Various types of Clen?

**Pirate!** · 07-26-2004, 08:18 AM

Are there different types of clenbuterol? Do different pharmacies make inferior clen?

trHawT · 07-26-2004, 08:20 AM

IP (super clen), Ventapulmin, Spiropent, etc.

**Pirate!** · 07-26-2004, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

IP (super clen), Ventapulmin, Spiropent, etc.

Exactly what I need to know. Found 20 from spiropent for $20 or 20 from Novegam for $7. Not familiar with Novegam? What about Oxiflux (pharmacy name)?

trHawT · 07-26-2004, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Exactly what I need to know. Found 20 from spiropent for $20 or 20 from Novegam for $7. Not familiar with Novegam? What about Oxiflux (pharmacy name)?

Just different brands. Heard of Novegam. All do the same thing.

LAM · 07-26-2004, 01:54 PM

for the most part clen is clen...

IP super clen is a little different since it is made in a UL lab and it contains the added ingredient ketofin. ketofin keeps the A2 receptors from down-regulating. that way you can use it for extended periods of time and do not have to cycle it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. you could just run it for 8 weeks straight, etc...

**Pirate!** · 07-26-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

for the most part clen is clen...

IP super clen is a little different since it is made in a UL lab and it contains the added ingredient ketofin. ketofin keeps the A2 receptors from down-regulating. that way you can use it for extended periods of time and do not have to cycle it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. you could just run it for 8 weeks straight, etc...

Great! Thanks Lam. I would certainly opt for a longer cycle if it doesn't stress me out like ECA does. So normal Clenbuterol HCL like this one: http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/...10276d90afb123 doesn't have ketofin?

LAM · 07-26-2004, 03:25 PM

I don't belive so...

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 05:43 PM

I, personally, wouldn't run it eight weeks straight. I prefer 2 days on/2 days off (set by a trainer). Don't you have to supplement with Taurine? That would be something that a person would need to include.

LAM · 07-27-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

I, personally, wouldn't run it eight weeks straight. I prefer 2 days on/2 days off (set by a trainer). Don't you have to supplement with Taurine? That would be something that a person would need to include.

2 days on and 2 days off is pointless due to the long half-life of clenbuterol...

**Mudge** · 07-27-2004, 06:14 PM

I've seen trainers recommend 2 grams of juice a week to newbies and then 2 weeks off, yeah trainers know everything all right.

Of course if they looked up the 35 hour half life maybe they might figure something out.

TrojanMan60563 · 07-27-2004, 07:04 PM

Hey if I have issues with ECA stack with heart racing 100+ and feeling very shakey what are the odds clen will be as bad or worse?

**Pirate!** · 07-27-2004, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Hey if I have issues with ECA stack with heart racing 100+ and feeling very shakey what are the odds clen will be as bad or worse?

I'll let you know in two weeks. I am in the same boat, but I'm gonna try it.

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 09:23 PM

Well, considering this guy is @ 250 lbs., about 3% bodyfat. I think I would take his advice. His trainer is a pro, also.
Have you guys ever heard of Don Youngblood?

Clen has a half-life of around 35 hours.

LAM · 07-27-2004, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

Well, considering this guy is @ 250 lbs., about 3% bodyfat. I think I would take his advice. His trainer is a pro, also. Of course, this guy is on other stuff besides Clen.
Have you guys ever heard of Don Youngblood?

Clen has a half-life of around 35 hours.

so because your trainer is big he knows more than science ? lol, you are a trip..I have some beach front property here in Vegas you may be interested in purchasing

TrojanMan60563 · 07-27-2004, 09:42 PM

Hey Lam do you ever see Jay Cutler around town? He is one awesome guy to talk to. He guest poses at the IL State show every year. I finally got to meet him this year at the show. What a guy!

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

so because your trainer is big he knows more than science ? lol, you are a trip..I have some beach front property here in Vegas you may be interested in purchasing

He's not my trainer. Never said that. I don't agree with some of his ideas, but I won't argue with him. I think the initial thought is, "Hey, this guy is ripped and huge, he must be doing something right!" People tend to go with results over science . Some people might have the knowledge, but lack in physical results.

LAM · 07-27-2004, 09:44 PM

no, I haven't seen him. I didn't know that he lived in Vegas.

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

so because your trainer is big he knows more than science ? lol, you are a trip..I have some beach front property here in Vegas you may be interested in purchasing

WTF? Makes no sense.

LAM · 07-27-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

WTF? Makes no sense.

no, your logic makes no sense.

clen has a half-life of 35 hours so what is the point of taking it 2 days on and 2 days off ? because your big trainer told you ?...yea, that makes a lot of sense...

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 09:51 PM

LAM, do you not listen? He isn't my trainer. lol. Well, from what I've read, it is 35 hours. Not to be in a bitching contest, but I'd like to see you say that to his face.
That would be cool.

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 09:52 PM

People lean toward results than talk and text and science, etc.

