Thread: How can u guys use it?

there is "intelligent" use, and then there is abuse.

no its not abuse.. its called markus ruhl use..

????

cummon thats funny...

i bet he gets worried wen he finds blood in his steriod stream

Ignorance is the root of your questions.

With a little education, you might understand.

Ya cheeky bugger....

it is pretty ignorant for what i say which i am sorri for


but i just believe if its illegal its obviously illegal for a reason...

Originally posted by BCC
Ignorance is the root of your questions.

With a little education, you might understand.

Since he is only 15, I'm glad he doesn't understand .

thatd b a right wierd turn out ... a 16 yr old roid freak

It's illegal because Carl Lewis got whupped. And society has an underlying preoccupation with sports records and no grasp on what people will do to succeed at the competitive level.

still dont think its right
:o

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
but i just believe if its illegal its obviously illegal for a reason...

with that logic, explain to me why cigaretttes are legal?

Originally posted by JerseyDevil
Since he is only 15, I'm glad he doesn't understand .

Good point.

I didn't realize he was 15.

You're right, steroids are horrible. Stay far, far away from them

they are addictive, they cause lung cancer.. loss of sperm count ect. and are just over all damaging to your health , but thats life.. i guess goverment relized that cancer is gunna wipe out the human race weather we like it or not...

wea re all going to die

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
they are addictive, they cause lung cancer.. loss of sperm count ect. and are just over all damaging to your health , but thats life

you said steroids are illegal for a reason, okay, so why are cigarettes legal?

smokings different to steriods.... i mean steriods are a way of cheating in body building comps ect...

maybe its cuz steriods effects are more powerfull so thats why theyre illegal compared to smoking?? , my head hurts

great answer.

I think you better stop making statement like this if that is all you can come up with.

thats very kind of you... i was only trying to answer ur question.. and if u didnt relize i started this thread as a question... not an arguement against it...


i honestly dont know alot about it... and i was hoping ud give me show me reason to ur madness... but sure

laugh at me

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
how do u guys go about using steriods??, dont u relize wot its doing to you.. theres obvious side effects....

What is it doing to me? You obviously do not realize, because most of us are still healthy individuals.

What obvious side effects? Oh yes, the increased sex drive and larger muscles. I honestly dont feel terrible about it, but I respect you not wanting these side effects. It really is a responsibility.

hahah thats funny but what about the penis shrinkage and anger??

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
smokings different to steriods.... i mean steriods are a way of cheating in body building comps ect...

It is not cheating if it is an open organization, if its an organization for DRUG FREE ATHELETES then yes I agree its cheating and I hate seeing it, but people still do it.

Yes smoking is very different. All the costs and health hazards without any benefit to the user.

Steroids give benefits, and the health issues are something you can watch.

Smokers smoke year round, and its bad for you no matter what. Most steroid users cycle, and will not harm health if you are not stupid, otherwise steroids would not be used in medicine.

I can't remember the last time a doctor prescribed smoking.

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
hahah thats funny but what about the penis shrinkage and anger??

Penis shrinkage is a stupid myth. Testicular shrinkage IS a possibility, and is controlled mostly by cycles - however there is HCG and other items that can help.

Rage is largely a fallacy. I have had enough testosterone in my body to put me 10x over normal, and it helps my anxiety - can't say I've evern been angry because of testosterone. Tren is one that gave me a little aggression, but not only was it minor, but it was controllable and I used it to my advantage. Perhaps not everyone is the same, but largely I think people who have problems on it, have problems to begin with.

