roid novice seeks advice

pengers84 · 08-30-2004, 01:09 AM

hey,
im a 20 year old male about 5ft 11 and 200lbs, ive been doing weights for 5 years now and am considering taking steroids, ive been doing a bit of research and am very confused, its like studying chemistry. basically i want to give my gym training a bit of a boost. i want to get bigger and more ripped in the safest possible way. i dont want to be covered in acne and have shruken sexual organs. i want gains that can be maintained i dont care if it takes a little longer if its a little safer. if any of you roid experts could help me out it would be hugely apreciated. what i want to know is what to cycle? why you would recomend it? the good effects? and the bad effects? and if theres anyway to minimize these bad effects?
thanks heaps guys.

**Mudge** · 08-30-2004, 01:24 AM

Your dick wont shrink, as for your balls its possible with any steroid you would take.

You are asking basically for a book, poke around the forums, find as many FAQs as you can - use Google as well.

A good general first cycle is testosterone, 400-600mg a week for about 10 weeks. There is a sticky at the top of the forum with some information on various post cycle protocols.

I would hope that nobody would hand you all the answers on a plate, because that wont help you gain a true understanding of any of it. Yes there are risks, there always are, you would be medicating yourself without the aid of a doctor to monitor you.

Purdue Power · 08-30-2004, 03:56 PM

Before you jump into steroids(illegal ones anyways) you should first try some prohormones and prosteroids. While they are in fact mild steroids, they are legal and have less potential for serious side effects. Read the PH/PS faq http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=27368 (Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know!) and you will definately find some good stuff. I have ran a few cycles of them, and have gotten great results. Read up on the 1Test/4AD stack(also sold as S1+) and you will surely find it to be a great alternative to the illegal route.

redspy · 08-30-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

..While they are in fact mild steroids, they are legal and have less potential for serious side effects.

Purdue - I'm not trying to be argumentative but that's a very broad statement. Steroids like M1T, although legal, potentially have very powerful side effects. A lot of the other new methylated prosteroids have little scientific testing behind them so we can only speculate on the long term effects. I'm not advocating AAS use, just pointing out that there are no 100% safe options when playing around with hormones.

**Pirate!** · 08-30-2004, 04:43 PM

On another forum, I had a few AAS vets tell me that M1T shut them down harder than any AAS they ever tried. And this is with 3-4 week cycles, not the 10+weeks common with AAS. I imagine M1T is worse for you than exogenous testosterone. I'm not saying it is, but I'd bet on it.

TrojanMan60563 · 08-30-2004, 11:52 PM

I think M1T is worse then taking real test. M1T makes most people so lethargic they can't workout and feel like poo. Most people get high BP resulting in nosebleeds. That doesn't sound too mild. IMO a steroid thats been used by people for decades is safer and more is known about it then the new PH steroids. The only one I have taken that I didn't feel was overly harsh is 1-TU. I really liked it and would do it again if it were not so expensive to cycle. May as well just buy regular test for the price of it.

Purdue Power · 09-02-2004, 01:30 AM

No, I agree, if actual steriods were legal then I would use them. It is just the current legality issues. I think that there are many ph options other than M1T, such as 1AD or a 1AD/4AD stack that would work well too. I do agree that the sides for real gear are much more well known than that of PHs, again, it is just the legality issues.

TrojanMan60563 · 09-04-2004, 12:08 PM

Well personally if I were you and your just worried about staying legal give the 1-TU a 6 week run at the max dose. You will needs two bottles of it. Expect to pay around $60 a bottle. Its a bit expensive but it worked really well for me. I will run another cycle of it again. When I don't know since I am more interested in real gear at the moment.

ZorroAzul · 09-04-2004, 12:46 PM

Who cares about staying legal?? not even our presidents have been legal all the time, so get over it and shoot some gear. Just keep it private and you'll be fine.

HomerJSimpson · 09-04-2004, 01:36 PM

Can you mix in a cycle 1-TU and anavar?