LAM · 07-27-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

LAM, do you not listen? He isn't my trainer. lol. Well, from what I've read, it is 35 hours. Not to be in a bitching contest, but I'd like to see you say that to his face.
That would be cool.

what difference does it make if he is your trainer. there is no purpose to cycle clen 2 days on and 2 days off. it takes several weeks of use for the beta-2 receptors that clen targets to downregulate. and if the half-life of clen is amost 2 days, what exactly is the point of using that protocol...

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

People lean toward results than talk and text and science, etc.

I could devise a diet for myself; however, if I don't put it to use, it's useless. Friend's trainer = RESULTS His opinion on cycling Clen: 2 days on/2 days off. Would you go with someone that's inferior, or one that isn't? That's as simple as logic gets!

LAM · 07-27-2004, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

I could devise a diet for myself; however, if I don't put it to use, it's useless. Friend's trainer = RESULTS His opinion on cycling Clen: 2 days on/2 days off. Would you go with someone that's inferior, or one that isn't? That's as simple as logic gets!

you are an idiot...

Monolith · 07-27-2004, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

you are an idiot...

Feels good to finally let it out, doesnt it?

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

what difference does it make if he is your trainer. there is no purpose to cycle clen 2 days on and 2 days off. it takes several weeks of use for the beta-2 receptors that clen targets to downregulate. and if the half-life of clen is amost 2 days, what exactly is the point of using that protocol...

The fact that he isn't my trainer, doesn't matter, bro. Can you show me something legit concerning "several weeks of use for the beta-2 receptors that clen targets to downregulate?" I thought you said run it eight weeks straight. Would that not go against what you're saying above? Contradiction?

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

you are an idiot...

That's what I thought. Speechless. I guess your boy, Mono, had to drop in. That's what happens with these sites. People are buddy-buddy, and they like to talk trash to people that are new. They think they're somebody by belonging to a forum, or they have 10,000 posts. Like that really means anything to people in the real world. Quality vs. quantity. That's what it boils down to, correct?

trHawT · 07-27-2004, 10:09 PM

I won't let two idiots ruin my stay here. I'll rise above, and get over it. Forums will always have a handful of idiots.

LAM · 07-27-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

The fact that he isn't my trainer, doesn't matter, bro. Can you show me something legit concerning "several weeks of use for the beta-2 receptors that clen targets to downregulate?" I thought you said run it eight weeks straight. Would that not go against what you're saying above? Contradiction?

If you actually READ what I posted. I said that IP superclen contain ketofin which prevents the beta-2 receptors from downregulating. that is why you could run it for 8 weeks straight or even longer.

if you wanted you could run this stak all year round:

1. 60 mcg clenbuterol
2. 1 mg ketofin
3. 20 mcg T3

Monolith · 07-27-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by trHawT

That's what I thought. Speechless. I guess your boy, Mono, had to drop in. That's what happens with these sites. People are buddy-buddy, and they like to talk trash to people that are new. They think they're somebody by belonging to a forum, or they have 10,000 posts. Like that really means anything to people in the real world. Quality vs. quantity. That's what it boils down to, correct?

Just for the record, that was my first post in this entire thread... and it wasnt even related to clen.

And you are an idiot.

07-26-2004, 08:18 AM	#1
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,172	Various types of Clen? Are there different types of clenbuterol? Do different pharmacies make inferior clen?

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07-26-2004, 01:54 PM	#5
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	for the most part clen is clen... IP super clen is a little different since it is made in a UL lab and it contains the added ingredient ketofin. ketofin keeps the A2 receptors from down-regulating. that way you can use it for extended periods of time and do not have to cycle it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. you could just run it for 8 weeks straight, etc... Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

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LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I don't belive so... Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

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trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	I, personally, wouldn't run it eight weeks straight. I prefer 2 days on/2 days off (set by a trainer). Don't you have to supplement with Taurine? That would be something that a person would need to include. -trHawT-

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TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,392 Photos: 1	Hey if I have issues with ECA stack with heart racing 100+ and feeling very shakey what are the odds clen will be as bad or worse?

07-27-2004, 09:23 PM	#13
trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	Well, considering this guy is @ 250 lbs., about 3% bodyfat. I think I would take his advice. His trainer is a pro, also. Have you guys ever heard of Don Youngblood? Clen has a half-life of around 35 hours. -trHawT- Last edited by trHawT : 07-28-2004 at 11:19 AM.

07-27-2004, 09:42 PM	#15
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,392 Photos: 1	Hey Lam do you ever see Jay Cutler around town? He is one awesome guy to talk to. He guest poses at the IL State show every year. I finally got to meet him this year at the show. What a guy!

07-27-2004, 09:44 PM	#17
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	no, I haven't seen him. I didn't know that he lived in Vegas. Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

07-27-2004, 09:51 PM	#20
trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	LAM, do you not listen? He isn't my trainer. lol. Well, from what I've read, it is 35 hours. Not to be in a bitching contest, but I'd like to see you say that to his face. That would be cool. -trHawT-

07-27-2004, 09:52 PM	#21
trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	People lean toward results than talk and text and science, etc. -trHawT-

07-27-2004, 10:09 PM	#28
trHawT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 465	I won't let two idiots ruin my stay here. I'll rise above, and get over it. Forums will always have a handful of idiots. -trHawT-

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