Rough Cost Of Doing Cycles?

Mags · 02-20-2005, 12:57 PM

At the moment, i'm running searches on prices for cycles. Can anyone give me a rough idea of how much a cycle (below) would roughly cost? Anyone who has experience with this please help, so i can gain an idea as when i feel I know what's what and wanna go ahead with it, i don't wanna get ripped off. Cheers.

Test Cyp. for 10 weeks

HCG for 8 weeks

Nolvadex

Cheers.

**Mudge** · 02-20-2005, 02:26 PM

HCG amps are usually cheapest in 5000iu amps, which is good for 5 weeks @ 500iu twice weekly. You could stretch it out or work around it, or buy 1500-2000iu amps of course.

$100+ for the cycle, I assume you mean 500mg a week for the cypionate. With prices, the sky is the limit. Cost would be less if you were making things yourself, although that requires overstocking which means initial investment. Most people dont sell under 10 grams at a time.

Mags · 02-20-2005, 03:04 PM

one site sold Cypionax (which an article in a certain trusted BB mag said was good enough stuff if real) at 200mg/2ml= $10, 200mg/5ml=$25 and 200mg/20=$35.

Anabol, 100 5mg tabs for $35 and another site for $53

HCG was $25 for 5000ui's.

Tamoxifen was $60 for 100 10mg tabs

This good, or steep? Do these prices tend to show that the stuff is fake or just a rip off. I've never gone looking for sources you see and have only looked at a few sites to try and get an overview in prices/selling doses etc.

Im shocking at all these units going from ui's, to milligrams to millilitres. can you possible tell me what 500mg of test would be in ml's etc and how much 5000ui is in mls or mgs. I am real cloudy with all this.

lastly, with needles etc, what size needle would you use to shoot test and HCG?

Soz if i've mentioned anything I shouldn't have. Much thanks

LAM · 02-20-2005, 03:26 PM

I hope you are not planning on buying gear off some website

**Mudge** · 02-20-2005, 05:31 PM

Nolvadex tabs are overpriced IMO, unless you really want tabs or are willing to pay the difference, go liquid.

HCG domestically is unfortunately around $25 for 5000iu, its a commodity of sorts these days. The cheapest I have seen it for overseas was $7 that I can recall for every 5000iu.

If your product says CYPIONATE 250 then it means 250 milligrams per milliliter.

HCG is another story, that depends how much bacteriostatic water you add. I have typed this up so many friggin types I will have to do it again and link to it in my sig sometime.

Du · 02-20-2005, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

go liquid.

Bulk powder suspended in PEG or 151.

19-chief · 02-21-2005, 07:35 AM

the gear's not even that expensive relative to the time, food, and ancillaries.
got about $550 tied in materials now (gear, pins, nolva, hcg)...
still trying to get the extras stocked to last me throughout the entire cycle and PCT.
multi-vit
vit-b complex
vit-c
hawthorn berry
liver x (primarily NAC and ALA)
flax oil

don't forget to get the rest of your house in order, my friend.

Tough Old Man · 02-21-2005, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19-chief

the gear's not even that expensive relative to the time, food, and ancillaries.
got about $550 tied in materials now (gear, pins, nolva, hcg)...
still trying to get the extras stocked to last me throughout the entire cycle and PCT.
multi-vit
vit-b complex
vit-c
hawthorn berry
liver x (primarily NAC and ALA)
flax oil

don't forget to get the rest of your house in order, my friend.

19 is right. there's a lot more to it then just a few roids. When bulking, my food bill and whey protein is more then my gear.

gococksDJS · 02-21-2005, 05:13 PM

IMO the best way to go for nolva is to buy bulk powder and mix your own solution.

**Mudge** · 02-21-2005, 06:36 PM

Clean eating is the largest cost, if avoiding fatty meats, i.e. boneless skinless chicken breast. Rice doesn't cost a thing, fish caps nothing, $10-$20 whey protein a week still cheap IMO. Lean food source protein costs dough, and chicken is the cheap stuff. Start buying fresh fish and it goes up.

