OH SHIT! What do I do?

Evil ANT · 06-07-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

also, how would she not know?

are you sure you're getting real stuff?

how do you explain the rapid weight and size increase?

Last cycle I ate like a pig, so I just used all our trips to Taco Bell to explain my gains.

"These tacos sure do build muscle, huh hun?"

**Prince** · 06-07-2004, 05:36 PM

so, would you say that if she found out about the gear she would leave you?

if so, why would you put using gear above your marriage?

just curious.

Evil ANT · 06-07-2004, 05:39 PM

Nah, she wouldn't leave me. She'd be pretty pissed, but I know she wouldn't leave me. I'd just have to hear about it for the rest of my life.

I'm not sure if you use, but if you do, you're putting gear above your wife, too. You don't have to necessarily be doing it consciously, but you're still doing it.

I mean, if you get busted, you're going away for a long time and it's not fair to her, you know? This is another reason I'm probably done with the stuff. Maybe customs seizing my stuff was exactly what I needed.

**Prince** · 06-07-2004, 05:41 PM

I do not use anything illegal, it's not worth my freedom.

I use M1T, Methyl-D, 4-AD and 1-Test.

Evil ANT · 06-07-2004, 05:43 PM

I'm thinkin' I agree with you.

Not worth going to prison over. I think I'll stick to being less strong and having a free life I can live with my wife.

I'm Trying · 06-07-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I do not use anything illegal, it's not worth my freedom.

I use M1T, Methyl-D, 4-AD and 1-Test.

Now what will you do hen all the "legal" shit gets banned thought?? Its going to be a sad day here really soon.

Evil ANT · 06-07-2004, 06:19 PM

My stance was that this legal stuff is so damn expensive, it's cheaper to buy actual gear, you know?

I go into GNC and see bottles of legal crap that are damn expensive. For the same price I could get stuff that really, really works - and a lot more of it.

I'm Trying · 06-07-2004, 06:31 PM

What I've done research on it seems like to me alot of PHs are cheaper then the roids. Like bulknutrition.com you can get M1t hella cheap. Screw going into GNC go shopping online!!

**Mudge** · 06-07-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Trying

What I've done research on it seems like to me alot of PHs are cheaper then the roids. Like bulknutrition.com you can get M1t hella cheap. Screw going into GNC go shopping online!!

Depends how lame your source is, gym prices are way way higher than I'd ever dream of paying. What costs me $40 in the gym is $250-$300.

JerseyDevil · 06-07-2004, 06:48 PM

I would consider yourself lucky bro. I have heard of many cases where someone ordered internationally and they received a seizure letter from customs. Not once in those cases did they come after that person. If they wanted you, they would have done a controlled delivery. They sure as hell aren't going to give you advance warning in the form of a seizure letter upfront. To be safe though, I suggest cleaning your house of all gear, syringes, pins, etc. I'm no expert, but that is common sense.

IMO, domestic sources ordered thru secure email is the best way to go. Realize ALL international shipments are subject to customs and postal inspection. With domestic USPS first class, priority and express mail, postal inspections can only take place if the package is deemed suspicious. i.e leaking, smells, or poorly packaged with the contents visible, etc.

Evil ANT · 06-07-2004, 06:58 PM

Okay, I've made sure my house is clean, just in case. I really appreciate everyone's advice.

I would love to order domestically, but I've never been able to find a source. I'm not about to hang out at my local gym and ask around, either.

I'm Trying · 06-07-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Depends how lame your source is, gym prices are way way higher than I'd ever dream of paying. What costs me $40 in the gym is $250-$300.

What I ment by cheaper as far as price plus the consequinces that come long with getting caught, if you are willing to risk your neck (like some of us are)

**Mudge** · 06-07-2004, 07:23 PM

Well you can't argue with that, its a personal choice that someone has to make yay or nay.

BUSTINOUT · 06-07-2004, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

hey man, fucc everything that everyone has said in her, you need to call yourself a lawyer and get some legal counsel bro, thats what I would do. Even if nothing comes from this you still NEED to get official legal advice, that should be your first priority, in fact it should've been your priority before this happened. As far as I known none fo us in here are lawyers so I guarantee it would be in your best interest..btw I am cusious why it said Schedule 1 or 2 substances since AAS are scheduel 3?? Good luck and talk to a lawyer bro

Bro, you re reading too much RC articles. Just chalk it up to a lesson learned. lol Bottom line, he ordered shit illegally and got it snagged. Pretty cut and dried.

