Anabolic Steroids Information For Women

BabsieGirl · 04-13-2004, 04:18 PM

I thought this was interesting....So I'm sharing since we ladies have basically nothing to go by................Here is the link: www.steroidworld.com/women.htm

Anabolic Steroids Information For Women

Women athletes certainly do need to take a different approach to steroid use than males do. There are only a limited number of the drugs listed that a woman would even want to consider. Some examples are Primobolans, Proviron, Nolvadex, Nandrolones, Anavar, Winstrol, and synthetic Growth Hormone. It is important to note that even on the lowest dosages of any of these steroids, women can start to experience virilizing effects. This is because any amount of steroid introduced into the woman’s endocrine system is a serious jolt. Anabolic steroids are synthetic derivatives of male hormones and can cause serious adverse reactions in some women. The most prudent approach to administering anabolic steroids to the female involves the use of low dosages of very low androgenic items. Women obviously do not have to worry about the Gonadotrophic suppression that men do nor do they usually encounter much of a problem with the hepatotoxicity of anabolic steroids. This is because they most often use low dosages of very clean items. Since the most androgenic items tend to be the most toxic to the liver, by avoiding these items women also avoid the liver stress that most men undergo. Women can however benefit from the use of estrogen antagonists. Many women favor the use of Nolvadex and/or Proviron while trying to attain muscularity. Anabolic steroids have been extremely effective for many women athletes who use them to obtain size, strength and endurance. Since the virilizing effects women suffer from using anabolic steroids tend to be permanent, it is prudent to use caution at all times. One of the safer ways that I have seen women use anabolic steroids is to stack two low androgenic items for a period less than six weeks and then take several weeks off of the drugs before coming back to another four or five week cycle and then taking a good two months off of the drugs. Below is an example of a cycle for women. With this pattern, women can watch for adverse reactions which usually occur in proportion to the duration of use by female. The use of Growth Hormone by women has proven to be extremely effective in some cases. Since GH is not an androgenic drug, it does not result in any virilizing effects for women. Growth Hormone greatly increases muscularity primarily by reducing body fat stores in the woman while leaving the lean muscle mass unaltered.

Week 1 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 2 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk
Week 2 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 3 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk
Week 3 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 4 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk
Week 4 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 5 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk
Week 5 - Off
Week 6 - Off
Week 7 - Off
Week 8 - Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk. Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 2 tab/day
Week 9 - Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk. Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 3 tab/day
Week 10 - Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk. Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 4 tab/day
Week 11 - Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 3 tab/day
Week 12 - Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 2 tab/day

Power Rabbit · 04-13-2004, 10:01 PM

id like to maby see a womens gear sub forum pop up on IM like SM's ...allways good to have people that can answer female gear head questions:-)

**Mudge** · 04-13-2004, 10:11 PM

Definitely should have a forum when there is the interest for one, but I would say not enough foot traffic here for that (although it could always come in the future...)

One thing I have liked about this forum is NO sub-forum hell!!!

It is bothersome to go to a BB board and there are 57 forums with 6 sub forums on those sub forums and they are talking about knitting or whatever (joke).

I never liked Fitness Geared very much for that reason, the skin bugs me a tad but doggon I can't stand having to mentally sort through all that. Everything including the kitchen sink with a garbage disposal and blah blah, just complete overkill.

If there is no need for a sub forum, then I think it should probably not be put in place

BabsieGirl · 04-14-2004, 12:19 PM

Here is a sample list of Anabolics including cost:

http://www.steroidworld.com/example.txt

BabsieGirl · 04-14-2004, 12:22 PM

Hey Mudge and or Power Rabbit, (general question for ya) does paying higher cost (from one anabolic to another) necesarily mean it's better/safer?

Why are some of the anabolics in the spreadsheet above so expensive?

btw - I'm not challenging ya

Just wondering myself how all this works and where cost comes in and the reasonings behind it all(cost wise).

Thanks
Babs

**Mudge** · 04-14-2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Hey Mudge and or Power Rabbit, (general question for ya) does paying higher cost (from one anabolic to another) necesarily mean it's better/safer?

Yes and no.

Some people sell underground stuff for DOUBLE what it costs from the source and this is already a high markup over the cost of the raw materials.

So rule #1, cost is dependant by source

#2 What is the brand.

If its American Upjohn etc etc then it will command a higher price BY REPUTATION, and in many cases it is "better" in terms of pain however women are using such low amounts this can be cut with sterile oil and you could use virtually anything.

Also sometimes there is a dosing difference yes, but really you'd have to talk brand vs brand, cost alone is not enough to determine worth...

