fast acting stuff generally. Test suspension is awesome for strength gains if you want to put up with all teh rest of the pain that comes with it. lol. It does depend on the user thou with most esters which are basically the same
Originally posted by TrojanMan60563
with the longer esters won't you get the same strength gains just later into the cycle?
I would say hell no, now if you are talking about running 6 months at a time then maybe your 6 months is as good as 3/4 months on suspension IF you run a higher dose of another test. Remember suspension has no ester.
Originally posted by Power Rabbit
heh your right...ill change that... test is test as long as your running for a long enough cycle and matching amount of actual steroid mg for mg....so like 650mgish enan to 500ish prop for a 24 weeker
yep exactly..............if you run the exact dosage for the same time of say suspension or prop vs. the long esters like enanthate, you don't get the same amount of steriod in long esters and thus your strength will be compromised. Great Point PR
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Is the muscle growth more noticeable on prop then enanthate? How long on prop before true muscle growth takes place. How subtle is the growth, or how rapid is it? Lets assume my diet is in check and I am taking 150mg prop EOD, 30mg Dbol ED, and 300mg deca once a week for the first 4 weeks of my cycle. Obviously results are different for everyone, but what kind of results can I expect in this first month. Take into consideration that I will be running .25-.5mg EOD of Arimidex the entire time to cut down on bloat and water retention. I am just wondering how drastic the change will be during this first month because nearing the end of the 4th week I am going to be in my mothers wedding as a grooms guy. I have already been measured for the tux and everything. I can go back up to like a week before the wedding to get remeasured.
I went from 18 5/8" to 18 7/8" in about a week? Something like that. Everything is more noticeable because it happens RIGHT NOW, there is no waiting, there is no subtle effect. It doesn't punch you in the face like suspension must (15 minutes or so) but its felt very, very quickly and seen very fast as well.
No, but I dont get jitters on anything. The most obvious and describable feeling is flat out being horny as hell, especially in the AM. I start getting woken up by morning wood 1-1.5 hours before I'm supposed to wake up if its really bad.
Other than that there is not much you could say, you feel somehow different but for me its not a major feeling.
I hope the feeling I get is like a sense of well-being as they say. I am already a horny freak. There isn't a day that goes by I don't wake up with wood. If I were more of a horn dog I'm going to be in trouble. I guess we'll see. I get paid next week and I'll be able to get the rest of my gear together at that time. I'm all excited as hell about.
I'm hoping that my chic won't mind me wanting it every second of the day. If she doesn't like it I can always find someone that will...lol Or I guess I could be a good boy and just pop in a DVD and go to town
I must be still doing alright with my natural test because I am always horny and cranky. I can be edgy and easily upset. I don't think because I am actually a mad person, but I think its due to such a high sex drive. Test will probably make that worse for me. I'll probably do ok, but I don't know if I should ever use a drug like tren that is known to make you very easily pissed. I think no matter what you are ultimately in control of your own actions. I don't think gear can make you lose that control.
Cranky is a bunch of bullcrap, I still dont believe that has anything to do with TESTOSTERONE levels. DHT maybe I dont know as I dont bother studying it, but I've been on a gram of test a week for 6 weeks running and I didn't murder or fight anyone and I dont get in bitching matches either.
Unless you physically see me you wont know I'm in the room.
Tren on the other hand did make a difference, but still completely controllable.
Thats cool. As you know I am going to do a show next april, and I'm trying to put together a couple cycles between now and then. I have 10 months. I wanted to get three cycles in by then. Two cycles geared more towards bulking and then one cycle leading up to the show itself. I've been putting it all down on paper but there is no way I can do it if I do time on time off. I think I will do my first cycle then PCT. After that I am going to probably end up doing just one long cycle leading up to the show. My second cycle will end up being like 6 months.