garo

WHat do you think about these cycles.It's 8 week cycle for intermediate people.I've read this book (Layman's book of steroids) and I think it's awesome.This guy knows a lot about the steroids. I should start my second cycle at the end of month and I need your opinion.30 years old, 6'1" 188lb.
If you don't like it please tell me what would you change in the cycle.
Thanks

Attached Images

	scan1c.jpg (51.3 KB, 82 views)
	scan2c.jpg (54.0 KB, 32 views)

Mudge

250 test? Nearly worthless. 15mg anavar? Nearly worthless. 200 deca? Dont bother. There is no point to overcomplicating things by running 3 drugs for a newbie.

Sorry, but 188 pounds is not intermediate in any sense of the word, unless you were 5'4". I've got about 70 pounds on you and if I competed, I would not be considered intermediate.

Fix up the diet, and stop reading Mick Hart.

Just my opinion.

Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin
When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

Duncans Donuts

Awful

"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

Tough Old Man

SHXT Mudge, new pic and new attitude. I don't know which one I like best!

cman

I too have read Mick hart and believe he knows what he is talking about. I have a freind who has been trying to coax me into doing some test 250 and stacking it with deca, as he did. When i left az he was benching 285 in one year is now benching 430lbs he is 5'10" and weighs 185. I saw him a month ago and he is not carrying a lot of water. He is cut pretty good and looks huge. When I saw what test 250 and deca did for him I bought some. Maybe it will give me same results maybe not. But i know you got to go with proven results. Not trying to offend anyone, Just my opinion.

Go with what you know works.

TrojanMan60563

I think if someone is getting results from using less then that is best. I've known guys that have used Sustanon at 250mg per week and had great gains. I don't know how long he was using but he was lean, dry, and very big. Considering he was asian with small bones he put on large amounts of muscle.

LAM

so are you saying that your friend had to use gear just to get to 185 lbs ? if so, his diet or his training sucked ass before he started using AAS...

Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov

TBD

-----------------------------------------------------

What you talking about Willis ?

cman

No. Sorry i retyped some things in there and did not move that. when i saw him before the move he was 185. I do not know what he weighs now. I did not ask. But if i would have past him on the street i would not have recognized him. I know he had to put on 18 to 20 lbs of beef. He has always had big legs and decent chest and arms but his chest and arms grew alot. He said he was doing the same work out he always did but his upper body grew better.

Mudge

20 pounds and you wouldn't recognize him?

Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin
When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

PreMier

He also hasnt seen him bench 430... He 'heard' it. For all you know, your friend could be full of shit.

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

cman

How much do you bench Premier? he is about your size now.

cman

Add 20lbs to some one your size and you would look bigger. Some one 185 lbs?
Especially if most went up top. His profile was completly dif.