Power Rabbit

ya kick is a bad word....my bad

Mudge

Nah we all say kick in, but its not like you suddenly put 20 pounds on your bench overnight or 10 pounds in a day, but you sure as hell should gain WAY faster on a first cycle than naturally.

After 6 months or so of natural training, I dont know anyone who puts 10 pounds on thier bench weekly, make sense right? Now that is what I call kick, but its not like you put 50 on in a week. Still this puts me (us) so far above natural that I feel freaking like a god among men.

I see guys cranking out reps with 115 on the bench, and I load up 3 plates. I see guys doing shrugs with 135 pounds, and I load up 3 plates for 20 easy reps

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Power Rabbit

heh good call bro:-)

jeb

do you all know if i'm taking propecia to prevent hair loss does

prevent that to gain muscle while on cycle?????

Power Rabbit

alot of people take propecia while on cycle. I think if it did anything..it would be minimal

Mudge

Did someone just tell you to take it and you didn't know why?

I doubt it affects gains, dont see how.

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prolangtum

blocking too much DHT can be detrimental, just like blocking too much estrogen can be

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Mudge

Absorutery.

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themadmexican25

if you are going to use deca why not use NORANDREN 200

Mudge

Deca is deca.

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themadmexican25

true, true

jeb

Mudge, ok after i finish this cycle of 8 weeks which I'm deprerate

to finish it to start the new one, my PCT i'm going to start it at 2.5

days at a low dose which is 10mg ed in the first week then the

second 20ed????? how long do i have to wait to start the other

cycle?ok so....

i'm doing a 12 week cycle of sus 500/w and dbol 20mg for 6

weeks, is that a decent cycle???? i was doing 250 for 8 by itself,

next week i'll get my last shot.

Power Rabbit

time on=time off is a rule I like....

jeb

what do you mean? to stay 8 weeks off? but still working out right and eating right? everything the same but off cycle right?

Mudge

Wait 2-3 weeks before you begin PCT, you have to wait for the half life of the drug to lower it enough to even begin being able to recouperate.

Yes you still lift during your time off, it just means no HPTA suppressive drugs.

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jeb

that's what i'm going to do then, so... after i start my PCT

how many weeks do i wait to start my new cycle? I feel like my

cycle that i'm going to finish was a shitty cycle though, I'm kind of

dissapointed, but i've got from 187 to 198 11lbs so far i still have

two more weeks which is this week and next week on juice, but i'll

see if i can get like 5 more lbs because i'm pretty sure i have a lot

of water.

jeb

what do you all think?

Mudge

8-12 weeks or more as you feel neccessary for complete recouperation.

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jeb

what is it feel to recouperate, or how would i feel on my post cycle

fatige?

Mudge

I go by libido, if you get a blood test though try to recall how you feel all around and that will help future cycles.

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jeb

Mudge can you please delete one of the comments that i put here, (12-28-2003 01:46 PM) thanks.

jeb

comment 19

jeb

i mean 20 the one that I mentioned mexico, it's a long paragraph.

Mudge

Post #19, got it.

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jeb

thanks i appreciate it bro.

jeb

Mudge how is it going dude?

hey this is my last week of my cycle, I still haven't decided if I

should get the deca at 400 cycle with dbol of the sust250 at 500

with dbol, which one of this cycles have you seen the best

results ? hey another thing Mudge you know what happened to

dude? well for drinking to much protein shakes I started to shit

pellets dude it got to the point that i got my ass sore and a little

bit of blood , i couldn't

even wipe my ass comfortable but i had to anyways, so i stop

eating like meat and the shakes for now, but i will start my diet

again in a couple of days, my buddy told me that happened to

him as well but just to put fiber on my diet to digest everything smooth.

Mudge

Meat doesn't affect me much other than possible stomach discomfort, but I dont seem to need much fiber in my diet, a little oatmeal does me just fine. I can just about live off meat and nothing else (in terms of going to the bathroom).

I would much rather do sust/dbol than deca/dbol.

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jeb

I love meat, but i think the shakes makes you sometimes feel like

kind of constipated. I heard that deca shuts you down big time

(can't get it up), anyhow how many weeks should i do this cycle?

12 is a decent cycle? i was thinking running d-bol 25-30mg/ed for

4 to 6wk.

Mudge

I know of people that get gassy or diahrea from shakes, I have never heard of constipation. Of all the genetic goodness that I dont have, I can eat or drink just about anything without problems.

First cycle? 8-12 wks is common, dbol for 4-6 is cool.

Get more fiber in your diet if you are constipated, and/or add olive oil to those shakes, that will loosen you right up so be carefull with it.

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themadmexican25

I take glycerlean and its pretty good