Tha Don · 02-22-2005, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

IMO the best way to go for nolva is to buy bulk powder and mix your own solution.

i prefer pills, much less hassle, i bought 160 x 20mg for around £40, thats still cheap IMO

Tha Don · 02-22-2005, 03:36 AM

mags FYI the test i'm buying (testoviron depot 250 - enanthate) at 500mg for 10 weeks (so 20ml) is costing $205

not sure which HCG to go for, seems like $50 can get you 4000iu of 1 brand or 15000iu of another brand! is there any difference between HCG brands?

my nolva pills were pretty cheap as i mentioned above, gonna cost me no more than $25 for the cycle

hope that helps a bit

gococksDJS · 02-22-2005, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young d

mags FYI the test i'm buying (testoviron depot 250 - enanthate) at 500mg for 10 weeks (so 20ml) is costing $205

not sure which HCG to go for, seems like $50 can get you 4000iu of 1 brand or 15000iu of another brand! is there any difference between HCG brands?

my nolva pills were pretty cheap as i mentioned above, gonna cost me no more than $25 for the cycle

hope that helps a bit

damn man, $205 for 20ml's of test?

Tha Don · 02-22-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

damn man, $205 for 20ml's of test?

yeah i know but its good stuff, from a very reptuable source apparently and i'd rather pay an extra $50 do get stuff i know is gonna be real than risk getting scammed tryin to save a couple of meazly bucks

Tha Don · 02-22-2005, 11:39 AM

how much you pay for your test then?

**Mudge** · 02-22-2005, 11:47 AM

In raw materials thats about $20 (USD) domestic.

19-chief · 02-22-2005, 11:51 AM

2x10ml amps ENTH 275mg/ml= $140
4x2000iu amp HCG =$80
$20 for powder, eh?

gococksDJS · 02-22-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young d

how much you pay for your test then?

I got 3 250mg x 10ml for $105. It's QV and came in the original packaging, and I checked the batch #'s and exp. date and they're legit.

19-chief · 02-22-2005, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

I got 3 250mg x 10ml for $105. It's QV and came in the original packaging, and I checked the batch #'s and exp. date and they're legit.

good deal.

Mags · 02-22-2005, 03:01 PM

this is confusing the fuck out of me. I was contemplating buying from a website as I don't know any sources and know your not supposed to fish around for them on here so i was just researching. I'm thinking of asking some fella who supplied my mate with Anabol/Dbol (genuine) and I know he also gets hold on Deca and Sustanon etc so he may be able to get hold of other bits and pieces. I'll try that. If that doesn't work what do you guys all suggest. I know this is a tricky one.

Secondly, I'm real sorry this is taking me this amount of time to grasp and you guys are probably getting sick of repeating yourselves, but from what i've established it is like mudge said eg. Cyp. 250 = 250mg per ml, correct? In that case if your shooting twice a week at 250 mg in one shot, that'd be 1ml getting injected? Have I got this right or am I still fucking it up? Again, if i bought cyp. 250 at 20mls that'd be 5000mg overall?

Lastly, this may be a simple question that I really should know, but what size needle and syringe capacity etc would you use to shoot 250mg of test.

Cheers for your time, constant patience and continuous help.

**Mudge** · 02-22-2005, 03:26 PM

250mg/ml x 10ml would be 2.5 grams, so yes 5 grams total for 20ml. Unless you are buying raw materials though, all you need to know is how long will it last you. If you are doing 2ml a week, then 20ml will last you 10 weeks.

gococksDJS · 02-22-2005, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mags

Secondly, I'm real sorry this is taking me this amount of time to grasp and you guys are probably getting sick of repeating yourselves, but from what i've established it is like mudge said eg. Cyp. 250 = 250mg per ml, correct? In that case if your shooting twice a week at 250 mg in one shot, that'd be 1ml getting injected? Have I got this right or am I still fucking it up? Again, if i bought cyp. 250 at 20mls that'd be 5000mg overall?

Lastly, this may be a simple question that I really should know, but what size needle and syringe capacity etc would you use to shoot 250mg of test.

Cheers for your time, constant patience and continuous help.

Don't worry about it bro, at least your learning before using. Be very careful about buying off some website, because they could be very expensive or a scam. If you have test cyp 250, that means 250 milligrams per milliliter. Usually, the reccomendation is 500mg's per week for 10 weeks, so you would most likely be shooting one ml twice a week so two ml's total a week. A 20ml vial would be the exact amount needed if you ran a 10 week cycle at 500mg's/week. The needle sizes vary depending on where you inject, but i use a 20 gauge to pull from the vial and a 25 gauge by 1.5 inch to inject. The capacity of mine are 3 cc's which is the same as 3 ml's. Check out www.getpinz.com and www.spotinjections.com

