Need advisement

**Duncans Donuts** · 09-17-2004, 02:27 PM

I am doing research into an AAS cycle. I'm being enormously cautious and wanted to submit this to the experts and laypersons around here. I am looking into a 6 week cycle and had come up with this thus far:

week one: test prop/test enanthate 750 mg / Anadrol 100 mg / Insulin
week two: test enanthate 750mg / Anadrol 100 mg / Insulin
week three: test enanthate 750mg / Anadrol 100 mg / Insulin
week four: test enanthate 750mg / Anadrol 100 mg / Insulin
week five: test enanthate 750mg / Insulin
week six: test enanthate 750mg / Insulin

Looking at .5 mg femara eod during the training and PCT with nolva. I have discussed things with my doctor and have had pre blood work done and will have blood work done every other week per his request. I am a type 1 diabetic with perfectly healthy kidneys and normal liver values. My Ha1c (average mean blood sugar) is in the range of 4-4.5. My cycle is not finalized and I would greatly appreciate any feedback. I brought up Anadrol with an exercise physiologist friend of mine working out of UNC and he told me quite bluntly that the dangers associated with it are ridiculously overhyped (is this true?).

Also, does anyone know how much insulin will help a cycle like this? I've had good results with insulin by itself (roughly a pound and a half of muscle in 8 weeks while maintaing low calories according to rough caliper tests).

**Mudge** · 09-17-2004, 02:28 PM

If you are only doing 6 weeks then run prop, not enanthate.

**Duncans Donuts** · 09-17-2004, 02:30 PM

Will do. Should I maybe increase the length of the cycle? Is 6 weeks a stupid idea? I could just as well lower the T:E dose and run it for 8. What is your recommendation?

**Mudge** · 09-17-2004, 02:37 PM

6 is awfull short, in this "game" clean or juiced TIME is the most important factor, when all other things like diet and training are in line. 8-10 weeks is the generic "short cycle" time duration unless you are doing PH.

**Duncans Donuts** · 09-17-2004, 02:44 PM

Acknowledged, thanks Mudge, always learning stuff from you

I'll stretch it to 8 weeks in that case (maybe longer, I'll discuss with doc). I saw you posted an HIV point on anadrol and it's safety; how much of the anadrol gains will I be able to maintain with an appropriate diet and the injectables? The biggest gripe I've seen with Anadrol is that it's difficult to keep what is gained while on it. Is it worth the bucks?

IN any case thanks, bud.

**Mudge** · 09-17-2004, 03:14 PM

I can keep most of the strength it seems if you have some solid injectables with it, as for mass gains its hard to say. I picked up a pound a day for the first 3 weeks running it some time ago, but I hardly ever saw where it went, I'm tall so those pounds just stretch out and are hard to see sometimes.

**gr81** · 09-17-2004, 05:43 PM

DD, I would run a longer cycle than 6 weeks bro, depending on what you run, if you run a longer ester you will just begin to see results around week 4-5, why cut that short. Like mudge said you could run prop for a short cycle like that, but fucc injecting ED. Go 8-12 weeks, its no less safe and the longer the better IMO unless you are talkin crazy lengths. I would pick Cyp or enanthate and go with that for a first run personally, easy to manage. As for the unsulin, I know you know, but don't worry about bumpin up the doses really. keep it within reason. More is not better, whatever you are running now, stay within that ballpark and let it do its work. how do you feel about running something else along with your test?

**Duncans Donuts** · 09-17-2004, 05:47 PM

Thanks for the input gr8.

Yeah I'm going to extend the cycle to roughly 8-10 weeks, 750 mg of test enanthate a week plus the first 4 weeks with Anadrol. I'm hoping that the insulin for the latter end of the cycle will be synergestic enough. You think I should throw anything else into the mix? This is my 2nd attempt at anabolics so I don't want to go overboard.

**Mudge** · 09-17-2004, 06:16 PM

You dont want to go overboard huh, well thats a pretty good sized cycle.

**Flex** · 09-17-2004, 06:20 PM

drol, enan and slin and you don't wanna go overboard? sheesh.

**BUSTINOUT** · 09-17-2004, 06:53 PM

To answer one of your questions, don't plan on keeping alot of your drol size gains. Of course that can depend a little on how much you gain on it in the first place.

**Duncans Donuts** · 09-17-2004, 07:02 PM

Enan + Drol is what the cycle really is, insulin is something I have to inject to maintain life.

Too much? If it is I can drop the drol and just run enanthate.

**Flex** · 09-17-2004, 09:00 PM

4 weeks drol and 10 weeks of enan is a cycle you should see some seroius gains on...

**Pirate!** · 09-17-2004, 09:51 PM

Why not use d-bol instead of anadrol for the first four weeks, and go with 10-12 weeks off enanthate? (with some HCG) Seems like a liberal amount of test for your second cycle. Good call on the femera, IMO.

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