Fina

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 10:03 AM

If i wanted to throw in Fina for the remainder of my cycle... would i take out the equipoise.... or just add it 2 it... because i can get my hands on some and i have never tried it..... Figured it would be a good idea since it has Such a short halflife... and ED injections rite? 100mg a day? or is that 2 much... info would be great

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 10:11 AM

50mg's a day i meant

**dg806** · 01-28-2004, 10:35 AM

most do 75mg/EOD

**Mudge** · 01-28-2004, 11:27 AM

ED or EOD, I would go EOD unless you are completely anal about blood levels. Most setups are 75mg/ml, so 50mg would be a pain to administer anyway.

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 01:25 PM

well nah... this shit i got is 200mg/ML or i can get 100mg/ML

**Mudge** · 01-28-2004, 01:31 PM

Is that tren acetate or enanthate? If its acetate EOD is fine, 100mg.

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 10:28 PM

ACETATE

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 10:29 PM

what weeks should i use it if i was doing a 16 weeks cycle?? should i keep my dosage of EQ at 600mg's and my test still a 1G?

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 10:43 PM

another Question.... can i switch to enthante for the last weeks?? Would i still be makin immediate gains or will that have to build up in my blood also?? i need some Quik replies

**Mudge** · 01-28-2004, 10:55 PM

It takes a couple weeks for blood levels to build, but you can do whatever you want really. You can use fina any old time, but being fast acting it would probably at least be nice in the beginning to get things moving. If you have no HCG though you may want to save it for the end.

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 10:56 PM

hey... what about switching to prop.... because i can get a prop/Tren Mix

**Mudge** · 01-28-2004, 11:11 PM

For some reason people say prop/tren is painfull, I mixed it at home just fine but it wasn't 100/100 per ml, it was obviously 2ml. Prop/tren is great, I ran it ED for 40 days, then switched to cypionate/fina.

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 11:13 PM

well listin.... tell me what u think... I;m going to switch to Prop and Fina With 600mg's of equipoise..... now for PCT i would discontinue EQ around week 13 or 14... and continue with the Prop and Fina up too 16 weeks... then start my PCT 2 or 3 days after last shot.... what u think?

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 11:14 PM

i'll Buy them seperate... what would be a good dosage... since i was on 1gram of test

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 11:21 PM

cmon i need to know .... tryin to get everything worked out... i want be able to sleep tonite if i dont!

Just a guy · 01-28-2004, 11:51 PM

someone??

DEEPSEA · 01-28-2004, 11:57 PM

IMO..run the EQ till 14..more time the better w/ EQ.
50-75mg ED of TREN. (try the 75 & if sides are tough...drop it to 50mg.) Personally, 75mg/ed is perfect for me ...anything over that & I get too uncomfortable.
What kind of TEST are u on? TEST is TEST , it is the ester that changes things. I, personally, would stop the EQ & the long-e TEST (if that is waht u are using) & switch to PROP/TREN for as long as u desire. In order to begin post right after u would need to run it atleast 2-3 weeks after EQ. Otherwise just push-off pct & use the TREN/PROP while u cut (adjust your diet & this is a GREAT combo to cut with) I have run TREN/PROP/WINNY past my long esters till my pct in the past & the results were GREAT.
But that is JMHO

Just a guy · 01-29-2004, 12:02 AM

push off Pct? So explain it a little more for me... how many weeks we talking hear.... im up for it.. if u can help me

Just a guy · 01-29-2004, 12:04 AM

im currently on 1,000mg;s of test Cyp and 600mg's of EQ

DEEPSEA · 01-29-2004, 12:12 AM

All I mean really is extending cycle to reap some benny's from the TREN/PROP. At the least...u would need to run it 2-2 & 1/2 weeks...any less & u would still have to wait some for the pct.
-The recommended time after last shot of EQ is 17-21 days. With the above method..I use the PROP & TREN to "fill this gap" I prefer to juice to the last day possible. The recommended wait for post after PROP & TREN is only 3 days.
So (this sounds confusing as I read it...sorry) what I am saying is preferebly run the EQ 14 weeks. After the EQ (drop the long-e TEST too) & switch right away to TREN/PROP...u can run it for those 17-21 days that u must wait for the EQ to 1/2 itself away at the min. Or if u like how the PROP/TREN is workin for u...run with it...extend till..whenever (I have heard of FINA run for 45 days w/o any problems..but that is extreme) As soon as u decide to stop TREN/PROP (your choice) wait 3 days & begin PCT.
FYI...I always run WINNY with my TREN as a safety. I am a bit leery of progest. gyno.