Mags · 02-23-2005, 07:29 AM

Cheers guys, since being on here for the last few months I have learnt shit loads thanks to you guys, so you do have my genuine gratitude. I know I still have untolds to really get clear on, but I'm getting there. I don't really plan on doing gear for at least another year as have finished college and am now living back home living and am skint. Wanna try and break (and try and stay at a constant) the 15 stone barrier naturally first ( which is only about 8 lbs away) than I'll see how I go depending on how easy I find that. Two questions though, what is the '20-25 gauge' part, the needle circumference, width etc? and what the difference with vials, bottles, amps etc, the amount they contain, if they're resealable (??) or just the type of container as they all seem to vary in extremes from one to the other?
Lastly, I've found some websites that seem okay (yet I admit I do not know for sure) and they seem to have allsorts, however, i'm not allowed to put these web addresses up on here am I, for you guys to check out?
Many thanks again gents.

rgrmike74 · 02-24-2005, 06:47 PM

gear must be cheaper away from here. im payn 125 for 10ml so 250 for a 10 week cycle....and thats bout the same price from different sources...mayeb i should move...lol

Du · 02-24-2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgrmike74

gear must be cheaper away from here. im payn 125 for 10ml so 250 for a 10 week cycle....and thats bout the same price from different sources...mayeb i should move...lol

Ya, youre getting ripped off. Sorry.

gococksDJS · 02-24-2005, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgrmike74

gear must be cheaper away from here. im payn 125 for 10ml so 250 for a 10 week cycle....and thats bout the same price from different sources...mayeb i should move...lol

damn bro, get a different source. $125 for a 10ml bottle? thats some expensive shit

rgrmike74 · 02-27-2005, 06:04 PM

it is the mexican stuff "loeffer"

would hope to find one but they dont wear signs...lol

02-20-2005, 12:57 PM	#1
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02-20-2005, 02:26 PM	#2
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02-20-2005, 03:04 PM	#3
Mags We ate the toys eddie! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: East London, UK Posts: 883 Photos: 8	one site sold Cypionax (which an article in a certain trusted BB mag said was good enough stuff if real) at 200mg/2ml= $10, 200mg/5ml=$25 and 200mg/20=$35. Anabol, 100 5mg tabs for $35 and another site for $53 HCG was $25 for 5000ui's. Tamoxifen was $60 for 100 10mg tabs This good, or steep? Do these prices tend to show that the stuff is fake or just a rip off. I've never gone looking for sources you see and have only looked at a few sites to try and get an overview in prices/selling doses etc. Im shocking at all these units going from ui's, to milligrams to millilitres. can you possible tell me what 500mg of test would be in ml's etc and how much 5000ui is in mls or mgs. I am real cloudy with all this. lastly, with needles etc, what size needle would you use to shoot test and HCG? Soz if i've mentioned anything I shouldn't have. Much thanks
	BUILD IT, AND THEY WILL COME. THE ONLY TIME SUCCESS COMES BEFORE WORK IS IN THE DICTIONARY. DO OR DO NOT - THERE IS NO TRY.

02-20-2005, 03:26 PM	#4
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02-20-2005, 05:31 PM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Nolvadex tabs are overpriced IMO, unless you really want tabs or are willing to pay the difference, go liquid. HCG domestically is unfortunately around $25 for 5000iu, its a commodity of sorts these days. The cheapest I have seen it for overseas was $7 that I can recall for every 5000iu. If your product says CYPIONATE 250 then it means 250 milligrams per milliliter. HCG is another story, that depends how much bacteriostatic water you add. I have typed this up so many friggin types I will have to do it again and link to it in my sig sometime.
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02-21-2005, 07:35 AM	#7
19-chief Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: south eastern us Posts: 854 Photos: 4	the gear's not even that expensive relative to the time, food, and ancillaries. got about $550 tied in materials now (gear, pins, nolva, hcg)... still trying to get the extras stocked to last me throughout the entire cycle and PCT. multi-vit vit-b complex vit-c hawthorn berry liver x (primarily NAC and ALA) flax oil don't forget to get the rest of your house in order, my friend.
	Information that the character 19-chief presents is totally fictitious in nature and is presented for role playing purposes only. The opinions presented do not encourage the use of illegal substances nor take the place of professional medical advice.

