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Old 02-11-2005, 02:16 PM   #1
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ok i've got a question for somebody who knows problably mudge, i have 2 vials of british dragons test. cyp. that i'm about to go onto! i kno that there is a 90% chance that they are fake, but i'm going to give them a whirl anyway!! if they are real i will be VERY surprised.{WAY TO PLAIN LOOKING}........ but anyway how can i find out what they really are other then going to a lab? one of my buddys told me that you get a glass of water and drop 1 drop out of the pin into the top of the glass of water and if it sinks its a heavy moleculer structure{real} but if it floats it's BASICALLY like cooking oil of some sort{canola oil or vegtable oil} god knows what. but anywho my main question is what if i take it and it's not real how will my body respond to that and does it ever leave my body? how does the body sacrete it. and won't all that whatever it is, fuck me up and will it stay in my glutes or leave over time?







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you'll know if its real when u take it. I never heard of that procedure you mentioned.



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you'll know if its real when u take it. I never heard of that procedure you mentioned.
be more specific man,what do you mean i'll kno, and i dont want to kno anything exept the fact that will it fuck me up, and will it leave my body if it's not real? yeah theres ALOT of stuff you don't kno just like theres ALOT of stuff i don't kno, but anyway that procedure has always proved positive for me! try it. just one drop out of your pin........ LATER
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Go to their website and compare your bottle to the ones on there. I don't see how putting a drop in water will tell you for sure because test is not the only compound heavier than water. Liquid mercury is heavier than water, and I sure hope you wouldn't shoot that into your glute.
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Go to their website and compare your bottle to the ones on there. I don't see how putting a drop in water will tell you for sure because test is not the only compound heavier than water. Liquid mercury is heavier than water, and I sure hope you wouldn't shoot that into your glute.
IT LOOKS IDENTICAL! BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT HOPEFULLY MUDGE WILL READ THIS CAUSE EVREYONRE ELSE SEEMS TO BE RETARDED!! WILL IT FUCK ME UP? WILL IT SACRETE OUT OF MY BODY OVER TIME???????? WILL IT STAY IN MY GLUTES FOR EVER????? DUHHHHHH, WHICH WAY DID HE GO GEORGE?
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be more specific man,what do you mean i'll kno, and i dont want to kno anything exept the fact that will it fuck me up, and will it leave my body if it's not real? yeah theres ALOT of stuff you don't kno just like theres ALOT of stuff i don't kno, but anyway that procedure has always proved positive for me! try it. just one drop out of your pin........ LATER
If it has always proved positive for you, why are you now questioning it?
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IT LOOKS IDENTICAL! BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT HOPEFULLY MUDGE WILL READ THIS CAUSE EVREYONRE ELSE SEEMS TO BE RETARDED!! WILL IT FUCK ME UP? WILL IT SACRETE OUT OF MY BODY OVER TIME???????? WILL IT STAY IN MY GLUTES FOR EVER????? DUHHHHHH, WHICH WAY DID HE GO GEORGE?
Mudge is very informative and helpful, but he can't tell you how your body will react to anabolics. Thats something you learn on your own. If you are this scared why the hell do you still want to do them? If you ask me, your the retarted one for still shooting the stuff after being scared as shit and saying your 90% sure it's bunk gear.
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Uhm... I'm assuming British Dragon is faked a lot?



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I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that real gear would float on water too. The oil it is dissolved in is less dense than water, I'm not so sure that by dissolving 250mg/ml of test would weigh it down that much, you could figure it out, I'm too tired right now to fruck with it. If it was me I'd just new stuff from a more reliable source.



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Heck lets get real here. If you were to make 50ml's of test prop you would be using about (depending on the brewer) 36-41 ml's of oil. Helll that oil has to float. Go get you a glass of water and put some of you cooking oil in it. It won't mix with water gents, it's gonna float.
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Lots of different oils used with different densities, I have no idea what BD uses. A small amount of oil will tend to float on water regardless, throw in a whole lot of high density oil and over time it will sink displacing the water volume to the surface.

It either works or it doesn't, there is no way to test it reliably otherwise. If the product looks legit and you trust your supplier its most likely legit.

I have no reason to buy BD oils or orals, so my knowlege would be little different than anyone elses. You can't test it, without getting it tested by a lab.



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has anyone ever heard of vizion pharmaceutical or dna pharmaceutical
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There is no way to ascertain whether or not the vials are as advertised.. I would *never* recommend using gear of questionable content or quality.

You could identify the contents by in a relatively idiot proof way - in a lab, even without sophisticated equipment (thin film chromatography). The instruments make it easier, but if you know the compound, TFC is the fast way to do it.

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Regardless of the compounds dissolved in the carrier oil, the oil will float, as TOM points out.

Now, if there is product dissolved, when you add a small portion (larger than a drop, else you won't see the crystals) is added to cool water, the carrier oil will disperse over the surface as a thin film. The cosolvent alcohol will evaporate, and the product will be seen as a suspensate in the oil, appearing as flocculant bits, or crystals if the compound purity is high.

This is the "test" you refer to; it is qualitative, and quite a rough estimate method. I would view the results with a proverbial large grain of salt - since you have no fricking clue if the compound that appears as the flocculant is indeed the promised steroid analog.

Caveat emptor. Don't use if you don't trust the validity of your source.

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ok i've got a question for somebody who knows problably mudge, i have 2 vials of british dragons test. cyp. that i'm about to go onto! i kno that there is a 90% chance that they are fake, but i'm going to give them a whirl anyway!! if they are real i will be VERY surprised.{WAY TO PLAIN LOOKING}........ but anyway how can i find out what they really are other then going to a lab? one of my buddys told me that you get a glass of water and drop 1 drop out of the pin into the top of the glass of water and if it sinks its a heavy moleculer structure{real} but if it floats it's BASICALLY like cooking oil of some sort{canola oil or vegtable oil} god knows what. but anywho my main question is what if i take it and it's not real how will my body respond to that and does it ever leave my body? how does the body sacrete it. and won't all that whatever it is, fuck me up and will it stay in my glutes or leave over time?
do you know anyone else who has used the same stuff from the same source?? if not, stay the hell away from the shit if you doubt it so much.
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has anyone ever heard of vizion pharmaceutical or dna pharmaceutical
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one of my buddys told me that you get a glass of water and drop 1 drop out of the pin into the top of the glass of water and if it sinks its a heavy moleculer structure{real} but if it floats it's BASICALLY like cooking oil of some sort{canola oil or vegtable oil} god knows what.







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awesome!! this is like the test my old man showed me to test for the purity of heroin.
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