Hope I explained it correctly.
Again, this is what I have done with GREAT sucess but maybe someone else like MUDGE has a diff. idea.
Good Luck..DS

Just a guy · 01-29-2004, 12:14 AM

err i was thinking about running the Prop and Fina for about 6 weeks.... is that pushing it with the Fina?

DEEPSEA · 01-29-2004, 12:19 AM

DEEPSEA · 01-29-2004, 12:20 AM

BTW..as MUDGE said AWESOME COMBO...I got strong as SH*T!

Just a guy · 01-29-2004, 12:21 AM

I hear that... well i appreciate the help... going to go ahead and get that ordered.... u tha man

DEEPSEA · 01-29-2004, 12:22 AM

Like I said...that is just how I like to do it. ENJOY!

**Mudge** · 01-29-2004, 12:33 AM

I ran 100/100 ED, 700 each a week. After awhile I had to cut the fina down to 75mg or so, I was having sleep issues, for some people it gets better as time wears on. Remember that prop is more potent per mg due to the ester weight.

Ester actual mg/100mg dose
test no ester 100
tren acetate 87
test prop 83
test enanth 72
test cyp 70
test undecan 63

**Mudge** · 01-29-2004, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Just a guy
err i was thinking about running the Prop and Fina for about 6 weeks.... is that pushing it with the Fina?

Only you can answer that. Some people get sides, some dont, some like me have less. I had sleep loss and mild aggression, to the point that I think I flipped off two people driving to work, talk about uncontrollable rage.

Some can handle it, some cant, my sides seem to be pretty low overall on gear.

Or, just run 200 prop and 100 fina EOD, that would put you 700/350.

DEEPSEA · 01-29-2004, 12:37 AM

I got the sleep problems too.
But ..How I DO luv tasting the TREN after u inject..

Just a guy · 01-29-2004, 09:33 PM

ahh shit fellas... Aint fina.. Tren? i Got Trenbolone Acetate... thats the same thing as finaplix rite?

Just a guy · 01-29-2004, 09:33 PM

01-28-2004, 10:03 AM	#1
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	Fina If i wanted to throw in Fina for the remainder of my cycle... would i take out the equipoise.... or just add it 2 it... because i can get my hands on some and i have never tried it..... Figured it would be a good idea since it has Such a short halflife... and ED injections rite? 100mg a day? or is that 2 much... info would be great

01-28-2004, 10:35 AM	#3
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,439	most do 75mg/EOD
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01-28-2004, 11:27 AM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,075 Photos: 1	ED or EOD, I would go EOD unless you are completely anal about blood levels. Most setups are 75mg/ml, so 50mg would be a pain to administer anyway.
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01-28-2004, 10:55 PM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,075 Photos: 1	It takes a couple weeks for blood levels to build, but you can do whatever you want really. You can use fina any old time, but being fast acting it would probably at least be nice in the beginning to get things moving. If you have no HCG though you may want to save it for the end.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

01-28-2004, 11:57 PM	#17
DEEPSEA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EYE OF THE STORM Posts: 58	IMO..run the EQ till 14..more time the better w/ EQ. 50-75mg ED of TREN. (try the 75 & if sides are tough...drop it to 50mg.) Personally, 75mg/ed is perfect for me ...anything over that & I get too uncomfortable. What kind of TEST are u on? TEST is TEST , it is the ester that changes things. I, personally, would stop the EQ & the long-e TEST (if that is waht u are using) & switch to PROP/TREN for as long as u desire. In order to begin post right after u would need to run it atleast 2-3 weeks after EQ. Otherwise just push-off pct & use the TREN/PROP while u cut (adjust your diet & this is a GREAT combo to cut with) I have run TREN/PROP/WINNY past my long esters till my pct in the past & the results were GREAT. But that is JMHO
	SHUT-UP & JUICE RIP TRAPS

01-28-2004, 10:11 AM	#2
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	50mg's a day i meant

01-28-2004, 01:25 PM	#5
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	well nah... this shit i got is 200mg/ML or i can get 100mg/ML

01-28-2004, 01:31 PM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,075 Photos: 1	Is that tren acetate or enanthate? If its acetate EOD is fine, 100mg.

01-28-2004, 10:28 PM	#7
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	ACETATE

01-28-2004, 10:29 PM	#8
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	what weeks should i use it if i was doing a 16 weeks cycle?? should i keep my dosage of EQ at 600mg's and my test still a 1G?

