19-chief

which tren should i get? tren A? tren E? tren C?(parabolan)
also, what should pct look like? ...hcg and nolva?

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LAM

I'm not sold on Tren E but in theroy it should work just as well as Tren A. But to be honest IMO for optimum results I would go with A and do ED inj. Regarding the Parabolan you are actually getting less tren per mg so it's not worth the money. I would also run HCG during the cycle at 500 iu every 4-5 days and follow a standard PCT...

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19-chief

how often would tren E injections be? 1x per week?

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19-chief

could you help me understand what is the synergistic effect of these two together? is the tren mostly for strength during a calorie resticted "cut"?

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LAM

lets see...neither of them aromatize so you have no major increase in water retention or ellevated estrogen levels. Tren interferes with LPL so fat storage is greatly reduced so lipolysis can be increased (under the right circumstanes, i.e caloric restriction). wintrol I belive is pyrogenic, so it will cause a slight increase in body temp which also increases lipolysis. then when you look at tren as being a very powerfull androgen and a mild anabolic and winstrol as a mild anabolic you have the abiltiy to gain a lot of strength and put on only quality LBM with that combination..

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LAM

you could do 1x a week, but personally I would still split the weekly dose and do 2 shots per week...

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19-chief

thanks LAM.

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Mudge

Parabolan would be H if anyone were to call it that.

Acetate costs the least, enanthate requires the least injections.

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19-chief

my bad... thought that's what i saw at ip. i know you guys have heard it a million times from aas newbies, but i'd prefer to stay away from numerous injections... thus, i'm probably gonna buy his tabs and do 50mg ED for six weeks... but what about the tren E?

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dg806

If you experience bad side effects, it will take longer to clear than acetate. Also tren enanthate is expensive!

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19-chief

i think i've only read that insomnia can be a side effect from tren... i only have ph/ps experience and i'm not a big guy... i was hoping a low-medium dose of tren would be ok... but what exactly would a low-medium dose be? (tren E and tren A, respectively.)
oh, and should i start the tren a week or two before the winny? (or is that only if i go with tren E? -to build it up in my system.)

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dg806

The normal androgenic side-effects are increased acne and a risk for prostate hypertrophy, and in some cases an aggravation of an existing hair loss problem. A low dose would be 50mg ed/eod and normal is 75mg ed/eod. I think Mudge had problems sleeping at 100mg ed. Tren Acetate is fast acting....

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19-chief

i know i'm probably wrong but would tren E be 350-500mg/week?

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LAM

I would do something like 150-175 mg 2x a week (sunday and wed)...

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19-chief

sweet... would you start the tren E earlier than the winny? 1 week or so?

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LAM

how long are you going to run the tren ? if 8 weeks start the winny at week 3. if you are running a 6 week cycle start them both at the same time...

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19-chief

well, that was going to depend on weekly dosage vs supplier dosages... i was only going to do the oral winnies for 6 weeks... but the tren E, if it needs time to build up, 8 weeks. if not, it could just be 6.

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