts because it starts from the stretch position and it just clicked in my brain last night that it was causing me hell.

I will be tracking my progress, and I will probably force myself to udpate the diet. Now for some people they want to see what M1T by itself does and thats fabulous, but I'm not about to run 1 compound only, it is going to be hard enough staring at the greens and not being able to touch them.

I will run M1T for the first week at 20mg, if I am not satisfied I will try 30mg, if I'm still not satisfied - then I may drop them altogether and go back to the drol.

I had 200 pink thais, so yes they are all gone.

maddog1 · 12-24-2003, 02:04 PM

Damn, that is a serious load of gear to be processing through your system, but you know what you're doing so I wouldn't have any qualms about it.
If you just started the M1T and haven't started the Deca, you'll have a few weeks to see what it does by "itself", since you are switching up the test and dropping the Tren. You went through 200 pinks wow.
I had to stop after about 35, I was gaining too much too fast and getting cramps.
You gotta be around 240 by now I would think??

**Mudge** · 12-24-2003, 02:16 PM

The tren was good, but neither the tren or prop put alot of weight on me. I had started out actually after dieting all the way down to 210 on a 2300-2400 calorie a day diet. Most of what I do have now versus previous is strength, not size. I have been 240 before, in worse shape (plenty of water) and I miss that little bit of size that I had before, but I will find it again.

I put on about 2 inches on my waist which is why I am holding my calories where they are. About the only problems I had with the tren/dbol combination were mean ass back pumps on SLDL day, I would routinely have to lie on the ground for a few minutes at a time after those sessions, and even putting the 45 pound plates back was a bytch.

At my bodyweight though, I dont think 30mg of dbol does much other than the strength and pumps, this was one of several reasons I wanted to see what drol could do for me.

Yes its a good amount of gear, as long as the sides remain low/liveable then I will keep pounding away. I was always running low doses of test and not much else previously, so this time I'm going further is about what it comes down to. I was running 580mg test for my last cycle and went through 2g of fina, that was all I ran, nothing else.

Once I find what works for me best, I will probably always be a 1-2 injectable and 1 oral kind of guy, not 50 different compounds and not too much rotation within a single cycle.

1) Test
2) ____
3) and drol or dbol

maddog1 · 12-24-2003, 02:28 PM

Its a good idea to keep the cals down if you were gaining girthage around the mid-section. If you are big on protein focus your cals there. I'll be working on a 15 # turkey all weekend. The tren is definitely solid stuff. I had a hard time sleeping the first week, but sleep great now. I have to do a few last minute things, Have a great holiday my man. It'll be a good time to get in some extended workouts.

**Mudge** · 12-24-2003, 02:30 PM

True, I respond very well to near-keto style diets. I was eating as much as 4 pounds of meat a day, I can digest the chicken breast much easier than the red meat I have currently which is a first for me as usually I have no problems on it. Now that I have balanced my diet out a bit more I can eat without indigestion.

Whenever I run tren again I will try 100mg ED or a 200mg EOD plan, I liked it better at those doses.

Mikhal · 12-28-2003, 08:42 PM

http://www.lab-corp.com/ http://www.teamliferesearch.com/horm...ethylated.html Yo , Mudge you most likey are up on these, but on the outside chance that you ain't ,feel these. Try'n to be on point homey! Happy whatever everybody is into! Peace

**Mudge** · 12-28-2003, 08:52 PM

7a-OHN looks interesting, but unfortunately I dont like TeamLife's pricing. His accutane is costly as well, I'm cheap when it serves me, which is most of the time. I have too many hobbies to splurge on every one of them without using my brain and finding a bargain

If domestic powders were more plentiful I'd be making virtually everything at home, for research purposes only of course.

biggreenlizardk · 12-28-2003, 09:19 PM

So, the 1-Testosterone Cypionate 50ml 50mg/ml that lab-corp is a sterile injectable, what is the suggested dosage? Same as if one were doing test?

