Southern Labs/Ultra Growth Labs

**Mudge** · 04-24-2004, 03:03 PM

100ml of prop in each delt and I couldn't feel a thing. Obviously if that changes in the next day or so I will let everyone know.

The UGL stuff is even lower viscocity, but they both went through a 27g pin just fine. I use Terumo, the pushers have a very strong base.

I also have some beautiful Naposims looking at me right now

Compared to ProLine prop cut in half at 100mg/ml, which is absolutely bearable, these are 100% painless no BS. I always test by raising my arms, no pain or feeling at all.

**Mudge** · 04-24-2004, 03:19 PM

I can feel the UGL stuff a little now, nothing from the Southern Labs side at all.

TrojanMan60563 · 04-24-2004, 04:03 PM

you did UGL in one delt , and southern in the other?

**Mudge** · 04-24-2004, 04:15 PM

Correcto, Southern in the left and UGL in my right. I've never tried either before.

I would gladly do either brand but if I had a choice I would go Southern. I have one bottle of Southern and 3 of the UGL that I'll be tearing through.

I can't tell I had a shot in my left at all, can barely feel it in my right. The bottle does not say, but its possible that Southern is not using any BA at all.

TrojanMan60563 · 04-24-2004, 04:22 PM

Wouldn't that be bad if they are using no BA. I thought that is what helps control getting infections and nasty absesses by keeping the stuff steril

JerseyDevil · 04-24-2004, 05:24 PM

I've done 10 injections now with UGL test enanthate, rotating delts, quads and tri's, and they have been next to painless. The tri's gave me a bit of soreness, and got a bit red, but still very easy to tolerate. I'm due to inject in tri's again next two injects, I'll report back if they still seem touchy. I think maybe 1cc for a first time into the tri may have been pushing it.

I appreciate Mudge's comparison. Prop is usually known to be painful, so if these brands can pass the "Mudge test", then cool. I'm seriously considering prop in my next cycle...

**Mudge** · 04-24-2004, 06:13 PM

BA is used for sterility however people have been using other methods now for awhile, Dazed oil has been on the market for some time now and people use it just fine. Mr.T (kit guy) also has a product out with zero BA.

Yes prop has been for me a little painfull in terms of yes, you can feel it, but this Southern stuff is awesome. I would readily buy either brand though, although Southern only costs me $2 more.

Just a guy · 04-24-2004, 08:20 PM

my shit i made is absolutely painless...

Michael D · 04-24-2004, 08:54 PM

You guys suck

I emailed my supplier and got this back:

"I believe there was one batch that was an early one they
overdosed at 275 which required more solvent - bet you got that one."

So maybe that is it. They must have sneezed when they dumped in the solvent though for mine. It is a bitch.

**Mudge** · 04-24-2004, 09:17 PM

Yeah because 275 isn't that much, some people just plain use a lot of BA. I dunno I've never reacted all that badly to gear minus the 400/500mg/ml stuff but still in the rear it was bearable. I guess I just have a fat ass though

Michael D · 04-24-2004, 10:14 PM

I guess the smaller the muscle is you inject into, the more the potential for pain. My ass isn't exactly non-existent, but not out of porportion to the rest of me. The women at work say I have a "phat" ass lol.

Man, I just finished a back/tri workout and damn, those Naps do give a pump.

**Mudge** · 04-25-2004, 12:50 AM

Yeah, the smaller the more effect generally, which is why the ass is #1.

**Dale Mabry** · 04-25-2004, 10:33 AM

I am using UGL EQ and it is great.

JerseyDevil · 04-25-2004, 05:47 PM

I'm anxious to hear how UGL A50's rate.

http://anabolicfreakz.com/forum/atta...=&postid=62202

jeb · 05-25-2004, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
I am using UGL EQ and it is great.

I just stated to use EQ this week, did you get good results from it? I'm also doing test en. 400/ml and I can barely feel it and the 250/ml is painless.

