do you have any shot at going to the NFL? Are you at a division I college? Are you a starter? If not, why waste you time.
i started the post and got replies about my d-bol/test cycle and now have some related questions.....im 21 and play college football. right now i am 207lbs and play outside linebacker. i want the mass first and foremost. prefererably to about 225-230, but i cant afford to lose much 40 time either. what else can i do to keep my speed up while keeping my newly acquired mass on? lots of stretching etc. also many guys have taken steroids at school and then soon after tore mcl/acl/miniscus...and rumors are because steroids weaken ligaments, and the new muscle mass from steroid cycles over power your ligaments in the cutting and twisting motions...is this true? thanks again
do you have any shot at going to the NFL? Are you at a division I college? Are you a starter? If not, why waste you time.
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Watch your diet so you gain mostly LBM and not tons of fat, voila.
Cortisol suppression can be dangerous for your body, but in most peoples cases, high volume training, extended durations of heavy weight lifting, fast strength gains - are going to be the main components of stress to joints and connective tissues.
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some steroids increase collagen synthesis (EQ) while others decrease it (test). winstrol for example increase collagen synthesis and increases the cross-sectional area of tendons making them bigger, but conversely it also makes those same tendons more brittle.Originally Posted by money13
this is where knowing how to mix and match steroids and how to tailor your training regimine comes into play. most people do not know enough to take into account all of these factors which is why so many under-educated people injury themselves while using gear...
but in regards to your comment about injury to mcl/acl/miniscus there are no medical studies that show that steroid use specifically increases injury to these areas of the body. the most common injuries seen by steroid users occur to the shoulder girdle...
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What would be a good source to learn more about these issues? I plan to do a test cycle soon, and have been concerned that I might injure myself because of previous problems with week connective tissue.Originally Posted by LAM
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How to Use HCG
Don't get caught. Your career will be over.
Secondly, how is your training?
"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
If you're gett'n tested, find some CLEAN. Ask some of your friends who know some pros. Cost a gang but you'll still have a career. Peace n Love
I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is what the baseball players use, right?
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How to Use HCG
i use a four day training split
monday chest/triceps
tuesday cardio/speed drills
wednesday back/biceps
thursday legs
friday cardio/speed drills
saturday delts/traps/shoulders
sunday off
That's one of tha 3 things EVERYBODY in pro sports use's. Peace n LoveThat is what the baseball players use, right?
I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like an awful lot of stuff..monday chest/triceps
tuesday cardio/speed drills
wednesday back/biceps
thursday legs
friday cardio/speed drills
saturday delts/traps/shoulders
"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
Looks alright to me, except I wouldn't do speed drills the day after legs.Originally Posted by money13
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6 days with no break? Football drills (if he's doing them right) are enormously taxing on the body...I don't know he he could recover from that with one day a week off
"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
Very taxing indeed. But, 21 years old + juice = quick recovery. I don't know everything that speed drills consist of. Hopefully, he eats right and gets 8-9 hours of sleep a night.


If you have existing problems, you are asking for trouble. With the increase in strength, comes the urge to lift heavier. You can't resist it, then you get popped. Be careful.Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
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Are you thinking of 'the clear', the BALCO crap? Mikhal is talking about stuff that helps you test negative for anabolics.Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
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Absolutely ! Clear was straight bullshit.
I present you with the gift of my PAIN as I rain down punch after kick after knee after elbow over and over and over again bring excitment to tha very fiber of my DNA, as my ears records tha sounds of bones snap'n and lungs collapse'n ,organs being SLOWLY turned into a very special jelly to tease my taste buds at tha very thought of tha smell of blood that will change tha color of his eyes from white to that glossy delicious deep intestinal red color. This and more I claim from each victim or new toy as I have come to think of them lately.I feel tha power of tha Voodoo all my Jamaican and Zulu forefathers died to keep secret and pass into me. This is my birthright, my gift if you will. I am tha VooDoo child, tha dream and tha nightmare, Tha villian and tha hero,tha bringer and tha destroyer.I am tha unwalkable road,I am tha unswimable ocean, tha unclimbable mountain, tha storm that there is no shelter to protect you from, I am tha final thought. You ask why am I like this...................... Because violence keeps me calm MUTHAFUCKA !!!!! I am tha muthafuck'n Serial Killa and I can smell your blood from here,Too hard for your Momma, Too hip for your Daddy Fuck Milk, Got TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!