12-21-2003, 12:09 PM	#1
BadGuy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4	crazy motherfu@$er at my gym theres this guy who did a cycle of sust for 11 weeks gained alot of weight, then dropped the sust and jumped on tren with test suspension and lost weight, then he jumped on anadrol only taking 200 to 400 mgs a day and blew up like crazy and his bench jumped up 80 or so more lbs that is some crazy shit and hes not even a pro had to share it later

12-21-2003, 12:16 PM	#2
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	Sounds pretty insane. These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

12-21-2003, 12:22 PM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	Anadrol is one of the top strength and water retention steroids, but 200-400mg by itself? Good way to lose it all coming off. If M1T works as well as anadrol though like everyone says, I'm going to stock up like a mofo because its way cheaper. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

12-21-2003, 12:46 PM	#5
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	I have seen many gearheads get .8-1.0 pounds a day on it. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

12-21-2003, 12:54 PM	#7
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	Its sold at alot of places, if you visit ANY gear board you will hear of it being added to cycles. I am extremely wary of legal stuff because standard 1-Test did DICK for me at the suggested dose, but this is being backed by everyone big and small. Like I said, it sounds like anadrol all the way around, strength and size. There are posters in the supplements forum here, you should find plenty on it, for strength and size info. I know for me, Anadrol @ 100mg a day put 20 pounds on my bench in 12 days. I bought my M1T at Milleniumfitness.com 80x10mg, there is a place 90x10mg for $40, posted in the supplements forum. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

12-21-2003, 12:33 PM	#4
BadGuy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4	i doubt m1t is as strong as anadrol especially if its available online legally

12-21-2003, 12:50 PM	#6
BadGuy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4	how about strength gains on m1t? its sold by power nutrition right?

12-21-2003, 12:58 PM	#8
BadGuy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4	thanks mudge ill check it out

12-21-2003, 01:06 PM	#9
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	Seriously, if anyone puts thier nose to legals its me, I'm giving it a shot - hopefully my stuff arrives this week.

12-21-2003, 01:12 PM	#10
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	Kilosports is now 90x10mg for $40. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

12-21-2003, 01:42 PM	#11
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	Mike will have it cheaper. For me, I compare M 1T to tren, as far as body composition changes, but I had little strength gains off of it. Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-21-2003, 01:55 PM	#12
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	That makes sense with what I hear about injectable 1T also, I will have to see for myself.

12-21-2003, 10:02 PM	#14
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	I dunno http://www.kilosports.com/

12-21-2003, 10:10 PM	#15
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	As for the injectable 1-T Cyp, I love it. Give me it over EQ anyday, mg for mg. Leans you up impressively like tren, without a change in diet. I ran 1 gram a week with crazy results. I got down to about 7% bf. Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-21-2003, 11:16 PM	#17
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	bro i know how to shop around i can barely believe its that cheap tho....... im still rubbing my eyes

12-22-2003, 01:29 AM	#18
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	mike from 1fat400 will have 60 5 mg pills for under $30, probaly closer to $20. FYI, the powder can be had for $12 per gram. Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-22-2003, 01:46 AM	#19
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	TeamLife wants $90 a gram, ouch.

12-22-2003, 10:05 AM	#20
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	Instynct is also selling his long r3 igf-1 for $100 over most others per gram. His 7-aOHN is also ridiculously priced. $300 per gram? That means he would make $300,000 per kilo. I doubt the kilo cost him more than $3,000. Mod @ Bulknutrition Forums Mod @ superiormuscle.com Mod @ steroidsupport.com Designersupps.com Bulknutrition.com Blackstarlabs.com

12-22-2003, 11:42 AM	#21
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	I pay way less for Accutane too, that guy must be making some bank. I swear I feel like I'm about to start doing that stuff

12-24-2003, 01:52 PM	#23
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	This is going to be about a 6 month cycle, so I am going to end up having used numerous items this time. I was running pink thais for awhile yes, not as impressive as some underground stuff I ran before, tis life. I was only using 30mg a day though, good pumps. This was with prop and fina, I went through a 4g kit of fina starting out with 100mg a day but killed that after a week or two because of sleep loss. Prop @ 100mg a day. I actually just killed off some anadrol, but I question the actual potency of the product. While I picked up strength I picked up ZERO water and no weight whatsoever, not a single pound. I was running 100mg a day. I have green giants on the way also, and if those "do nothing" then I know for sure Anadrol is not for me, being those are the current top dog of the drol world. So I am running M1T as of yesterday, 20mg ED, obviously nothing to report yet. I will start cypionate 900mg and deca 600mg split into two shots weekly along with this. I need the deca for my joints, mostly my elbows. I will also be dropping a certain triceps machine from my workouts because it starts from the stretch position and it just clicked in my brain last night that it was causing me hell. I will be tracking my progress, and I will probably force myself to udpate the diet. Now for some people they want to see what M1T by itself does and thats fabulous, but I'm not about to run 1 compound only, it is going to be hard enough staring at the greens and not being able to touch them. I will run M1T for the first week at 20mg, if I am not satisfied I will try 30mg, if I'm still not satisfied - then I may drop them altogether and go back to the drol. I had 200 pink thais, so yes they are all gone.