TrojanMan60563 · 05-25-2004, 03:31 PM

Anyone try the Southern EQ? Would eq run better with a long ester test?

jeb · 05-25-2004, 03:35 PM

I'm running right now test en 400/wk and eq 400/wk (ugl) I extended my cycle for another 10 wks starting yesterday but I added the eq.

**dg806** · 05-26-2004, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyDevil
I'm anxious to hear how UGL A50's rate.

http://anabolicfreakz.com/forum/atta...=&postid=62202

Any idea on price?

JerseyDevil · 05-26-2004, 01:36 PM

Last I saw 50 count, 50mg caps - $85

**dg806** · 05-28-2004, 11:51 AM

Any more updates Mudge?

**Mudge** · 05-28-2004, 02:27 PM

Nope, I'd still pay the $2 extra for Southern.

TrojanMan60563 · 05-28-2004, 06:56 PM

Since I've chosen prop for my cycle given mudges southern experiences I am going with the southern prop. Gonna get 4 20ml vials.

JerseyDevil · 05-28-2004, 07:03 PM

I'm using Southern t prop right now.

camarosuper6 · 05-28-2004, 07:39 PM

Jersey, you inj EOD or ED with the prop and how much, if you dont mind me asking.

JerseyDevil · 05-29-2004, 04:41 AM

150mg eod. The injecting does get a bit old, but not too bad.

TrojanMan60563 · 05-29-2004, 05:15 PM

I'm afraid it won't hurt and I will look forward to it...that would suck. I used to smoke a while back and I don't think it was the nicotine that I was addicted to. It was just the act of smoking. I hope I don't get to really like the act of jabbing myself all the time

Michael D · 05-30-2004, 12:03 AM

I think something might be wrong if you actually look forward to it. I am over the shot thing now but it still isn't something I can't wait to do.

**Mudge** · 05-30-2004, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael D

I think something might be wrong if you actually look forward to it. I am over the shot thing now but it still isn't something I can't wait to do.

Its easy to excited when the cycles rock your world.

TrojanMan60563 · 05-30-2004, 04:20 PM

If I am packing on lean mass and getting more vascular in a hurry that is plenty of motivation to jab myself EOD.

JerseyDevil · 05-30-2004, 06:10 PM

I have seen some posts by seasoned gear users who commented they could not stand whole cycle eod test prop injections, and went back to the longer esters for the long term.

04-24-2004, 03:03 PM	#1
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	Southern Labs/Ultra Growth Labs 100ml of prop in each delt and I couldn't feel a thing. Obviously if that changes in the next day or so I will let everyone know. The UGL stuff is even lower viscocity, but they both went through a 27g pin just fine. I use Terumo, the pushers have a very strong base. I also have some beautiful Naposims looking at me right now Compared to ProLine prop cut in half at 100mg/ml, which is absolutely bearable, these are 100% painless no BS. I always test by raising my arms, no pain or feeling at all.
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04-24-2004, 03:19 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	I can feel the UGL stuff a little now, nothing from the Southern Labs side at all.
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04-24-2004, 06:13 PM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	BA is used for sterility however people have been using other methods now for awhile, Dazed oil has been on the market for some time now and people use it just fine. Mr.T (kit guy) also has a product out with zero BA. Yes prop has been for me a little painfull in terms of yes, you can feel it, but this Southern stuff is awesome. I would readily buy either brand though, although Southern only costs me $2 more.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

04-24-2004, 08:20 PM	#8
Just a guy Senior Gear head Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,320 Photos: 1	my shit i made is absolutely painless...
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04-24-2004, 08:54 PM	#9
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	You guys suck I emailed my supplier and got this back: "I believe there was one batch that was an early one they overdosed at 275 which required more solvent - bet you got that one." So maybe that is it. They must have sneezed when they dumped in the solvent though for mine. It is a bitch.
	"Fear profits man nothing."

04-24-2004, 04:03 PM	#3
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,968 Photos: 1	you did UGL in one delt , and southern in the other?

04-24-2004, 04:15 PM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	Correcto, Southern in the left and UGL in my right. I've never tried either before. I would gladly do either brand but if I had a choice I would go Southern. I have one bottle of Southern and 3 of the UGL that I'll be tearing through. I can't tell I had a shot in my left at all, can barely feel it in my right. The bottle does not say, but its possible that Southern is not using any BA at all.

