sustanon effects

Ryan-Boro · 02-20-2005, 11:51 AM

alright people, ive just signed up today!

im 20 yrs old 5'7, 160lbs, 14.5" biceps, 11.5" forearm, 24" thigh, 15" calf, 42" chest, 34" waist.

just started on a sustanon only course takin a 250 shot every 5 days. been on this 20 days, got a bit stronger but dont see much difference in size, any idea how long it will take to see some major changes?

thanx

Purdue Power · 02-20-2005, 01:35 PM

Well, first off, you needed to wait longer to gain more natural size before you started a cycle. Second, you should have jump started your cycle with dbol and you would have started your gains from about day 10.

Now that you have blown all of that, it will take about a full month before you see any changes. With that low of a dose, it might take a little longer.

LAM · 02-20-2005, 01:37 PM

did you increase your cals ? at 160 lbs you should be taking in at least 3200 cals a day

Ryan-Boro · 02-21-2005, 07:28 AM

yer my cal intake is quite high,im a pretty hard gainer, i eat like a horse, all the right stuff.....fresh chicken.tuna.fish,steaks,potatos,rice,wholemeal bread etc and lots of fruit.

i also take 2 sachets of protoplex a day, used to use creatine,then cell-tech, shoudl i start using them whilst im on my course?

LAM · 02-21-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan-Boro

yer my cal intake is quite high

do you count your cals ?

musclepump · 02-21-2005, 01:16 PM

What is quite high? I used to think I ate everything in sight while doing a see-food diet, but when I started counting I was 3,000, maybe 3,500 on a good day--not nearly enough.

Ryan-Boro · 02-21-2005, 01:16 PM

not really, ermmmm well this is what ive ate today and im going to the gym soon. 3 poached eggs with 2 slices of wholemeal bread toasted, a chicken breast fillet in a white bun, 2 bannanas, roast beef,chedder and salad in a granary bun, a pear, muller rice, 3 rashers of bacon,2 slices of wholemeal bread and a tin of beans. when i get back from gym ill be drinkin a protoplex meal replacement n then probs a few more small meals. is this enough? i normally eat more when im at work tho,todays me day off.

Tough Old Man · 02-21-2005, 05:29 PM

Do like they said and count your cal's. where not going to do this for you. Count your cal's, protein, carb and fat intake and then report back to us.

As for kicking off w/ d-bol on the first cycle I disagree. 500mg/ew of sus or test only for 10 weeks is the best 1st cycle.

Also how long have you been TRAINING?

Tha Don · 02-21-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

you should have jump started your cycle with dbol and you would have started your gains from about day 10.

i agree but dbol kicking in on day 10!!!? virtually everyone i've talked to that has taken dbol has told me that it kicks in pretty much instantly (on day 1-2), and within the first week alone you add 5-10lbs (mostly water but still!)

gococksDJS · 02-21-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by young d

i agree but dbol kicking in on day 10!!!? virtually everyone i've talked to that has taken dbol has told me that it kicks in pretty much instantly (on day 1-2), and within the first week alone you add 5-10lbs (mostly water but still!)

I agree, im up 7 lbs. in 6 days.

Ryan-Boro · 02-22-2005, 06:18 AM

i dont count my cals.to be honest i wouldnt know how to, i just eat a high protein and carb meal or shake every 2-3 hours. ive put on 2.5kg in 21 days on the sustanon only cycle,is this a decent gain or should i increase my cal intake?

Flex · 02-22-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by young d

virtually everyone i've talked to that has taken dbol has told me that it kicks in pretty much instantly (on day 1-2)

or hour 1-2

Dante · 02-22-2005, 09:20 AM

Ryan- use www.fitday.com to count cals.- you'll be suprised

**Mudge** · 02-22-2005, 09:25 AM

Sounds like a nice 2 meals for a little girl working on a farm.

Tha Don · 02-22-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

I agree, im up 7 lbs. in 6 days.

gawwwdddammmmmm! that is INSANE

if you could gain like that for the rest of the cycle (assuming its a 10 weeker) that would be around 85lbs! (yeah i know u wouldn't but still) a far cry from the 5lbs i've added on this 1-ad cycle

Tha Don · 02-22-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan-Boro

not really, ermmmm well this is what ive ate today and im going to the gym soon. 3 poached eggs with 2 slices of wholemeal bread toasted, a chicken breast fillet in a white bun, 2 bannanas, roast beef,chedder and salad in a granary bun, a pear, muller rice, 3 rashers of bacon,2 slices of wholemeal bread and a tin of beans. when i get back from gym ill be drinkin a protoplex meal replacement n then probs a few more small meals

sounds like my breakfast, but your missing the oatmeal, choc mint protein shake

and half a dozen more eggs

gococksDJS · 02-22-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by young d

gawwwdddammmmmm! that is INSANE

if you could gain like that for the rest of the cycle (assuming its a 10 weeker) that would be around 85lbs! (yeah i know u wouldn't but still) a far cry from the 5lbs i've added on this 1-ad cycle

I'm running 12 weeks of Test/EQ/Dbol, and dropping the dbol after 4 weeks. All this weight is water, so I wouldn't want to keep it post cycle.

02-20-2005, 11:51 AM	#1
Ryan-Boro Ryan-Boro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 420 Photos: 4	sustanon effects alright people, ive just signed up today! im 20 yrs old 5'7, 160lbs, 14.5" biceps, 11.5" forearm, 24" thigh, 15" calf, 42" chest, 34" waist. just started on a sustanon only course takin a 250 shot every 5 days. been on this 20 days, got a bit stronger but dont see much difference in size, any idea how long it will take to see some major changes? thanx

02-20-2005, 01:35 PM	#2
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Well, first off, you needed to wait longer to gain more natural size before you started a cycle. Second, you should have jump started your cycle with dbol and you would have started your gains from about day 10. Now that you have blown all of that, it will take about a full month before you see any changes. With that low of a dose, it might take a little longer. 5'8 1/2, 225lbs Your M1T Info Source Dream as though you'll live forever, Live each day like it's you last. Love like you've never been hurt. Tomorrow is never promised.

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02-21-2005, 07:28 AM	#4
Ryan-Boro Ryan-Boro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 420 Photos: 4	yer my cal intake is quite high,im a pretty hard gainer, i eat like a horse, all the right stuff.....fresh chicken.tuna.fish,steaks,potatos,rice,wholemeal bread etc and lots of fruit. i also take 2 sachets of protoplex a day, used to use creatine,then cell-tech, shoudl i start using them whilst im on my course?

02-21-2005, 05:29 PM	#8
Tough Old Man Canine club CEO Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: baja calif, Mexico Posts: 6,933 Photos: 1	Do like they said and count your cal's. where not going to do this for you. Count your cal's, protein, carb and fat intake and then report back to us. As for kicking off w/ d-bol on the first cycle I disagree. 500mg/ew of sus or test only for 10 weeks is the best 1st cycle. Also how long have you been TRAINING?

02-22-2005, 06:18 AM	#11
Ryan-Boro Ryan-Boro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 420 Photos: 4	i dont count my cals.to be honest i wouldnt know how to, i just eat a high protein and carb meal or shake every 2-3 hours. ive put on 2.5kg in 21 days on the sustanon only cycle,is this a decent gain or should i increase my cal intake?

02-22-2005, 09:20 AM	#13
Dante tryin to grow... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland Posts: 461	Ryan- use www.fitday.com to count cals.- you'll be suprised

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