GHB use?

cash1ove · 01-26-2004, 07:16 PM

hey...
Anyone know anything about results with GHB?!

what dose/frequency/duration(as compared to what bodyweight)?... is it really a cheap alternative to GrowthHormone?

...and also what could be used along with it - or with GrowthHormone - to lose bodyfat while training,, without stimulants, or injections???

Thx to all
-Cash1ove

nikegurl · 01-26-2004, 07:28 PM

i used it 10 years ago when it was legal and sold at my gym. incidentally it was a powder then.

but now people are making this in their back rooms and acetone is apparently a key ingredient (nail polish remover!)

the original regulated product tuff was to improve sleep quality and hence increase the release of growth hormone. i wouldn't mess with the stuff out there now. it's become a "party" drug and i've seen more than a few people get pretty sick from it.

cash1ove · 01-26-2004, 07:46 PM

alright im new at this. i still need to learn the difference between different steroids and..

say someone like me cannot take stimulants and would prefer not to use needles. while they are pumping away at the weights, what Affordable drugs should they integrate in there to get some HGH(?) and/or weight Loss out of the effort? personally i would like to injest the overall safest drugs the first time around

-Cash1ove

p.s. please excuse my ignorance

but does this belong as a new thread

crackerjack414 · 01-26-2004, 07:48 PM

ghb is not a route u wanna go down trust me on that it starts with G then bain then oxys and whatever else u can get your hands on. ive seen this happen time and time again and personaly feel it doesnt have a place in the body building world

gr81 · 01-26-2004, 07:51 PM

steroids are not stimulants bro. Don't worry about the GH release either. From your posts it is completely confusing as to what you are trying to ask or what your goals are. Maybe if you clarify in more detail we could help. Are you lookin to run a cycle of anabolic steroids or what? not being rude at all, just confused...?!

gr81 · 01-26-2004, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crackerjack414
ghb is not a route u wanna go down trust me on that it starts with G then bain then oxys and whatever else u can get your hands on. ive seen this happen time and time again and personaly feel it doesnt have a place in the body building world

hye now, whats wrong with the oxys huh? lol. Cracker is right. I know more than my share of BBs that use and abuse every single one of those drugs. Leaving the recreational drugs out of the picture for the most part and you will be much better off.

plouffe · 01-26-2004, 08:03 PM

I wouldn't find using it for some relaxation... relieve some muscle tension....

cash1ove · 01-26-2004, 08:07 PM

OK to answer your question fully i am 32 and 220#, was once into weights a great deal from 18-23yrs of age with great results but, *bodyfat has Always been a struggle. This time around i would like to start out nice and easy - but at this age i am leaning a bit *more in the direction of bodyfat reduction. For so many reasons i heard about, i always wanted some HGH but heard it was too much $$$. Also i Cannot take stimulants or caffiene of Any sort because they make my head feel like its going to burst like a ripe tomato

-Cash1ove

Evil ANT · 01-26-2004, 08:25 PM

Stay away from taking anything at all if you're just trying to lose bodyfat. Step up the cardio some and you'll see results.

cash1ove · 01-26-2004, 08:46 PM

no as i just wrote in the paragraph i dont Only want to lose bodyfat.

I simply said it has Always been an obstacle and i wish to benefit from the kinds of things i am going to swallow anyway, to work out.

makes sense right? I used to fry up so much effort fighting bodyfat that by the time i got down to serious lifting, i began to feel overtrained.

is it unimaginable to get more GH in my blood without buying GH specifically?

is it impossible to combine these with safe steroids for a first-time cycle?

can this cycle be designed to reduce bodyfat?

can all this be done without stimulants or needles.

this is a steroid board, i post something about lifting and losing fat and you tell me not to take steroids.. go figure ;]

gr81 · 01-26-2004, 08:57 PM

what do you mean safe steroids. Its not like there are two catagories of safe drugs and non safe drugs. it isn't that cut and dry man. You should not be taking steroids, only for the simple fact taht you know nothing about them. Also you can easily accomlpish the goals you have without them. If all you are looking to do is cut up more or less, do taht with your diet. YOu certainly have no business thinking about the Growth hormone either. You seem to think that getting cut is all about teh GH or some shit. Not the case. You don't take anabolics to get cut, you use them to get big bro. Losing fat is the easy part. Yes ti can be done without needles ro drugs, its called being strict and dedicated abpout your diet. You need to go to the diet section and start posting there b/c thats what is gonna get you there, not the anabolics. You obviously have some preconcieved ideas about the drugs you speak of that are just simply silly myths. get the diet squared away first and foremost

**Mudge** · 01-26-2004, 09:38 PM

Some people have died from it and most "smart" sources have gotten rid of it to avoid unwanted attention.