BabsieGirl · 04-14-2004, 01:07 PM

Thanks Mudge

So, what brands do you recommend we buy and which ones to stay away from?

Power Rabbit · 04-14-2004, 02:08 PM

my guess is you wonder why the anavar primo and female friendly gear is some of the most expensive stuff...its mostly cause most gear a woman would use is the subtle gear that many people like...i think if i could take 100mg of primo ed for the rest of my life i would :-P...

that said things like primo are easy to fake and hard to find...

brand wise, except for a very few things, i totally use UG labs..if ug gear is not palatable to you, then you have to decide what is...

vet quality gear fine with ya? then maby QV or denkall or other mexican stuff are good brands for ya
human grade is your line? Upjohn schering oragonan are solid companies

bottom line is if its legit gear then it dosent matter what company it is...and no matter what you get there is allways a risk about it..ug gear could be dirty...mexican gear could be underdosed ....human grade gear could be faked

**Mudge** · 04-14-2004, 02:16 PM

I would avoid IP, the oils are something of internet infamy, never used them though only tabs.

Mexican vet stuff, used it but the reputation goes downhill as each year passes.

I prefer underground or home made, price/performance etc once in awhile an UG lab is exposed as faking or underdosing. Its more a matter of selling more goods when out of raws than the price of raws themselves. So if someone is never out of stock you might have right to be suspicious.

American stuff like Upjohn has a great reputation but expensive and not carried by many folks. Plus American companies wont turn out many goods in the US that might be medicinally used in other countries, dianabol hasn't been used in the USA since about 1982 if I recall correctly.

Primo is very rare, for whatever reason not many people feel like making it and not all powder sources even carry it. Often times primo is just relabled something else like deca. One UG lab was turning out 200mg/ml primo that I heard was very painfull

I'd judge by brand, ask opinions, there are FAR too many labs to try and cover in a single thread especially since many of us have used between 5 and 15 different brands, that only being a small fraction of what is out there.

BabsieGirl · 04-14-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Power Rabbit
bottom line is if its legit gear then it dosent matter what company it is...and no matter what you get there is allways a risk about it..ug gear could be dirty...mexican gear could be underdosed ....human grade gear could be faked

How do you know it's legit gear, clean or dirty? Are there ways of telling before you inject or swallow?

Speaking of swallowing (on a clean note), I read you can swallow "juice." Have you tried this, or know anyone who has? Would you deam this safe?

Sorry for all the questions....I'm just trying to think of things others may want to ask but are too shy or scared to step forward.

Thank you both for your time and advice. It's VERY much appreciated.

Babs

Power Rabbit · 04-14-2004, 02:26 PM

some things can be swallowed...primo...winny...basically things that are made in oral form aswell as suspended in oil...you cant swollow test, or deca, etc...

you cant really tell if its clean without a lab test...best thing to do is take every precaution you can...buy from a source that is very reputable and you/your friends trust....and filter your gear before you go about useing it...all the gear i own I refiltered with a whatman filter just to be safe...

04-13-2004, 10:11 PM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	Definitely should have a forum when there is the interest for one, but I would say not enough foot traffic here for that (although it could always come in the future...) One thing I have liked about this forum is NO sub-forum hell!!! It is bothersome to go to a BB board and there are 57 forums with 6 sub forums on those sub forums and they are talking about knitting or whatever (joke). I never liked Fitness Geared very much for that reason, the skin bugs me a tad but doggon I can't stand having to mentally sort through all that. Everything including the kitchen sink with a garbage disposal and blah blah, just complete overkill. If there is no need for a sub forum, then I think it should probably not be put in place Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

04-14-2004, 12:19 PM	#4
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Here is a sample list of Anabolics including cost: http://www.steroidworld.com/example.txt Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

04-14-2004, 12:22 PM	#5
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Hey Mudge and or Power Rabbit, (general question for ya) does paying higher cost (from one anabolic to another) necesarily mean it's better/safer? Why are some of the anabolics in the spreadsheet above so expensive? btw - I'm not challenging ya Just wondering myself how all this works and where cost comes in and the reasonings behind it all(cost wise). Thanks Babs Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

04-14-2004, 01:07 PM	#7
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Thanks Mudge So, what brands do you recommend we buy and which ones to stay away from? Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

