steroid.com cycle for a first cycle good or bad

hotwiebeo · 01-22-2005, 03:21 PM

Im just wondering what people think of this cycle from steroid.com for a first injection cycle. Ive done prohormones before but want to get into something alittle more serious like injectables and i want to keep water retention low, please tell me what u think of this for a first cycle. http://steroid.com/novicecycle1.php.

hotwiebeo · 01-22-2005, 03:39 PM

i forgot to tell you it is cycle #1-4

gococksDJS · 01-22-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hotwiebeo

i forgot to tell you it is cycle #1-4

A test/deca/winny cycle for your first? That is not a good first time cycle. I know veterans who won't touch deca because of what it does to your HPTA.
Just run test at 500mg/week for your first cycle.

Cardinal · 01-22-2005, 05:09 PM

I don't like any of those cycles! There are quite a few good boards out there with good sample cycles. You just picked some less than ideal examples.

Like gococksDJS said

Testosterone only or
Testosterone + Kickstart steroid for first four weeks

followed by Nolvadex pct

LAM · 01-22-2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotwiebeo

Im just wondering what people think of this cycle from steroid.com for a first injection cycle. Ive done prohormones before but want to get into something alittle more serious like injectables and i want to keep water retention low, please tell me what u think of this for a first cycle. http://steroid.com/novicecycle1.php.

1st cycle:

test enanthate or test cyp for 10 weeks. with nolva on hand for gyno and for PCT. that's all you need.

hotwiebeo · 01-22-2005, 08:32 PM

with this test am i going to have heavy water retention, because that is the main thing im worried about. I know there will be some of course.

hotwiebeo · 01-22-2005, 08:46 PM

should i take nolvadex with my cycle to avoid gyno or should i just wait until the end for pct

LAM · 01-22-2005, 09:53 PM

you can take 10-20 mg of nolva ED or EOD to help keep bloat down

**Pirate!** · 01-22-2005, 09:58 PM

I wouldn't do ten weeks without HCG either throughout the cycle or just before pct.

**Mudge** · 01-22-2005, 10:34 PM

Some people pull in lots of water, some dont. I know a guy that looks like a chipmunk on a mere 15mg of dbol ED, that doesn't happen to me. When I do drol I do pickup a lot of fast weight, it all hits my legs.

Mags · 01-23-2005, 08:45 AM

Is nolvadex the only thing to run whilst on/after your cycle. Okay so that'll clear any gyno, water retention etc bu I thought it only deals with the imbalance of estrogen after the cycles finished. That won't help you keep your gains as much as running HCG as well will it?

hotwiebeo · 01-23-2005, 02:01 PM

Would 10 weeks be to long for a first cycle of 500mg a week tho, maybe do 8 at 500 or 10 at 250 then pct, when doing pct should i take HCG and nolva or just nolva cause i want to make sure i maximize my gains and keep it. Im 5'11 at 200 pounds with around 7 percent body fat, my main goal is to hit around 225 + with one or 2 cycles and shred down to a hopefully ripped 215. Fat isnt really an issue with me since i have a very lean muscle structure. Would this cycle be the optimum way to accomplish my goal?

01-22-2005, 09:53 PM	#8
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	you can take 10-20 mg of nolva ED or EOD to help keep bloat down Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

01-22-2005, 09:58 PM	#9
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,145	I wouldn't do ten weeks without HCG either throughout the cycle or just before pct. My 1-Andro RX Journal

01-22-2005, 10:34 PM	#10
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01-22-2005, 03:21 PM	#1
hotwiebeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	steroid.com cycle for a first cycle good or bad Im just wondering what people think of this cycle from steroid.com for a first injection cycle. Ive done prohormones before but want to get into something alittle more serious like injectables and i want to keep water retention low, please tell me what u think of this for a first cycle. http://steroid.com/novicecycle1.php.

01-22-2005, 03:39 PM	#2
hotwiebeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	i forgot to tell you it is cycle #1-4

01-22-2005, 05:09 PM	#4
Cardinal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,009	I don't like any of those cycles! There are quite a few good boards out there with good sample cycles. You just picked some less than ideal examples. Like gococksDJS said Testosterone only or Testosterone + Kickstart steroid for first four weeks followed by Nolvadex pct

01-22-2005, 08:32 PM	#6
hotwiebeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	with this test am i going to have heavy water retention, because that is the main thing im worried about. I know there will be some of course.

01-22-2005, 08:46 PM	#7
hotwiebeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	should i take nolvadex with my cycle to avoid gyno or should i just wait until the end for pct

01-23-2005, 08:45 AM	#11
Mags LG Sciences Rep. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: East London, UK Posts: 1,068 Photos: 15	Is nolvadex the only thing to run whilst on/after your cycle. Okay so that'll clear any gyno, water retention etc bu I thought it only deals with the imbalance of estrogen after the cycles finished. That won't help you keep your gains as much as running HCG as well will it?

01-23-2005, 02:01 PM	#12
hotwiebeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	Would 10 weeks be to long for a first cycle of 500mg a week tho, maybe do 8 at 500 or 10 at 250 then pct, when doing pct should i take HCG and nolva or just nolva cause i want to make sure i maximize my gains and keep it. Im 5'11 at 200 pounds with around 7 percent body fat, my main goal is to hit around 225 + with one or 2 cycles and shred down to a hopefully ripped 215. Fat isnt really an issue with me since i have a very lean muscle structure. Would this cycle be the optimum way to accomplish my goal?