08-30-2004, 01:09 AM	#1
pengers84 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 551	roid novice seeks advice hey, im a 20 year old male about 5ft 11 and 200lbs, ive been doing weights for 5 years now and am considering taking steroids, ive been doing a bit of research and am very confused, its like studying chemistry. basically i want to give my gym training a bit of a boost. i want to get bigger and more ripped in the safest possible way. i dont want to be covered in acne and have shruken sexual organs. i want gains that can be maintained i dont care if it takes a little longer if its a little safer. if any of you roid experts could help me out it would be hugely apreciated. what i want to know is what to cycle? why you would recomend it? the good effects? and the bad effects? and if theres anyway to minimize these bad effects? thanks heaps guys.

08-30-2004, 01:24 AM	#2
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Your dick wont shrink, as for your balls its possible with any steroid you would take. You are asking basically for a book, poke around the forums, find as many FAQs as you can - use Google as well. A good general first cycle is testosterone, 400-600mg a week for about 10 weeks. There is a sticky at the top of the forum with some information on various post cycle protocols. I would hope that nobody would hand you all the answers on a plate, because that wont help you gain a true understanding of any of it. Yes there are risks, there always are, you would be medicating yourself without the aid of a doctor to monitor you. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

08-30-2004, 03:56 PM	#3
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Before you jump into steroids(illegal ones anyways) you should first try some prohormones and prosteroids. While they are in fact mild steroids, they are legal and have less potential for serious side effects. Read the PH/PS faq http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=27368 (Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know!) and you will definately find some good stuff. I have ran a few cycles of them, and have gotten great results. Read up on the 1Test/4AD stack(also sold as S1+) and you will surely find it to be a great alternative to the illegal route. 5'8 1/2, 225lbs Your M1T Info Source Dream as though you'll live forever, Live each day like it's you last. Love like you've never been hurt. Tomorrow is never promised.

08-30-2004, 04:43 PM	#5
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,173	On another forum, I had a few AAS vets tell me that M1T shut them down harder than any AAS they ever tried. And this is with 3-4 week cycles, not the 10+weeks common with AAS. I imagine M1T is worse for you than exogenous testosterone. I'm not saying it is, but I'd bet on it. My 1-Andro RX Journal

09-02-2004, 01:30 AM	#7
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	No, I agree, if actual steriods were legal then I would use them. It is just the current legality issues. I think that there are many ph options other than M1T, such as 1AD or a 1AD/4AD stack that would work well too. I do agree that the sides for real gear are much more well known than that of PHs, again, it is just the legality issues. 5'8 1/2, 225lbs Your M1T Info Source Dream as though you'll live forever, Live each day like it's you last. Love like you've never been hurt. Tomorrow is never promised.

08-30-2004, 11:52 PM	#6
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,393 Photos: 1	I think M1T is worse then taking real test. M1T makes most people so lethargic they can't workout and feel like poo. Most people get high BP resulting in nosebleeds. That doesn't sound too mild. IMO a steroid thats been used by people for decades is safer and more is known about it then the new PH steroids. The only one I have taken that I didn't feel was overly harsh is 1-TU. I really liked it and would do it again if it were not so expensive to cycle. May as well just buy regular test for the price of it.

09-04-2004, 12:08 PM	#8
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,393 Photos: 1	Well personally if I were you and your just worried about staying legal give the 1-TU a 6 week run at the max dose. You will needs two bottles of it. Expect to pay around $60 a bottle. Its a bit expensive but it worked really well for me. I will run another cycle of it again. When I don't know since I am more interested in real gear at the moment.

09-04-2004, 12:46 PM	#9
ZorroAzul keep religion to yourself Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 302	Who cares about staying legal?? not even our presidents have been legal all the time, so get over it and shoot some gear. Just keep it private and you'll be fine. Gambatte!

09-04-2004, 01:36 PM	#10
HomerJSimpson Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 8	Can you mix in a cycle 1-TU and anavar?

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