12-24-2003, 02:04 PM	#24
maddog1 Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 313	Damn, that is a serious load of gear to be processing through your system, but you know what you're doing so I wouldn't have any qualms about it. If you just started the M1T and haven't started the Deca, you'll have a few weeks to see what it does by "itself", since you are switching up the test and dropping the Tren. You went through 200 pinks wow. I had to stop after about 35, I was gaining too much too fast and getting cramps. You gotta be around 240 by now I would think?? Success is measured not by the position that one has reached in life, rather by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed. Booker T. Washington

12-24-2003, 02:16 PM	#25
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	The tren was good, but neither the tren or prop put alot of weight on me. I had started out actually after dieting all the way down to 210 on a 2300-2400 calorie a day diet. Most of what I do have now versus previous is strength, not size. I have been 240 before, in worse shape (plenty of water) and I miss that little bit of size that I had before, but I will find it again. I put on about 2 inches on my waist which is why I am holding my calories where they are. About the only problems I had with the tren/dbol combination were mean ass back pumps on SLDL day, I would routinely have to lie on the ground for a few minutes at a time after those sessions, and even putting the 45 pound plates back was a bytch. At my bodyweight though, I dont think 30mg of dbol does much other than the strength and pumps, this was one of several reasons I wanted to see what drol could do for me. Yes its a good amount of gear, as long as the sides remain low/liveable then I will keep pounding away. I was always running low doses of test and not much else previously, so this time I'm going further is about what it comes down to. I was running 580mg test for my last cycle and went through 2g of fina, that was all I ran, nothing else. Once I find what works for me best, I will probably always be a 1-2 injectable and 1 oral kind of guy, not 50 different compounds and not too much rotation within a single cycle. 1) Test 2) ____ 3) and drol or dbol

12-24-2003, 02:28 PM	#26
maddog1 Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 313	Its a good idea to keep the cals down if you were gaining girthage around the mid-section. If you are big on protein focus your cals there. I'll be working on a 15 # turkey all weekend. The tren is definitely solid stuff. I had a hard time sleeping the first week, but sleep great now. I have to do a few last minute things, Have a great holiday my man. It'll be a good time to get in some extended workouts. Success is measured not by the position that one has reached in life, rather by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed. Booker T. Washington

12-24-2003, 02:30 PM	#27
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	True, I respond very well to near-keto style diets. I was eating as much as 4 pounds of meat a day, I can digest the chicken breast much easier than the red meat I have currently which is a first for me as usually I have no problems on it. Now that I have balanced my diet out a bit more I can eat without indigestion. Whenever I run tren again I will try 100mg ED or a 200mg EOD plan, I liked it better at those doses.

12-28-2003, 08:42 PM	#28
Mikhal Jamaican Rude Boy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tha HOOD ! Posts: 805 Photos: 5	http://www.lab-corp.com/ http://www.teamliferesearch.com/horm...ethylated.html Yo , Mudge you most likey are up on these, but on the outside chance that you ain't ,feel these. Try'n to be on point homey! Happy whatever everybody is into! Peace I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-28-2003, 08:52 PM	#29
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	7a-OHN looks interesting, but unfortunately I dont like TeamLife's pricing. His accutane is costly as well, I'm cheap when it serves me, which is most of the time. I have too many hobbies to splurge on every one of them without using my brain and finding a bargain If domestic powders were more plentiful I'd be making virtually everything at home, for research purposes only of course. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

12-28-2003, 09:19 PM	#30
biggreenlizardk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3	So, the 1-Testosterone Cypionate 50ml 50mg/ml that lab-corp is a sterile injectable, what is the suggested dosage? Same as if one were doing test?

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