Quote:

can this cycle be designed to reduce bodyfat?

Steroids dont reduce bodyfat, diet does. Remove 1k calories from your daily diet if you want to lose ~2 pounds a week. If you are not counting calories, that is your first step.

Then look at the type and amount of your carbohydrate intake. Basically, you should be posting in the diet forum, not here.

Good luck

cash1ove · 01-26-2004, 10:25 PM

thanks, some points well taken but you sound like you are talking to your son.

gr81 wrote:
> what do you mean safe steroids. Its not like there
> are two catagories of safe drugs and non safe drugs.
> it isn't that cut and dry man.

what i meant is safeR or milder but didnt think it reqrd an explain. my bad

> You should not be taking steroids, only for the simple
> fact taht you know nothing about them.

that is the most synergistically stupid thing i have read all night. i am here to research it, Then take the steroids yah Mulah...

> Also you can easily accomlpish the goals you
> have without them.

yea yea yea i think most people reading have trained natural...When did you figure that out? You must have started doing the stuff the first time you grabbed a dumbbell. Still, not all people and goals are built the same. Many people are not even capable of any of this. im a bit older now and suffered some serious injuries and not gonna avoid these drugs just because some stranger states that they are not neccesary; lets face it if they were necc, you would all have a prescription, so dont you think its a bit hypocritical to advise someone else not to explore them? haha look at me im justifying steroid education to a user who has little more than a 50gm of knowledge of me but tells me not to use.

this reminds me too much of usenet. you go on and post a few simple facts and a few simple questions and you get back advice on how to RUN YOUR LIFE hahahha. internet authoritarians by the Millions - where authoritarianism leads to ignorance

cash1ove · 01-26-2004, 10:31 PM

thanks, some points well taken but you sound like you are talking out your arse, to your son.

gr81 wrote:
> what do you mean safe steroids. Its not like there
> are two catagories of safe drugs and non safe drugs.
> it isn't that cut and dry man.

what i meant is safeR or milder but didnt think it reqrd an explain. my bad

> You should not be taking steroids, only for the simple
> fact taht you know nothing about them.

that is the most synergistically stupid thing i have read all night. i am here to research it, Then take the steroids yah Mulah...

> Also you can easily accomlpish the goals you
> have without them.

yea yea yea i think most people reading have trained natural...When did you figure that out? You must have started doing the stuff the first time you grabbed a dumbbell. Still, not all people and goals are built the same. Many people are not even capable of lifting. im a bit older now and suffered some serious injuries and not going to avoid these drugs just because some stranger states that they are not neccesary; lets face it if they were necc, you would all have a prescription, so dont you think its a bit hypocritical to advise someone else not to explore them? haha look at me im justifying steroid education to a user who has little more than 50gm of knowledge about me but tells me not to use.

this reminds me too much of usenet. you go on and post a few simple facts or a few simple questions and you get back advice on how to RUN YOUR LIFE hahahha. internet authoritarians by the Millions - where authoritarianism leads to ignorance. where are your credentials anyway, 50% of online users misrepresent who they are according to some major study - and i believe it

gr81 · 01-26-2004, 10:38 PM

hey you know what, you don't know the first thing about the drugs, let alone enough to try and speak on me. I could give less of a fuck about you, in fact why don't you load up on ghb and pass out from teh shit since you nkow so much. This is not the attitude to take with me if you want to be helped out. I sound like I am talkin to a child b/c intellectually you are a child from the statements you ahev made about teh drugs. Thats right you shouldn't be taking the anabolics if you haven't researched them, and I don't mean 1 night of reading either. It takes lots and lots of research to gather an understanding of certain concepts, concepst which you obviously have no grasp on. So if you want help, close your fuckin mouth and listen to those who know. If you want to be a pompous motha fucka who supposedly knows it all even though you are asking pretty simple questions go right ahead. Go right ahead down the path you are on and see where it gets you

**Mudge** · 01-26-2004, 11:14 PM

I am going to go ahead and close this, almost everyone has recognized GHB as an abused and dangerous substance that has no real use. I moderate on a 14 thousand member board and the rule there is that this is a recreational drug and therefore wont be allowed.

