Winstrol and PCT.

trHawT · 06-23-2004, 06:44 AM

Hello. Quick question for fellow juicers. Is PCT a MUST when taking 50mg ED (oral) Winstrol for eight to ten weeks? Some person on another board said it will shut down my natural test. I read that Winstrol has possible anti-estrogen properties. It doesn't aromatize at all, which is good. However, will Winstrol shut down your natural test? I heard it's a good idea to use Nolvadex/Clomid on every steroid cycle. Thanks!

Stats:

5'5 1/2" - 5'6"
140 lbs.
between 10% - 11% body fat
been training for a good 2 years
25 years old

Also, about how many calories would you recommend I consume while on Winstrol? Does it take between 2 and 3 weeks to see visible results?

scott castle · 06-23-2004, 09:00 AM

with out a doubt it does shut you down ..i have done it by itself many times over the past 10 years. calories any diet cant help u on that subject

**Mudge** · 06-23-2004, 09:28 AM

The anti estrogen claims are a bunch of bullcrap, but the legend is anti progesterone not estrogen. Either way its bullcrap, yes you need PCT almost ANYTHING will shut down your HPTA, steroids certainly will.

Very few items dont mess with it.

Even if it were so simple as running an anti estrogen with your cycle, dont you think everyone would be year rounding it with nolvadex and their cycle? It doesn't work like that.

Calories depends on what in the heck you are doing. Winny wont put much on you anyway.

trHawT · 06-23-2004, 09:58 AM

Thanks, guys! Really informative.

LAM · 06-23-2004, 11:08 AM

I wouldn't use winstrol alone for a cycle...you should also be using some kind of test, prop would be optimum...

**Mudge** · 06-23-2004, 11:42 AM

Winny dick sounds like a blast.

JerseyDevil · 06-23-2004, 08:35 PM

Definitely do pct after a winny cycle. That myth started because some assumed that because winstrol drys you out, it is also an anti-estrogen.... not true.

Winny by itself won't put much weight on you. Like LAM said, run with test, prop being ideal. In fact, I'm trying that right now. Running 150-180mg eod of prop for 6 weeks now, and started oral winstrol, 50mg ed a week ago. So far, I'm impressed. In just 6 days, I've dropped some BF, gained 2 lbs, and bench went up 10 lbs.

TrojanMan60563 · 06-23-2004, 09:00 PM

All this gear talk is making me so excited about getting back on. Doc better give me something for the anxiety this friday or I am going to be pissed.

TrojanMan60563 · 06-23-2004, 09:01 PM

To get back on the subject from what I have read just about everything requires a PCT except something like GH.

06-23-2004, 06:44 AM	#1
trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	Winstrol and PCT. Hello. Quick question for fellow juicers. Is PCT a MUST when taking 50mg ED (oral) Winstrol for eight to ten weeks? Some person on another board said it will shut down my natural test. I read that Winstrol has possible anti-estrogen properties. It doesn't aromatize at all, which is good. However, will Winstrol shut down your natural test? I heard it's a good idea to use Nolvadex/Clomid on every steroid cycle. Thanks! Stats: 5'5 1/2" - 5'6" 140 lbs. between 10% - 11% body fat been training for a good 2 years 25 years old Also, about how many calories would you recommend I consume while on Winstrol? Does it take between 2 and 3 weeks to see visible results? Last edited by trHawT : 06-23-2004 at 07:16 AM.

06-23-2004, 09:28 AM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	The anti estrogen claims are a bunch of bullcrap, but the legend is anti progesterone not estrogen. Either way its bullcrap, yes you need PCT almost ANYTHING will shut down your HPTA, steroids certainly will. Very few items dont mess with it. Even if it were so simple as running an anti estrogen with your cycle, dont you think everyone would be year rounding it with nolvadex and their cycle? It doesn't work like that. Calories depends on what in the heck you are doing. Winny wont put much on you anyway. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

06-23-2004, 11:08 AM	#5
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I wouldn't use winstrol alone for a cycle...you should also be using some kind of test, prop would be optimum... Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

06-23-2004, 11:42 AM	#6
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,435 Photos: 1	Winny dick sounds like a blast. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

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06-23-2004, 09:00 AM	#2
scott castle Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 29	with out a doubt it does shut you down ..i have done it by itself many times over the past 10 years. calories any diet cant help u on that subject

06-23-2004, 09:58 AM	#4
trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	Thanks, guys! Really informative.

06-23-2004, 08:35 PM	#7
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,565	Definitely do pct after a winny cycle. That myth started because some assumed that because winstrol drys you out, it is also an anti-estrogen.... not true. Winny by itself won't put much weight on you. Like LAM said, run with test, prop being ideal. In fact, I'm trying that right now. Running 150-180mg eod of prop for 6 weeks now, and started oral winstrol, 50mg ed a week ago. So far, I'm impressed. In just 6 days, I've dropped some BF, gained 2 lbs, and bench went up 10 lbs.

06-23-2004, 09:00 PM	#8
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,387 Photos: 1	All this gear talk is making me so excited about getting back on. Doc better give me something for the anxiety this friday or I am going to be pissed.

06-23-2004, 09:01 PM	#9
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,387 Photos: 1	To get back on the subject from what I have read just about everything requires a PCT except something like GH.

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