Mudge - Please give your opinion

bkw1966 · 01-02-2004, 07:21 AM

I have settled in on my next cycle and would like your opinion.

Sust - 250mg every 6 days x 10
dbol - 30mg ed for duration
Prov - 50mg ed to extend out 1 week beyond last inj
Clomid - start 2 weeks after last inj
Tribulus - start immediately after last inj and continue for 4 weeks

Going to use 23g 1.5 inch for inj. Will start in about 1 month.

**Mudge** · 01-02-2004, 08:12 AM

A little low on the test (291/wk), but my own first cycle was low and had no dbol. I prefer nolvadex over clomid, but if thats what you have go with it. Tribulus so far as I know is worthless(?)

You are doing ass shots I suppose? I use 25g these days but 23g are fine. I have never used the proviron and dont see the need for it really...

bkw1966 · 01-02-2004, 08:23 AM

The proviron helps keep a nice hard look, even while on dbol, cuts down on water retention, i like the look. Would prefer to use 25g, was concerned maybe to small, yes will do ass shots. Will I inject 250mg at one time, or should it be split up into two inj. I understood tribulus to help promote test production.

**Mudge** · 01-02-2004, 08:41 AM

I'm doing 3cc injections with 25g, its not always fun but its not too small with sustanon.

Tribulus is bunk for starting test production from what I believe I've seen, been posted at least twice in the supplements forum... If it did work you dont want to run it right away because you still have natural test replaced with external test, during which time trying to kick start a recouperation of natural production is a waste of time. HCG would be great for a week or so if you notice nad shrinkage though, or through the cycle 500iu twice a week.

With only a 1cc injection I'd stay 1 shot a week, although one issue with sustanon is propionate esters, making it a bad choice for non EOD shots.

prolangtum · 01-02-2004, 09:13 AM

blood levels will be more stable with a single ester, I would choos Eth or Cyp. I would also run the dbol no longer than 6 weeks.

Power Rabbit · 01-02-2004, 10:25 AM

Yea your test levels will jump around abit with sust if ur gonna jab once a week...

01-02-2004, 07:21 AM	#1
bkw1966 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 19 Photos: 1	Mudge - Please give your opinion BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I have settled in on my next cycle and would like your opinion. Sust - 250mg every 6 days x 10 dbol - 30mg ed for duration Prov - 50mg ed to extend out 1 week beyond last inj Clomid - start 2 weeks after last inj Tribulus - start immediately after last inj and continue for 4 weeks Going to use 23g 1.5 inch for inj. Will start in about 1 month.

01-02-2004, 08:12 AM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	A little low on the test (291/wk), but my own first cycle was low and had no dbol. I prefer nolvadex over clomid, but if thats what you have go with it. Tribulus so far as I know is worthless(?) You are doing ass shots I suppose? I use 25g these days but 23g are fine. I have never used the proviron and dont see the need for it really...
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01-02-2004, 08:41 AM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	I'm doing 3cc injections with 25g, its not always fun but its not too small with sustanon. Tribulus is bunk for starting test production from what I believe I've seen, been posted at least twice in the supplements forum... If it did work you dont want to run it right away because you still have natural test replaced with external test, during which time trying to kick start a recouperation of natural production is a waste of time. HCG would be great for a week or so if you notice nad shrinkage though, or through the cycle 500iu twice a week. With only a 1cc injection I'd stay 1 shot a week, although one issue with sustanon is propionate esters, making it a bad choice for non EOD shots.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

01-02-2004, 09:13 AM	#5
prolangtum Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 353	blood levels will be more stable with a single ester, I would choos Eth or Cyp. I would also run the dbol no longer than 6 weeks.
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01-02-2004, 08:23 AM	#3
bkw1966 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 19 Photos: 1	The proviron helps keep a nice hard look, even while on dbol, cuts down on water retention, i like the look. Would prefer to use 25g, was concerned maybe to small, yes will do ass shots. Will I inject 250mg at one time, or should it be split up into two inj. I understood tribulus to help promote test production.

01-02-2004, 10:25 AM	#6
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	Yea your test levels will jump around abit with sust if ur gonna jab once a week...