04-24-2004, 04:22 PM	#5
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,968 Photos: 1	Wouldn't that be bad if they are using no BA. I thought that is what helps control getting infections and nasty absesses by keeping the stuff steril

04-24-2004, 05:24 PM	#6
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	I've done 10 injections now with UGL test enanthate, rotating delts, quads and tri's, and they have been next to painless. The tri's gave me a bit of soreness, and got a bit red, but still very easy to tolerate. I'm due to inject in tri's again next two injects, I'll report back if they still seem touchy. I think maybe 1cc for a first time into the tri may have been pushing it. I appreciate Mudge's comparison. Prop is usually known to be painful, so if these brands can pass the "Mudge test", then cool. I'm seriously considering prop in my next cycle...

04-24-2004, 09:17 PM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	Yeah because 275 isn't that much, some people just plain use a lot of BA. I dunno I've never reacted all that badly to gear minus the 400/500mg/ml stuff but still in the rear it was bearable. I guess I just have a fat ass though
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04-24-2004, 10:14 PM	#11
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	I guess the smaller the muscle is you inject into, the more the potential for pain. My ass isn't exactly non-existent, but not out of porportion to the rest of me. The women at work say I have a "phat" ass lol. Man, I just finished a back/tri workout and damn, those Naps do give a pump.
	"Fear profits man nothing."

04-25-2004, 12:50 AM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	Yeah, the smaller the more effect generally, which is why the ass is #1.
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04-25-2004, 10:33 AM	#13
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,845 Photos: 10	I am using UGL EQ and it is great.
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04-25-2004, 05:47 PM	#14
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	I'm anxious to hear how UGL A50's rate. http://anabolicfreakz.com/forum/atta...=&postid=62202 Last edited by JerseyDevil : 04-25-2004 at 05:57 PM.

05-25-2004, 03:31 PM	#16
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,968 Photos: 1	Anyone try the Southern EQ? Would eq run better with a long ester test?

05-28-2004, 07:39 PM	#24
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,344	Jersey, you inj EOD or ED with the prop and how much, if you dont mind me asking.
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05-25-2004, 03:35 PM	#17
jeb Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 173	I'm running right now test en 400/wk and eq 400/wk (ugl) I extended my cycle for another 10 wks starting yesterday but I added the eq.

05-26-2004, 01:36 PM	#19
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	Last I saw 50 count, 50mg caps - $85

05-28-2004, 11:51 AM	#20
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05-28-2004, 02:27 PM	#21
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,029 Photos: 1	Nope, I'd still pay the $2 extra for Southern.
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05-28-2004, 06:56 PM	#22
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,968 Photos: 1	Since I've chosen prop for my cycle given mudges southern experiences I am going with the southern prop. Gonna get 4 20ml vials.

05-28-2004, 07:03 PM	#23
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	I'm using Southern t prop right now.

05-29-2004, 04:41 AM	#25
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	150mg eod. The injecting does get a bit old, but not too bad.

05-29-2004, 05:15 PM	#26
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,968 Photos: 1	I'm afraid it won't hurt and I will look forward to it...that would suck. I used to smoke a while back and I don't think it was the nicotine that I was addicted to. It was just the act of smoking. I hope I don't get to really like the act of jabbing myself all the time

05-30-2004, 12:03 AM	#27
Michael D Working on a new me! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Coast US Posts: 393 Photos: 4	I think something might be wrong if you actually look forward to it. I am over the shot thing now but it still isn't something I can't wait to do.
	"Fear profits man nothing."

05-30-2004, 04:20 PM	#29
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,968 Photos: 1	If I am packing on lean mass and getting more vascular in a hurry that is plenty of motivation to jab myself EOD.

05-30-2004, 06:10 PM	#30
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	I have seen some posts by seasoned gear users who commented they could not stand whole cycle eod test prop injections, and went back to the longer esters for the long term.