01-28-2004, 10:43 PM	#9
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	another Question.... can i switch to enthante for the last weeks?? Would i still be makin immediate gains or will that have to build up in my blood also?? i need some Quik replies

01-28-2004, 10:56 PM	#11
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	hey... what about switching to prop.... because i can get a prop/Tren Mix

01-28-2004, 11:11 PM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,075 Photos: 1	For some reason people say prop/tren is painfull, I mixed it at home just fine but it wasn't 100/100 per ml, it was obviously 2ml. Prop/tren is great, I ran it ED for 40 days, then switched to cypionate/fina.

01-28-2004, 11:13 PM	#13
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	well listin.... tell me what u think... I;m going to switch to Prop and Fina With 600mg's of equipoise..... now for PCT i would discontinue EQ around week 13 or 14... and continue with the Prop and Fina up too 16 weeks... then start my PCT 2 or 3 days after last shot.... what u think?

01-28-2004, 11:14 PM	#14
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	i'll Buy them seperate... what would be a good dosage... since i was on 1gram of test

01-28-2004, 11:21 PM	#15
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	cmon i need to know .... tryin to get everything worked out... i want be able to sleep tonite if i dont!

01-28-2004, 11:51 PM	#16
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	someone??

01-29-2004, 12:02 AM	#18
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	push off Pct? So explain it a little more for me... how many weeks we talking hear.... im up for it.. if u can help me

01-29-2004, 12:04 AM	#19
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	im currently on 1,000mg;s of test Cyp and 600mg's of EQ

01-29-2004, 12:12 AM	#20
DEEPSEA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EYE OF THE STORM Posts: 58	All I mean really is extending cycle to reap some benny's from the TREN/PROP. At the least...u would need to run it 2-2 & 1/2 weeks...any less & u would still have to wait some for the pct. -The recommended time after last shot of EQ is 17-21 days. With the above method..I use the PROP & TREN to "fill this gap" I prefer to juice to the last day possible. The recommended wait for post after PROP & TREN is only 3 days. So (this sounds confusing as I read it...sorry) what I am saying is preferebly run the EQ 14 weeks. After the EQ (drop the long-e TEST too) & switch right away to TREN/PROP...u can run it for those 17-21 days that u must wait for the EQ to 1/2 itself away at the min. Or if u like how the PROP/TREN is workin for u...run with it...extend till..whenever (I have heard of FINA run for 45 days w/o any problems..but that is extreme) As soon as u decide to stop TREN/PROP (your choice) wait 3 days & begin PCT. FYI...I always run WINNY with my TREN as a safety. I am a bit leery of progest. gyno. Hope I explained it correctly. Again, this is what I have done with GREAT sucess but maybe someone else like MUDGE has a diff. idea. Good Luck..DS
	SHUT-UP & JUICE RIP TRAPS

01-29-2004, 12:14 AM	#21
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	err i was thinking about running the Prop and Fina for about 6 weeks.... is that pushing it with the Fina?

01-29-2004, 12:19 AM	#22
DEEPSEA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EYE OF THE STORM Posts: 58	Nope
	SHUT-UP & JUICE RIP TRAPS

01-29-2004, 12:20 AM	#23
DEEPSEA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EYE OF THE STORM Posts: 58	BTW..as MUDGE said AWESOME COMBO...I got strong as SH*T!
	SHUT-UP & JUICE RIP TRAPS

01-29-2004, 12:21 AM	#24
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	I hear that... well i appreciate the help... going to go ahead and get that ordered.... u tha man

01-29-2004, 12:22 AM	#25
DEEPSEA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EYE OF THE STORM Posts: 58	Like I said...that is just how I like to do it. ENJOY!
	SHUT-UP & JUICE RIP TRAPS

01-29-2004, 12:33 AM	#26
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,075 Photos: 1	I ran 100/100 ED, 700 each a week. After awhile I had to cut the fina down to 75mg or so, I was having sleep issues, for some people it gets better as time wears on. Remember that prop is more potent per mg due to the ester weight. Ester actual mg/100mg dose test no ester 100 tren acetate 87 test prop 83 test enanth 72 test cyp 70 test undecan 63

01-29-2004, 12:37 AM	#28
DEEPSEA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EYE OF THE STORM Posts: 58	I got the sleep problems too. But ..How I DO luv tasting the TREN after u inject..
	SHUT-UP & JUICE RIP TRAPS

01-29-2004, 09:33 PM	#29
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	ahh shit fellas... Aint fina.. Tren? i Got Trenbolone Acetate... thats the same thing as finaplix rite?

01-29-2004, 09:33 PM	#30
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	bump

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