Thread: best test for gaining strength?

fast acting stuff generally. Test suspension is awesome for strength gains if you want to put up with all teh rest of the pain that comes with it. lol. It does depend on the user thou with most esters which are basically the same

with the longer esters won't you get the same strength gains just later into the cycle?

test is test...

Originally posted by TrojanMan60563
with the longer esters won't you get the same strength gains just later into the cycle?

I would say hell no, now if you are talking about running 6 months at a time then maybe your 6 months is as good as 3/4 months on suspension IF you run a higher dose of another test. Remember suspension has no ester.

Prop is my favorite compromise.

Originally posted by Power Rabbit
test is test...

Normally I'd agree. But 500mgs of prop and 500mgs of enanthate are two different worlds.

heh your right...ill change that... test is test as long as your running for a long enough cycle and matching amount of actual steroid mg for mg....so like 650mgish enan to 500ish prop for a 24 weeker

Originally posted by Power Rabbit
heh your right...ill change that... test is test as long as your running for a long enough cycle and matching amount of actual steroid mg for mg....so like 650mgish enan to 500ish prop for a 24 weeker

yep exactly..............if you run the exact dosage for the same time of say suspension or prop vs. the long esters like enanthate, you don't get the same amount of steriod in long esters and thus your strength will be compromised. Great Point PR

You can also time suspension where you cannot with enan/cyp. From my own experience, shorter esters blow long esters away, never touched suspension.

Is the muscle growth more noticeable on prop then enanthate? How long on prop before true muscle growth takes place. How subtle is the growth, or how rapid is it? Lets assume my diet is in check and I am taking 150mg prop EOD, 30mg Dbol ED, and 300mg deca once a week for the first 4 weeks of my cycle. Obviously results are different for everyone, but what kind of results can I expect in this first month. Take into consideration that I will be running .25-.5mg EOD of Arimidex the entire time to cut down on bloat and water retention. I am just wondering how drastic the change will be during this first month because nearing the end of the 4th week I am going to be in my mothers wedding as a grooms guy. I have already been measured for the tux and everything. I can go back up to like a week before the wedding to get remeasured.

I went from 18 5/8" to 18 7/8" in about a week? Something like that. Everything is more noticeable because it happens RIGHT NOW, there is no waiting, there is no subtle effect. It doesn't punch you in the face like suspension must (15 minutes or so) but its felt very, very quickly and seen very fast as well.

Yep. I shot 200mgs of prop Monday night and another 150 Tuesday. I had morning wood that woke me up big time Wednesday morning. I'd say I was in high 'gear' with it by then.

Hey Mudge when you say "felt" what do you mean. Can you describe the feeling to me? Its not like a jittery feeling like ECA stack is it?

No, but I dont get jitters on anything. The most obvious and describable feeling is flat out being horny as hell, especially in the AM. I start getting woken up by morning wood 1-1.5 hours before I'm supposed to wake up if its really bad.

Other than that there is not much you could say, you feel somehow different but for me its not a major feeling.

I hope the feeling I get is like a sense of well-being as they say. I am already a horny freak. There isn't a day that goes by I don't wake up with wood. If I were more of a horn dog I'm going to be in trouble. I guess we'll see. I get paid next week and I'll be able to get the rest of my gear together at that time. I'm all excited as hell about.

There is a difference between waking up with wood, and wood waking you up. Unlike you I am single so really its like a burden of sorts, seriously I hope your woman is a marathoner.

For some reason my libido has gone down. I am in my 6th week. I was really into it about weeks 2-4 but afterwards, it has went back down. Kinda good I guess, I was really getting fed up with it.

Originally Posted by Mudge

There is a difference between waking up with wood, and wood waking you up.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Michael D

I was really getting fed up with it.

It makes you an animal sometimes doesn't it

I'm hoping that my chic won't mind me wanting it every second of the day. If she doesn't like it I can always find someone that will...lol Or I guess I could be a good boy and just pop in a DVD and go to town

Double or tripple sex 'requirements' are not abnormal at all. 7 times a day, 10 times a day, whatever

I must be still doing alright with my natural test because I am always horny and cranky. I can be edgy and easily upset. I don't think because I am actually a mad person, but I think its due to such a high sex drive. Test will probably make that worse for me. I'll probably do ok, but I don't know if I should ever use a drug like tren that is known to make you very easily pissed. I think no matter what you are ultimately in control of your own actions. I don't think gear can make you lose that control.

Cranky is a bunch of bullcrap, I still dont believe that has anything to do with TESTOSTERONE levels. DHT maybe I dont know as I dont bother studying it, but I've been on a gram of test a week for 6 weeks running and I didn't murder or fight anyone and I dont get in bitching matches either.

Unless you physically see me you wont know I'm in the room.

Tren on the other hand did make a difference, but still completely controllable.

my occational short fuse if probably more related to the stress in my life. A higher test level will probably help rather then make it worse.

Anadrol is that only drug I've noticed to make a profound difference in me. It definitely shortens my fuse, and I have a feeling when I give tren a go-around, I'll experience it to a worse degree.

Hey Mudge how long are you planning on running the prop this time around?

Possibly 6 months, not sure, I'll wing it.