pengers84

Ive been reading about hgh and although im not really considering using it i was curious if anyone knows much about it.

has anyone used it? was it effective?

ive read that it causes hyperplasia (increase in the number of muscle cells) do they keep increasing no matter how long you use hgh? or does it reach a limit at some stage?

if you went on a 50 day cycle would u get much hyperplasia? can you lose the newly acquired muscle cells? would the new muscle cells hypertrophy the same way normal cells do?

ive also read that if you use insulin with hgh you can lower the hgh dosage and get the same results, does anyone have experience with this? how much can you lower the hgh dosage by to get the same effect?

how much would a cycle set you back?

any thoughts apreciated greatly, cheers

Mudge

People have been on moderate doses for months at a time and been dissapointed, so 50 days probably wont give you much in the way of results. If you are under 30, you will have to wait longer to see results unless you are GH deficient, and your doses to get those appreciable results will be higher, 3-4iu minimum instead of 2-3iu. Some people respond really well, some are in the middle.

I've never used it, because the cost to gains is pathetic. Save GH for the big guys, or those that need it (sports rehab).

Insulin also has dissapointed many, nothing wrong with old fashioned testosterone.

GH domestically is around $2.75-$4.50 an iu, to find it for under $2iu you are ordering it overseas, buying it from an AIDS patient, or getting ripped off.

So anywhere from $5-$18 per day and you may or may not like it, after 3-6 months.

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LAM

you won't see any decent results from 3-4 iu's of GH until you have been on for 5-6 months (cost around $1600). GH is not for those looking for the "quck fix" in terms of fat loss or increasing LBM...

for a 50 day cycle get 1 mg of Long R3 IGF-1 (cost around $200), it's much more economical...you can run 40 mcg/ED running it 5 days on and 2 off for 4-5 weeks...

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What you talking about Willis ?

Mudge

A lot of people report results dying off after a month with IGF, but the prices are getting lower. $175 for 1mg is about the best I've seen, of course it does NOT work for so many people, and so many others lose their gains after the cycle (in terms of site induced growth) that I am not convinced I am going to try it for the simple sake that the classics WORK.

Test/Tren/Dbol for me would be a nice cutter, but I am not "alergic" to a tiny bit of water retention.

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LAM

yup...seems like best gains are from the 1st use.

I think I'm going to give it a go my next cutting cycle. going to run prop/tren/masteron/IGF-1 and try to shed some major bf...

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What you talking about Willis ?

Mudge

I've sure considered it, its not a bad price, but there are too many non-responders and such for me. Plus I know I'm hardly Arnold so I dont need to get too advanced just yet, now if I wanted a $ cycle... then I'd be on GH ED year round and be loving it I'm sure

I'd start with 2iu and see how that goes with sides, then go to 3, and 4. Some of the bigger guys can't even take 3iu to start, they scale up over time.

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Mikhal

Well, you cats got mad knowledge bout GH that I don't have a clue about. However I've used it several times For injury rehab and I've gott'n excellent results at 4 iu's ED. I've also noted that it seemed to enhance whatever ASS drugs that I was using along wit it. Thats just me though Peace n Love

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Mudge

Yep, by itself I wouldn't use it though. Rookies hear "Growth Hormone" and they think they will get huge.

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