Thread: 1st prick; not so bad.

I think we all remember our first prick

That...is...so...wrong...

I've never done injectables... the whole thing is still a little confusing. Guess I just need to do it and get it done. Aspirating, oddly, seems difficult. Anything particular to it?

no, nothing special. just think i need to get familiar with pushing and pulling oil thru the pin and the amount of pressure it requires... for me, my first aspiration seemed tough to pull on. and i'm not factoring in the fact one must keep the needle very still... shit, i'm pretty sure that's only reason i feel the shot at all today; all that shaking.

So aspirating is just drawing back on the syringe after it's in the muscle to make sure you're not in a vein?

Definitely use 1.5" 23g pins for glute shots, it's will make it much easier. Warming the oil will also help.

Originally Posted by redspy

Definitely use 1.5" 23g pins for glute shots, it's will make it much easier. Warming the oil will also help.

actually, i did fill the base of the sink with warm water and let them sit until i got out of the shower but i didn't reheat them when i finally did the deed. i did right glute yesterday and i'm thinking i might try right quad on thursday... does the trick, "stand up with arms at side -shoot between index and middle finger" work?

Originally Posted by musclepump

So aspirating is just drawing back on the syringe after it's in the muscle to make sure you're not in a vein?

yup.

Originally Posted by 19-chief

does the trick, "stand up with arms at side -shoot between index and middle finger" work?

that's a good spot. I also inject about 4" higher

thanks LAM... again.

Originally Posted by redspy

Definitely use 1.5" 23g pins for glute shots, it's will make it much easier. Warming the oil will also help.

i was gonna go with 1inch 25g pins to the glutes... will that be okay? or should i opt for a bigger needle?

Originally Posted by musclepump

So aspirating is just drawing back on the syringe after it's in the muscle to make sure you're not in a vein?

the only hard part I had for my first few shots was aspirating in my glutes because I can't twist around to use both hands, but you learn to get around it. Just pull back until you see air bubbles come into the syrenge then inject. If you draw blood, take the needle out and change tips. I usually load the test and EQ then put the syrenge under warm water, change tips, then shoot. For my quads I usually stand up, let my arm hang by my side, mark a spot between my ring finger and middle finger, then sit down in a chair and inject there. I have used 25g for both glutes and quads so far and besides the occasional sore glute have had no problems, and im using QV's test e which is known to be painful.

Originally Posted by young d

i was gonna go with 1inch 25g pins to the glutes... will that be okay? or should i opt for a bigger needle?

You will probably want a 1.5 in pin for glutes because you need to be sure to get through the fat and into the muscle, but I have had no problems with 25g. When you inject, all you feel is a small pinch, which is easy to get used to.

Originally Posted by young d

i was gonna go with 1inch 25g pins to the glutes... will that be okay? or should i opt for a bigger needle?

If you're really lean you should be okay. I prefer the extra depth, particularly as I don't insert the entire length of the pin (in case the needle breaks).

Well done! Welcome to the Dark Side.

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Well done! Welcome to the Dark Side.

thanks.

somehow i don't the injections will the problem... something tells me the eating and sleeping enough will pose more of a challenge. right quad is next, tomorrow.

Originally Posted by 19-chief

somehow i don't the injections will the problem... something tells me the eating and sleeping enough will pose more of a challenge. right quad is next, tomorrow.

eating enough can be a problem at times. If I wasn't taking EQ, I doubt I would be able to get enough cals.

23g doesn't make that huge of a difference. I used the 1.5" 23g in my glutes and it was still a pain in the ass twisting around to see what the fuck I was doing. I hate glute shots...for me quad shots are the best because you can use two hands and its right in front of you. For me even delt shots are not that easy because for me aspirating one handed and keeping the needle still is hard.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

23g doesn't make that huge of a difference. I used the 1.5" 23g in my glutes and it was still a pain in the ass twisting around to see what the fuck I was doing. I hate glute shots...for me quad shots are the best because you can use two hands and its right in front of you. For me even delt shots are not that easy because for me aspirating one handed and keeping the needle still is hard.

ok. as far as quads go, would i aim for 2/3 the way up the rectus femoris?