Thanks to BANDAIDWOMAN for this one:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/408595_5

Several reports of mental status changes associated with AASs have been published. These include acute paranoia,[32] delirium,[33] mania or hypomania,[34,35] and homicidal rage.[36,37] Studies comparing AAS users to nonusing weight lifter controls have found significantly more episodes of depression, anxiety, hostility, paranoia, and aggression in users of AAS.[38, 39] One study comparing AAS users on vs off AASs reported a higher rate of aggressive feelings, verbal aggression, and aggression toward objects, but not physical aggression toward people, while on the agents. AAS users have also been observed to have a significantly greater rate of personality psychopathology compared with community controls.[40,41] As none of these studies are randomized, causality is difficult to establish in the association of AASs and psychiatric changes, including aggression and hypomania.
At least 5 studies have administered supraphysiologic doses of testosterone in a placebo-controlled design to psychiatrically "normal" subjects.[42-46] Overall, these studies indicate that the majority of normal individuals will not experience psychiatric changes with testosterone doses up to 500-600 mg/week. However, this response is not uniform and individual patients will experience marked affective changes, particularly as the dose increases beyond 500 mg/week. Furthermore, the majority of real-world AAS abusers will use doses greater than the equivalent of 500 mg of testosterone. Patients with underlying psychopathology (eg, antisocial personality disorder) or a general predisposition toward anger are probably more likely to experience an increase in angry or aggressive behavior. This relationship is important because these individuals are probably more likely to use anabolic steroids illicitly, compared with "healthy, psychologically normal men."

The potential for addiction to the AASs has been investigated. In interviews with 49 AAS users, at least 1 DSM-III-R symptom of dependence was reported by 94% of the sample, while 3 or more symptoms were reported by 57% of the sample.[47] The authors concluded that AASs were addictive and suggested that dissatisfaction with body size and increases in size and strength obtained with AASs may lead to patterns of dependent use.

still didnt answer the penis and anger question...

a person against always focuses on negative

yet a person for only focuses on posative

spoke too soon then

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
maybe its cuz steriods effects are more powerfull so thats why theyre illegal compared to smoking?? , my head hurts

Smoking kills up to 5,000 fetuses each year and 6,200 children, gives asthma to thousands more, and kills 625,000 adults. What exactly is powerfull to you? Do you really believe that a million or more people are dying from steroids each year to make this worse than smoking?

You are a successfully brainwashed citizen, congragulations. You would make George Orwell proud, he wrote a book about people just like you.

IM IN A BOOK!!!!!!!!

sorry for my ignorance... i guess i should of knew a little more before yapping my mouth around...

im not saying im for it now.. i just have a lil more respect for it...

Thanx for teaching me a lil bout it mudge iinstead of laughnig at my dumbness

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
a person against always focuses on negative

yet a person for only focuses on posative

You sell yourself short here, and me as well. This is not a fact, please stick to the facts.

Do you want to know whats bad about steroids?

* Possibility of liver cancer by users who abuse orals
* Possibility of gynecomastia from estrogenic side effects
* Possibility of high blood pressure from water retention
* Possiblity of abcess in tissues from infection etc
* Possibility of kidney issues, mostly from diuretic abuse
* Possibility of cholesterol problems from hormonal imballance which could lead even to death
* hGH use from cadaveurs leading to possible brain diseases

This covers the basics. The people who use year round, would be advised to get blood work done at least every 2 months, but often they get work done more often than that.

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
Thanx for teaching me a lil bout it mudge iinstead of laughnig at my dumbness

I once was the same way, why? Because I didn't know anything about it. I was never hatefull against steroids or people that used them, I just assumed they were bad for you and therefore people were selling thier lives short for using them.

I bought a book about them in 1996 that was mostly over my head so it did me little good to read it. Then when coming on the net to read about BB stuff I ran into this stuff again, and eventually started reading, out of curiosity as if it was a taboo to be embarrassed about. Here I am now, I know more, and feel it is a shame that society is so ignorant to the truth but this is how humans are.

Rumors spread, and stigma gets attached to things that are often untrue.

You are familiar with the saying, "if I wanted it done right I would have done it myself" - ? If you want to know the truth sometimes you have to investigate on your own. Lots of people have a bias and sometimes will not be completely honest when talking on a subject they know something about, when they know nothing what they say is even more "dangerous."