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Old 08-30-2004, 09:36 PM   #1
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What Compliments HGH Best?

I have been taking HGH for a month now. My dosage is 6iu's a day, 5 days on, 2 days off. Basically, I shoot 6iu's in the morning Monday-Friday and take a break Saturday and Sunday. I have seen some benefits already, most apparent in my now thorough digestive system. I will remain on HGH for a minimum of 6 months. Had never planned to stop but a pharmacist told me that if you take it for 3 months it will continue working for a year. He said continuing is a waste of money as there is no added benefit. If what he says is bogus I would continue taking HGH indefinitely.

What would you recommend to accompany the HGH to put on a little size. I know its going to take time, effort, and alot of food to put on some size but I am prepared. I would prefer something that didnt cause me to break out. Also, I'd rather avoid testosterone or any other androgens.

I hope you can help, and I hope I've given you the information you needed. My stats follow:

25yo 5'9" 120lbs....I've begun HGH treatment to fight wasting and need something to pick up the pace some.

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Old 08-30-2004, 10:11 PM   #2
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Insulin. If you can get your hands on something like Glucophage, try that. If not, try an "insulin potentiator" like r-ALA. Also, a clean diet, like any other bodybuilding bulking diet. Eat more protein around the time you take insulin, and you should get great gains.



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Forgot to mention that I am a Type 1 Diabetic. Currently I take Lantus as my base line and take Humalog at meals on a sliding scale. Since beginning the HGH treatment I have had to double the amount of insulin I take to keep my blood sugars at acceptable levels.
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Well slim you could try using a mild steroid like Anavar..But its not going to add much size to you. To get decent gains you would have to take a fairly high amount of it..and that could get costly. Obviously if your doing 6iu of HGH a day money is not an object. Anavar is a safe mild steroid. Its mostly used by women. It was designed to treat women and children. If anyone else can think of a steroid that fits the bill feel free to chime in.
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If you have a wasting disease problem why are you avoiding androgens? Most of the oral steroid treatments are just that, heavy androgens.



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I don't want the consequences of taking androgens. Would prefer to take another route.
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Which would those be, blood pressure or what? Yes I'm honestly curious.



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Agree with Mudge, why aren't you going with AAS? What consecuences?



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I most likely have been misinformed but I associate the aggressive, overly confident attitude of many men at my gym with an unusual amount of testosterone flowing through their veins. Also, there is the water weight gain and swelling, protruding abdomen, constant redness and high body temperature. All this amongst other things have made me hesitant. I did for a brief period, about 3 weeks, inject what I know now to be a low (even for a beginner) dose of testoprim. I don't believe if you combined all the pimples I've had from the start of puberty up until the test use would it have equaled the plague of acne I suffered for weeks after cesation.

If I'm wrong please correct me and suggest what I might take. Seems the Anavar suggested above, like HGH, hasn't been associated with noticable gains.
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It seems that given your delicate situation your diet is the biggest factor, but I would seriously consider a moderate dose of AAS or something that increases protein synthesis and slows catabolism. D-bol might be good for this if you don't want to shoot test. I am no expert though, just a thought.



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I most likely have been misinformed but I associate the aggressive, overly confident attitude of many men at my gym with an unusual amount of testosterone flowing through their veins.
I've done plenty of test and it doesn't hit my mood in a negative way at all. I am supprised your doctor did not suggest something to get your RBC count up already, unless at the moment that is not a problem for you yet.

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protruding abdomen, constant redness
Actually we call that GH gut, steroid gut would be a misnomer. Since people have done 20iu ED without GH gut, yet Ronnie Coleman has it at a supposed 30+iu ED, who knows whats going on.

Constant redness? What exactly are you talking about... there are plenty of non-red bodybuilders who are on year round.



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D-bol might be good for this if you don't want to shoot test. I am no expert though, just a thought.
This is not a legal prescription drug in the US so they wont give it to him anyway, Anadrol has replaced it. Definitely known for water retention but if you really need it who cares. Virtually anything that gives noticeable gains will throw on water weight, if you dont like it then they can give you something if your blood pressure gets out of whack. I use letrozol.



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you can also use EQ to get the RBC count up



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you don't want to run AAS but you are running GH?! not really sure how you skipped that step but alright. Just don't take it over board with the AAS and you will be fine.



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Hey Slim the steroids that are known to put a decent amount of muscles on someone also have the worst side effects in general. There is a price to pay for everything you do in life. I don't know if you have a medical problem thats causing you to waste away but if so what have you got to lose? If the water retention gets bad you can get something like mudge suggested, or get the doc to put you on Lasix. I wouldn't mess with lasix on your own unless you know what your doing. It can be very dangerous. Anywho if putting on size is an attempt to keep your ass alive then you better forget about the acne or the balding and start shooting some gear into you booty. Good luck!
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I suppose the wasting is due to Type 1 Diabetes?



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well will 4 weeks dianobol b ok then safe do u think will i c good gains
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will i b a spotty baldy bugga or wat
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but I associate the aggressive, overly confident attitude of many men at my gym with an unusual amount of testosterone flowing through their veins. Also, there is the water weight gain and swelling, protruding abdomen, constant redness and high body temperature. All this amongst other things have made me hesitant. I did for a brief period, about 3 weeks, inject what I know now to be a low (even for a beginner) dose of testoprim. I don't believe if you combined all the pimples I've had from the start of puberty up until the test use would it have equaled the plague of acne I suffered for weeks after cesation.
As to tha above statement, I FEEL YA !!!!!!!!!! I'm tha fuck'n anti-Christ to tha Test cats around this board. I hate that shit. It does a number on me too. I get tha headaches, pimples, itchy nips, shortness of breath, all that shit. Everybody be scream'n "Test is Best", it might well be for most but for me ( and it sounds like you too) Test ain't SHIT but trouble! Dawg I don't know about tha use of insulin, shit , I was scared of T3 until about 2 months ago. I do know that insulin is some shit you gotta get exact or you ass out homey! Tha homey GR kicked it wit me bout that insulin , and ya better be bout it, bout it if ya even fuck wit it. Peace n Love



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