Thread: Injection problems

Dirty gear.. improper injection.. Re-used needles... Too much oil in one spot.. these are all factors of gettin a abcess. An abcess is a infection so you WILL get a temperature as your body tried to fight it. It will usually be Red and Very warm to the touch. And very sharp pains when you touch it(usually).

As in the knot... I get them all the time in my Left Quad and my Right cheek.. But i also do ED injections. I think you will be fine... throw a heating pad on there and massage the shit out of it. You might not have went deep enough into the muscle... Just make sure u hit the Top right of the Cheek(www.spotinjections.com)... go to that site if your not sure.

Most likely your problem is the amount of BA in the QV products, their reputation has gone way downhill over the last year or so.

Thanks, yeah I don't have any of those symptoms it's just hard to the touch. Like I said it doesn't even hurt I was just concerned. I use a 1 1/2 inch needle and go in almost all the way I only leave a very small bit out.
To Mudge: I decided to try a shot in the shoulder, I only put the needle in about half way. I swear this is the worst pain. The shot felt ok but now it hurts like hell, fells like I put a nail in my shoulder could that be from to much BA?

Guys, any feedback on British Dragon products?? Test Prop and Eq to be precise... I need to decide now to order so it will be in on time for next cycle...

BA causes tissue necrosis, the more there is the more painfull the shots are.

I would go all the way with the needle or else buy the appropriate size, if you move that pin around you create more tissue damage.

British Dragon has a pretty good rep but I have never used their injectables.

What is best for the delts? 1 inch or the 5/8 ?

just a guy is right...lots of things cause abscesses....but if it was an abscess it would continue to grow and it would hurt...abscesses are infestions an from the sound of it you probably do not have one....still go and see you doctor...cause if it is...it may have to be surgecally removed if it is allowed to worsten. It sound more like you are injecting you gear to quickly..plunge down on the needly very slowly...im sure you have 30 seconds to spare...lit it drip out of the syringe...also...you may be using a too small of a syringe..like just a guy said....1.5" standard...stick it all the way in to the plastic needle stop.

it could also be water build up?...but thats usually not hard...just swollen and "pinchy".

deltoid needle size....if a body part isn't big enough for a at least a 1" inch needle then don't inject there(else you'll have your gear spilling out...not good)..but im sure it is...nurses use 1-1.5inch needle for flew shots...but flew shot arn't gear...and gear needs to be put as far inot a muscle as possible

everything said here is strictly opinion....not meaning ot ofend anyone!

p.s....25gauge seems a bit small for oil injectables...id switch to a 21 or 22 gauge 1.5" inches in the quads and glute...if big enough 1.5 in the delt as well...but if not 1" will suffice.

I wouldnt recommend the 5/8 with delts i have had many problems with them.

Well when i do the glute shot i do go in all the way. I didn't go in all the way when i tried the shoulder becuase i was afraid of hitting something. This is my first cycle so i was just unsure. As far as going slow, I tend to go slow but you can't really go quick with the 25g anyway. When I was reading about injections allot of guys reccomended a 25g to minimize pain. Good news though the knot on my glute finally went away!! Shoulder feels fine now too.

muscle pain ususally isn't usually caused by needle size..unless your using a massive one...ill see if i can dig up the article on needle size fore you and post it...muscle paints are the cause of the injectable itself.

p.s glad to hear your the ball in your ass in out.lol

what u talking about man?? 25 G is FINE... I would not recommend using anything Below 25G (too much scar tissue)

like i said...not trying to offend anyone..if you like 25 gauge..use it...my doctor a=has recommended a 22 gaude for me...i sometime have problems with smaller needles bending when my muscles harden from gear and dieting.

if 25 works use it...sorry just a guy...not meaning to step on anyones toes here...just posting my opinion...

brother i wasnt tryin to sound like an ass... I just sound like an ass Naturally.. Sorry. I have friends that use 28G with Oil. I get pissed off and annoyed with 25G just because it takes forever to push the oil through... Welcome to IM davecreed.

no need to explain ...im the newbie...im just grubbling till everyone knows im freindly

Yeah I like 25g also. It is slower to inject, which is a good thing, and with less scar tissue.

Some people like 5/8" for delts, but I agree 1" is preferable. I use 1" for delts, quads, and tri's, 1.5" for glutes.

I got 23g 1.5" for my ass, and 25g 1" for delts, and quads.

Well the 25G 1.5 inch seams to be working fine for the glutes. I thought about ordering some more needles but i only have 5 more weeks so it's no big deal. Shoulder started hurting again today though think I will definately stay away from those damn delts. I think my delt is pretty solid I was just worried about hitting something if I went that deep. Last time I swear I felt a sharp pain like I hit a nerve.

Ok, I think I figured out my 2nd cycle...

Mudge, your seal of approval would be very appreciated if you so see it...

1-10 Prop 125 mg EOD
1-10 Eq 200 mg E4D (front load 300 mg first two doses)

Using british Dragon Prop 100 mg/ml, EQ 200 mg/ml

again, looking to put only 15-20 lbs LBM on my 6'1- 185 8% frame that has a very hard time getting hungry!

I dont know if the EQ would provide any noticeable benefit unless you grabbed a short ester, and those aren't the easiest or cheapest to find.

Prop + food should be all you need. As for food/weight gain thats something you have to adjust to. Count your calories and try to hit 1k over maintenance and then go from there within a few weeks, adjust as neccessary.

I think i jinxed myself by starting this thread. The knot i had went away like the day after i started this thread. In the meantime i had done an injection in the shoulder with "some" luck. It was hurting but nothing serious. I went back to look at the injection pics from spot injections and saw that i was doing the glute shot up higher and towards the outside so i tried like in the pic. WORST ideal ever!! I could barely reach around and hold steady , i really mucked this shot up and not it hurts like hell. I have this HUGE lump on my ass that has been hurting since monday morning. I wouldn't say it's warm and i don't have a fever but theres no way this is just a know right? Some one help!! Oh last night i put a bengay heating pad on it but it didn't seem to do very much.

christ you wont know its an abcess till infection jumps in...wich takes at least a week...Your putting a piece of metal in your muscle and shakeing it around....Do you think your body isnt gonna hurt for abit??!!


Injections of oil will hurt....
Injections where you shake and rip up your muscle will hurt...

Try this..... punch yourself in the leg real hard...enough to give you a bruise....now count the days for it to heal....now wait that number of days before you think every injection is a abcess

A lot of mex gear does that, or less than gorgeous underground stuff. Ttokkyo did that to me a bit.

Yeah but this is more than just a litle injection pain. I have a lump on my ass the size of a golfball!! I know the actuall injection will/might cause pain but i am concerned with the lump because it doesn't feel hard like a knot. It actually went down last night and is swelling up again??

Thats what I meant, lumps. As for it being the size of a golfball though, sounds like you are reacting poorly to the stuff, how deep are you going?

Try cutting oil, works wonders.

I am useing a 1 1/2 inch needle and going in all the way. This last time I couldn't reach very well, I stuck it in straight but by the time I pulled it out it was no longer straight. This was also my first injection with the new stuff batch 17 of the QV test en. Has anybody else had problems with this stuff? My next injection is saterday and it would be better if I fouled up one injection than if this is from the QV. Oh and Mudge next time I will go with something better this was my first and i didn't know any better. I actually heard a lot of good abot QV when I was researching.

be careful you don't want to break the needle off in your ass. That would be bad, and embarassing to go to the doc to have removed.