BUSTINOUT · 06-07-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

laying low is the wrong thing to do uinless your lawyer tells you to do that, trust me. If nothing happens then great, but he needs to consult someone. theres no if ands or buts about it, you are foolish if you do not. I just read Rick Collins book and if there is anything I learned, its that you need to talk to someone in these situations. I would advise this book also for anyone ordering drugs off the internet, which is pretty stupid IMO. thats another thread thou.

Consult a lawyer and say what..."mr lawyer, customs took my shit that I illegally ordered online."? lol If he gets nailed, then yes, call a lawyer. But to call a lawyer in advance...??? Mr. Lawyer, I'm gonna rob a 7/11 this weekend, but I'm just calling you first to see what me rights are in case I get busted.

BUSTINOUT · 06-07-2004, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil ANT

I go into GNC and see bottles of legal crap that are damn expensive. For the same price I could get stuff that really, really works - and a lot more of it.

You deserve to get screwed if you buy at GNC. lol

BUSTINOUT · 06-07-2004, 07:30 PM

Evil Ant, have you gotten all the other stuff you are expecting? That makes me nervous when some of the packages arrives and other parts do not. I'd stay away from Int'l for awhile and have deliveries sent elsewhere.

gr81 · 06-07-2004, 08:58 PM

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Consult a lawyer and say what..."mr lawyer, customs took my shit that I illegally ordered online."? lol If he gets nailed, then yes, call a lawyer. But to call a lawyer in advance...??? Mr. Lawyer, I'm gonna rob a 7/11 this weekend, but I'm just calling you first to see what me rights are in case I get busted.

sorry there bodyodor

but that isn't even the same thing, not by a long shot. I am not gonna argue over it, the wise thing is to find out legally what could happen to you and what you should do. If I am accused of reading too many articles from the countries best AAS counsel then so be it, thats not a bad thing. He knows what he is talking about and I would take his Proffessional advice over anyone on this site anyday of the week. I would hope the same for you. You can never be too cautious. I have read and hear a million horror stories about regular people getting SCREWED while being guilty of less than he is. I would want to know the correct protocal to follow personally so teh situation doesn't get to a point where you all think you would need a lawyer. my two cents, take it for what its worth

**Mudge** · 06-07-2004, 09:17 PM

Talking Rick's ear off isn't cheap, I wouldn't freak out that much just yet.

gr81 · 06-07-2004, 09:21 PM

I agree, no need to freak out. I would just want to know everything I could so I was prepared to handle things that may come up

Vieope · 06-07-2004, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

just yet.

BUSTINOUT · 06-07-2004, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

sorry there bodyodor

but that isn't even the same thing, not by a long shot. I am not gonna argue over it, the wise thing is to find out legally what could happen to you and what you should do. If I am accused of reading too many articles from the countries best AAS counsel then so be it, thats not a bad thing. He knows what he is talking about and I would take his Proffessional advice over anyone on this site anyday of the week. I would hope the same for you. You can never be too cautious. I have read and hear a million horror stories about regular people getting SCREWED while being guilty of less than he is. I would want to know the correct protocal to follow personally so teh situation doesn't get to a point where you all think you would need a lawyer. my two cents, take it for what its worth

Hey now L81, no BO jokes. lol I'm just bustin ya balls man over the absurdness of thinking he has legal recourse over seized drugs. No question RC knows his shit. I was in no way dissin you for reading up on him. And yes, it is important to know your right BEFORE you get popped, but that was really not relevent to the the original question. You are 100% rights though and never be too cautious...know your rights. I know that first hand. BTW, never take a package from a mail man you do not recognize. lol

**Prince** · 06-07-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

sorry there bodyodor

but that isn't even the same thing, not by a long shot. I am not gonna argue over it, the wise thing is to find out legally what could happen to you and what you should do. If I am accused of reading too many articles from the countries best AAS counsel then so be it, thats not a bad thing. He knows what he is talking about and I would take his Proffessional advice over anyone on this site anyday of the week. I would hope the same for you. You can never be too cautious. I have read and hear a million horror stories about regular people getting SCREWED while being guilty of less than he is. I would want to know the correct protocal to follow personally so teh situation doesn't get to a point where you all think you would need a lawyer. my two cents, take it for what its worth

I agree, but until you get charged with a crime what is the point in talking to a lawyer?

gr81 · 06-07-2004, 10:28 PM

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Hey now L81, no BO jokes.

ha ha, I couldn't resist. can you believe that I have never came with that before until now! lol

BUSTINOUT · 06-07-2004, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

ha ha, I couldn't resist. can you believe that I have never came with that before until now! lol

Da'am, took you long enough. lol

gr81 · 06-07-2004, 10:31 PM

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I agree, but until you get charged with a crime what is the point in talking to a lawyer?

well I am not a lawyer and i have never been in that situation, but I would want to know what should be done about the paper he recieved, what the recourse is. I would want to know what to say if they do try and contact me, how to say the right things. I would just basically want to know what it means that this has happened, what it means in teh future, what they could do if they were so inclined. thats juust me thou

btw, does anyone else think its strange that on that paper, they say they have siezed schedule 1 or 2 drugs, when AAS are schedule 3?? am I the only one that noticed that?