Originally Posted by 19-chief

ok. as far as quads go, would i aim for 2/3 the way up the rectus femoris?

I have always stood up, let my arm hang dowm by my side, mark a spot between my middle and ring fingers then sit down and shoot there. No problems as of yet. Have you checked out www.spotinjections.com ? It gives you a nice guide.

yes, i have... it's just that the outside shot illustrations look like they land right in between the rectus femoris and vastus lateralis. just trying to figure out which one i'm really aiming for. it sounds like you hit the latter. i'll let you know how it goes tomorrow!

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I hate glute shots...for me quad shots are the best because you can use two hands and its right in front of you.

ditto. I'll never do another glute shot again. calves, quads and pecs for me

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

23g doesn't make that huge of a difference. I used the 1.5" 23g in my glutes and it was still a pain in the ass twisting around to see what the fuck I was doing. I hate glute shots...for me quad shots are the best because you can use two hands and its right in front of you. For me even delt shots are not that easy because for me aspirating one handed and keeping the needle still is hard.

that is my only concern, actually not tearing a huge hole in my ass when i'm moving the needle around trying to get the aspiration done with 1 hand, then shooting with 1 hand too, seems like its gonna be quite tricky, might be an idea to practice a few times with an empty syringe to get my technique right first

Originally Posted by young d

that is my only concern, actually not tearing a huge hole in my ass when i'm moving the needle around trying to get the aspiration done with 1 hand, then shooting with 1 hand too, seems like its gonna be quite tricky, might be an idea to practice a few times with an empty syringe to get my technique right first

If you have one at glute height, use a countertop. I have an ironing board attached to the door of my bathroom and I push the pin in while standing next to the board, the plunger can rest on it without hanging down while I get a grip to aspirate and the same to shoot.

Originally Posted by 19-chief

ok. as far as quads go, would i aim for 2/3 the way up the rectus femoris?

As others have said I stand up and with arms to my side I shoot where the end of my middle finger is give or take a little....I know this probably sounds lame put I poke my leg a bit until I find a spot in the area that doesn't feel sensitive to being poked....in my head this seems like a way to avoid big nerves....maybe its all in my head but I've never hit a nerve in my quads yet. I shoot into the side not the top...if I draw a line down the center of the side of my quad I shoot up about an inch from that....in the area of where I said my middle finger ends...this would vary how long your arms are...I've been told you can divide your quad into three equal parts and shoot into the middle 3rd....which is about where my finger ends as mentioned.

I know glutes can take the most punishment for injections but they are such a pain the ass for me I won't do them again or until I get into some serious yoga and get more limber....I can't turn around comfortably long enough to complete an injection.

LAM how do you do calves without pain..I hear if you do them wrong it can be so painful....I really wanna give pecks a shot in the future...they are in a good spot as well...I like your injection rotation if I could only get the balls to do it.

Originally Posted by young d

that is my only concern, actually not tearing a huge hole in my ass when i'm moving the needle around trying to get the aspiration done with 1 hand, then shooting with 1 hand too, seems like its gonna be quite tricky, might be an idea to practice a few times with an empty syringe to get my technique right first

My best advice is to keep still....its hard when you're nervous and hands are shaking....but you have to push it in and then I find if I put my thumb on the little wing thing you put your pointer finger and middle finger on for when you push the plunger in, you can grab the plunger and then push up with your thumb and this would pull back (aspirate) on the plunger....then when you are satisfied with your aspiration you let go of the plunger...then push in the plunger....simple...so it seems right...haha.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

LAM how do you do calves without pain..I hear if you do them wrong it can be so painful....I really wanna give pecks a shot in the future...they are in a good spot as well...I like your injection rotation if I could only get the balls to do it.

I can't say that the inj sits are painless but not much more than how my calves feel from DOMS. sometimes there is no pain others more. one thing that I have found that makes a difference is that I feel more pain the day after if I haven't injected right after I come back from the gym and have showered. I think with those muscles they really need to be warmed up and relaxed.