Some have used it and spoke of no real benefit, so we are leaving GHB to the party people.

hGH is not too expensive if you know where to look, but you are still going to spend $200 or so a month.

01-26-2004, 07:16 PM	#1
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	GHB use? hey... Anyone know anything about results with GHB?! what dose/frequency/duration(as compared to what bodyweight)?... is it really a cheap alternative to GrowthHormone? ...and also what could be used along with it - or with GrowthHormone - to lose bodyfat while training,, without stimulants, or injections??? Thx to all -Cash1ove
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01-26-2004, 07:28 PM	#2
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	i used it 10 years ago when it was legal and sold at my gym. incidentally it was a powder then. but now people are making this in their back rooms and acetone is apparently a key ingredient (nail polish remover!) the original regulated product tuff was to improve sleep quality and hence increase the release of growth hormone. i wouldn't mess with the stuff out there now. it's become a "party" drug and i've seen more than a few people get pretty sick from it.
	If you want to achieve things that others can't... You have to do things that others won't.

01-26-2004, 07:46 PM	#3
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	ok other ways alright im new at this. i still need to learn the difference between different steroids and.. say someone like me cannot take stimulants and would prefer not to use needles. while they are pumping away at the weights, what Affordable drugs should they integrate in there to get some HGH(?) and/or weight Loss out of the effort? personally i would like to injest the overall safest drugs the first time around -Cash1ove p.s. please excuse my ignorance but does this belong as a new thread
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01-26-2004, 07:51 PM	#5
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	steroids are not stimulants bro. Don't worry about the GH release either. From your posts it is completely confusing as to what you are trying to ask or what your goals are. Maybe if you clarify in more detail we could help. Are you lookin to run a cycle of anabolic steroids or what? not being rude at all, just confused...?!
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01-26-2004, 08:03 PM	#7
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	I wouldn't find using it for some relaxation... relieve some muscle tension....
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01-26-2004, 07:48 PM	#4
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	ghb is not a route u wanna go down trust me on that it starts with G then bain then oxys and whatever else u can get your hands on. ive seen this happen time and time again and personaly feel it doesnt have a place in the body building world

01-26-2004, 08:07 PM	#8
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	Alternate routes OK to answer your question fully i am 32 and 220#, was once into weights a great deal from 18-23yrs of age with great results but, bodyfat has Always been a struggle. This time around i would like to start out nice and easy - but at this age i am leaning a bit more in the direction of bodyfat reduction. For so many reasons i heard about, i always wanted some HGH but heard it was too much $$$. Also i Cannot take stimulants or caffiene of Any sort because they make my head feel like its going to burst like a ripe tomato -Cash1ove
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01-26-2004, 08:25 PM	#9
Evil ANT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 629 Photos: 3	Stay away from taking anything at all if you're just trying to lose bodyfat. Step up the cardio some and you'll see results.

01-26-2004, 08:46 PM	#10
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	please reread no as i just wrote in the paragraph i dont Only want to lose bodyfat. I simply said it has Always been an obstacle and i wish to benefit from the kinds of things i am going to swallow anyway, to work out. makes sense right? I used to fry up so much effort fighting bodyfat that by the time i got down to serious lifting, i began to feel overtrained. is it unimaginable to get more GH in my blood without buying GH specifically? is it impossible to combine these with safe steroids for a first-time cycle? can this cycle be designed to reduce bodyfat? can all this be done without stimulants or needles. this is a steroid board, i post something about lifting and losing fat and you tell me not to take steroids.. go figure ;]
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01-26-2004, 08:57 PM	#11
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	what do you mean safe steroids. Its not like there are two catagories of safe drugs and non safe drugs. it isn't that cut and dry man. You should not be taking steroids, only for the simple fact taht you know nothing about them. Also you can easily accomlpish the goals you have without them. If all you are looking to do is cut up more or less, do taht with your diet. YOu certainly have no business thinking about the Growth hormone either. You seem to think that getting cut is all about teh GH or some shit. Not the case. You don't take anabolics to get cut, you use them to get big bro. Losing fat is the easy part. Yes ti can be done without needles ro drugs, its called being strict and dedicated abpout your diet. You need to go to the diet section and start posting there b/c thats what is gonna get you there, not the anabolics. You obviously have some preconcieved ideas about the drugs you speak of that are just simply silly myths. get the diet squared away first and foremost
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