**Prince** · 06-07-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

well I am not a lawyer and i have never been in that situation, but I would want to know what should be done about the paper he recieved, what the recourse is. I would want to know what to say if they do try and contact me, how to say the right things. I would just basically want to know what it means that this has happened, what it means in teh future, what they could do if they were so inclined. thats juust me thou

btw, does anyone else think its strange that on that paper, they say they have siezed schedule 1 or 2 drugs, when AAS are schedule 3?? am I the only one that noticed that?

okay, since you read the book, what does Rick say you should do?

gr81 · 06-07-2004, 10:36 PM

I will go back over it and see what I can come up with for you fellas. give me some time..
hey Prince, I sent ya a PM a few days ago, did you get it?

**Prince** · 06-07-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

I will go back over it and see what I can come up with for you fellas. give me some time..
hey Prince, I sent ya a PM a few days ago, did you get it?

okay.

ummm...I am sure I did but do not recall what it was?

gr81 · 06-07-2004, 10:46 PM

it was a question about my sig and some trouble i was having. should I send it again?

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06-07-2004, 05:41 PM	#34
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06-07-2004, 06:31 PM	#38
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06-07-2004, 05:39 PM	#33
Evil ANT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 629 Photos: 3	Nah, she wouldn't leave me. She'd be pretty pissed, but I know she wouldn't leave me. I'd just have to hear about it for the rest of my life. I'm not sure if you use, but if you do, you're putting gear above your wife, too. You don't have to necessarily be doing it consciously, but you're still doing it. I mean, if you get busted, you're going away for a long time and it's not fair to her, you know? This is another reason I'm probably done with the stuff. Maybe customs seizing my stuff was exactly what I needed.

06-07-2004, 05:43 PM	#35
Evil ANT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 629 Photos: 3	I'm thinkin' I agree with you. Not worth going to prison over. I think I'll stick to being less strong and having a free life I can live with my wife.

06-07-2004, 06:19 PM	#37
Evil ANT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 629 Photos: 3	My stance was that this legal stuff is so damn expensive, it's cheaper to buy actual gear, you know? I go into GNC and see bottles of legal crap that are damn expensive. For the same price I could get stuff that really, really works - and a lot more of it.

06-07-2004, 06:48 PM	#40
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	I would consider yourself lucky bro. I have heard of many cases where someone ordered internationally and they received a seizure letter from customs. Not once in those cases did they come after that person. If they wanted you, they would have done a controlled delivery. They sure as hell aren't going to give you advance warning in the form of a seizure letter upfront. To be safe though, I suggest cleaning your house of all gear, syringes, pins, etc. I'm no expert, but that is common sense. IMO, domestic sources ordered thru secure email is the best way to go. Realize ALL international shipments are subject to customs and postal inspection. With domestic USPS first class, priority and express mail, postal inspections can only take place if the package is deemed suspicious. i.e leaking, smells, or poorly packaged with the contents visible, etc.

06-07-2004, 06:58 PM	#41
Evil ANT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 629 Photos: 3	Okay, I've made sure my house is clean, just in case. I really appreciate everyone's advice. I would love to order domestically, but I've never been able to find a source. I'm not about to hang out at my local gym and ask around, either.

06-07-2004, 07:23 PM	#43
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Well you can't argue with that, its a personal choice that someone has to make yay or nay.

06-07-2004, 07:30 PM	#47
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,418	Evil Ant, have you gotten all the other stuff you are expecting? That makes me nervous when some of the packages arrives and other parts do not. I'd stay away from Int'l for awhile and have deliveries sent elsewhere.

06-07-2004, 09:21 PM	#50
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	I agree, no need to freak out. I would just want to know everything I could so I was prepared to handle things that may come up

06-07-2004, 10:36 PM	#58
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	I will go back over it and see what I can come up with for you fellas. give me some time.. hey Prince, I sent ya a PM a few days ago, did you get it?

06-07-2004, 10:46 PM	#60
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	it was a question about my sig and some trouble i was having. should I send it again?

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