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04-13-2004, 04:18 PM	#1
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Anabolic Steroids Information For Women I thought this was interesting....So I'm sharing since we ladies have basically nothing to go by................Here is the link: www.steroidworld.com/women.htm Anabolic Steroids Information For Women Women athletes certainly do need to take a different approach to steroid use than males do. There are only a limited number of the drugs listed that a woman would even want to consider. Some examples are Primobolans, Proviron, Nolvadex, Nandrolones, Anavar, Winstrol, and synthetic Growth Hormone. It is important to note that even on the lowest dosages of any of these steroids, women can start to experience virilizing effects. This is because any amount of steroid introduced into the woman’s endocrine system is a serious jolt. Anabolic steroids are synthetic derivatives of male hormones and can cause serious adverse reactions in some women. The most prudent approach to administering anabolic steroids to the female involves the use of low dosages of very low androgenic items. Women obviously do not have to worry about the Gonadotrophic suppression that men do nor do they usually encounter much of a problem with the hepatotoxicity of anabolic steroids. This is because they most often use low dosages of very clean items. Since the most androgenic items tend to be the most toxic to the liver, by avoiding these items women also avoid the liver stress that most men undergo. Women can however benefit from the use of estrogen antagonists. Many women favor the use of Nolvadex and/or Proviron while trying to attain muscularity. Anabolic steroids have been extremely effective for many women athletes who use them to obtain size, strength and endurance. Since the virilizing effects women suffer from using anabolic steroids tend to be permanent, it is prudent to use caution at all times. One of the safer ways that I have seen women use anabolic steroids is to stack two low androgenic items for a period less than six weeks and then take several weeks off of the drugs before coming back to another four or five week cycle and then taking a good two months off of the drugs. Below is an example of a cycle for women. With this pattern, women can watch for adverse reactions which usually occur in proportion to the duration of use by female. The use of Growth Hormone by women has proven to be extremely effective in some cases. Since GH is not an androgenic drug, it does not result in any virilizing effects for women. Growth Hormone greatly increases muscularity primarily by reducing body fat stores in the woman while leaving the lean muscle mass unaltered. Week 1 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 2 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk Week 2 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 3 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk Week 3 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 4 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk Week 4 - Primobolan 5mg/tab, 5 tab/day. Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk Week 5 - Off Week 6 - Off Week 7 - Off Week 8 - Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk. Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 2 tab/day Week 9 - Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk. Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 3 tab/day Week 10 - Deca 100mg/cc, 1/2cc/wk. Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 4 tab/day Week 11 - Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 3 tab/day Week 12 - Winstrol 2 mg/tab, 2 tab/day Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

04-13-2004, 10:01 PM	#2
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	id like to maby see a womens gear sub forum pop up on IM like SM's ...allways good to have people that can answer female gear head questions:-)

04-14-2004, 02:08 PM	#8
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	my guess is you wonder why the anavar primo and female friendly gear is some of the most expensive stuff...its mostly cause most gear a woman would use is the subtle gear that many people like...i think if i could take 100mg of primo ed for the rest of my life i would :-P... that said things like primo are easy to fake and hard to find... brand wise, except for a very few things, i totally use UG labs..if ug gear is not palatable to you, then you have to decide what is... vet quality gear fine with ya? then maby QV or denkall or other mexican stuff are good brands for ya human grade is your line? Upjohn schering oragonan are solid companies bottom line is if its legit gear then it dosent matter what company it is...and no matter what you get there is allways a risk about it..ug gear could be dirty...mexican gear could be underdosed ....human grade gear could be faked

04-14-2004, 02:16 PM	#9
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,474 Photos: 1	I would avoid IP, the oils are something of internet infamy, never used them though only tabs. Mexican vet stuff, used it but the reputation goes downhill as each year passes. I prefer underground or home made, price/performance etc once in awhile an UG lab is exposed as faking or underdosing. Its more a matter of selling more goods when out of raws than the price of raws themselves. So if someone is never out of stock you might have right to be suspicious. American stuff like Upjohn has a great reputation but expensive and not carried by many folks. Plus American companies wont turn out many goods in the US that might be medicinally used in other countries, dianabol hasn't been used in the USA since about 1982 if I recall correctly. Primo is very rare, for whatever reason not many people feel like making it and not all powder sources even carry it. Often times primo is just relabled something else like deca. One UG lab was turning out 200mg/ml primo that I heard was very painfull I'd judge by brand, ask opinions, there are FAR too many labs to try and cover in a single thread especially since many of us have used between 5 and 15 different brands, that only being a small fraction of what is out there.

04-14-2004, 02:26 PM	#11
Power Rabbit The Bunny Is Bulking! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,027 Photos: 3	some things can be swallowed...primo...winny...basically things that are made in oral form aswell as suspended in oil...you cant swollow test, or deca, etc... you cant really tell if its clean without a lab test...best thing to do is take every precaution you can...buy from a source that is very reputable and you/your friends trust....and filter your gear before you go about useing it...all the gear i own I refiltered with a whatman filter just to be safe...