02-21-2005, 05:13 PM	#9
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02-21-2005, 06:36 PM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Clean eating is the largest cost, if avoiding fatty meats, i.e. boneless skinless chicken breast. Rice doesn't cost a thing, fish caps nothing, $10-$20 whey protein a week still cheap IMO. Lean food source protein costs dough, and chicken is the cheap stuff. Start buying fresh fish and it goes up.
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02-22-2005, 03:36 AM	#12
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	mags FYI the test i'm buying (testoviron depot 250 - enanthate) at 500mg for 10 weeks (so 20ml) is costing $205 not sure which HCG to go for, seems like $50 can get you 4000iu of 1 brand or 15000iu of another brand! is there any difference between HCG brands? my nolva pills were pretty cheap as i mentioned above, gonna cost me no more than $25 for the cycle hope that helps a bit

02-22-2005, 11:39 AM	#15
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	how much you pay for your test then?

02-22-2005, 11:47 AM	#16
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	In raw materials thats about $20 (USD) domestic.
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02-22-2005, 11:51 AM	#17
19-chief Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: south eastern us Posts: 854 Photos: 4	2x10ml amps ENTH 275mg/ml= $140 4x2000iu amp HCG =$80 $20 for powder, eh? Last edited by 19-chief : 02-22-2005 at 02:02 PM.
	Information that the character 19-chief presents is totally fictitious in nature and is presented for role playing purposes only. The opinions presented do not encourage the use of illegal substances nor take the place of professional medical advice.

02-22-2005, 03:01 PM	#20
Mags We ate the toys eddie! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: East London, UK Posts: 883 Photos: 8	this is confusing the fuck out of me. I was contemplating buying from a website as I don't know any sources and know your not supposed to fish around for them on here so i was just researching. I'm thinking of asking some fella who supplied my mate with Anabol/Dbol (genuine) and I know he also gets hold on Deca and Sustanon etc so he may be able to get hold of other bits and pieces. I'll try that. If that doesn't work what do you guys all suggest. I know this is a tricky one. Secondly, I'm real sorry this is taking me this amount of time to grasp and you guys are probably getting sick of repeating yourselves, but from what i've established it is like mudge said eg. Cyp. 250 = 250mg per ml, correct? In that case if your shooting twice a week at 250 mg in one shot, that'd be 1ml getting injected? Have I got this right or am I still fucking it up? Again, if i bought cyp. 250 at 20mls that'd be 5000mg overall? Lastly, this may be a simple question that I really should know, but what size needle and syringe capacity etc would you use to shoot 250mg of test. Cheers for your time, constant patience and continuous help.
	BUILD IT, AND THEY WILL COME. THE ONLY TIME SUCCESS COMES BEFORE WORK IS IN THE DICTIONARY. DO OR DO NOT - THERE IS NO TRY.

02-22-2005, 03:26 PM	#21
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	250mg/ml x 10ml would be 2.5 grams, so yes 5 grams total for 20ml. Unless you are buying raw materials though, all you need to know is how long will it last you. If you are doing 2ml a week, then 20ml will last you 10 weeks.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

02-23-2005, 07:29 AM	#23
Mags We ate the toys eddie! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: East London, UK Posts: 883 Photos: 8	Cheers guys, since being on here for the last few months I have learnt shit loads thanks to you guys, so you do have my genuine gratitude. I know I still have untolds to really get clear on, but I'm getting there. I don't really plan on doing gear for at least another year as have finished college and am now living back home living and am skint. Wanna try and break (and try and stay at a constant) the 15 stone barrier naturally first ( which is only about 8 lbs away) than I'll see how I go depending on how easy I find that. Two questions though, what is the '20-25 gauge' part, the needle circumference, width etc? and what the difference with vials, bottles, amps etc, the amount they contain, if they're resealable (??) or just the type of container as they all seem to vary in extremes from one to the other? Lastly, I've found some websites that seem okay (yet I admit I do not know for sure) and they seem to have allsorts, however, i'm not allowed to put these web addresses up on here am I, for you guys to check out? Many thanks again gents.
	BUILD IT, AND THEY WILL COME. THE ONLY TIME SUCCESS COMES BEFORE WORK IS IN THE DICTIONARY. DO OR DO NOT - THERE IS NO TRY.

02-24-2005, 06:47 PM	#24
rgrmike74 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 129	gear must be cheaper away from here. im payn 125 for 10ml so 250 for a 10 week cycle....and thats bout the same price from different sources...mayeb i should move...lol

02-27-2005, 06:04 PM	#27
rgrmike74 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 129	it is the mexican stuff "loeffer" would hope to find one but they dont wear signs...lol