01-26-2004, 10:25 PM	#13
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	thanks, some points well taken but you sound like you are talking to your son. gr81 wrote: > what do you mean safe steroids. Its not like there > are two catagories of safe drugs and non safe drugs. > it isn't that cut and dry man. what i meant is safeR or milder but didnt think it reqrd an explain. my bad > You should not be taking steroids, only for the simple > fact taht you know nothing about them. that is the most synergistically stupid thing i have read all night. i am here to research it, Then take the steroids yah Mulah... > Also you can easily accomlpish the goals you > have without them. yea yea yea i think most people reading have trained natural...When did you figure that out? You must have started doing the stuff the first time you grabbed a dumbbell. Still, not all people and goals are built the same. Many people are not even capable of any of this. im a bit older now and suffered some serious injuries and not gonna avoid these drugs just because some stranger states that they are not neccesary; lets face it if they were necc, you would all have a prescription, so dont you think its a bit hypocritical to advise someone else not to explore them? haha look at me im justifying steroid education to a user who has little more than a 50gm of knowledge of me but tells me not to use. this reminds me too much of usenet. you go on and post a few simple facts and a few simple questions and you get back advice on how to RUN YOUR LIFE hahahha. internet authoritarians by the Millions - where authoritarianism leads to ignorance
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11

01-26-2004, 10:31 PM	#14
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11	thanks, some points well taken but you sound like you are talking out your arse, to your son. gr81 wrote: > what do you mean safe steroids. Its not like there > are two catagories of safe drugs and non safe drugs. > it isn't that cut and dry man. what i meant is safeR or milder but didnt think it reqrd an explain. my bad > You should not be taking steroids, only for the simple > fact taht you know nothing about them. that is the most synergistically stupid thing i have read all night. i am here to research it, Then take the steroids yah Mulah... > Also you can easily accomlpish the goals you > have without them. yea yea yea i think most people reading have trained natural...When did you figure that out? You must have started doing the stuff the first time you grabbed a dumbbell. Still, not all people and goals are built the same. Many people are not even capable of lifting. im a bit older now and suffered some serious injuries and not going to avoid these drugs just because some stranger states that they are not neccesary; lets face it if they were necc, you would all have a prescription, so dont you think its a bit hypocritical to advise someone else not to explore them? haha look at me im justifying steroid education to a user who has little more than 50gm of knowledge about me but tells me not to use. this reminds me too much of usenet. you go on and post a few simple facts or a few simple questions and you get back advice on how to RUN YOUR LIFE hahahha. internet authoritarians by the Millions - where authoritarianism leads to ignorance. where are your credentials anyway, 50% of online users misrepresent who they are according to some major study - and i believe it
cash1ove Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11

01-26-2004, 10:38 PM	#15
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	hey you know what, you don't know the first thing about the drugs, let alone enough to try and speak on me. I could give less of a fuck about you, in fact why don't you load up on ghb and pass out from teh shit since you nkow so much. This is not the attitude to take with me if you want to be helped out. I sound like I am talkin to a child b/c intellectually you are a child from the statements you ahev made about teh drugs. Thats right you shouldn't be taking the anabolics if you haven't researched them, and I don't mean 1 night of reading either. It takes lots and lots of research to gather an understanding of certain concepts, concepst which you obviously have no grasp on. So if you want help, close your fuckin mouth and listen to those who know. If you want to be a pompous motha fucka who supposedly knows it all even though you are asking pretty simple questions go right ahead. Go right ahead down the path you are on and see where it gets you
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

01-26-2004, 11:14 PM	#16
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	I am going to go ahead and close this, almost everyone has recognized GHB as an abused and dangerous substance that has no real use. I moderate on a 14 thousand member board and the rule there is that this is a recreational drug and therefore wont be allowed. Some have used it and spoke of no real benefit, so we are leaving GHB to the party people. hGH is not too expensive if you know where to look, but you are still going to spend $200 or so a month.

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