Thread: learning about steroids..

the book Anabolics 2005 is a good place to start.

thanks, ill try to find that

what about the steroid bible?

Black cover, Jeff Summers right? He wrote that because he claimed the author of the Anabolics 200x series lied to him about where his information came from (he was lifting it directly off websites).

Jeff is full of shit half the time and gives similar advice. I love books, I just got 2 in the mail today, but I dont buy steroid books. The good ones are over $300 and not easy reading.

I did buy WAR 96 like I said in my PM, when it first came out. Has errors, like many others do. All the info is free if you just look. If you are 16 years old or something like your SN might indicate, you have a very long time to read for free anyway.

Originally Posted by DDan16

can anyone reccomend a good book that i can order online that will help me become educated in anabolic/androgenic steroids? i want to know everything i need to know about the history of steroids use, everything about every kind of steroids, and how to run a safe/effective cycle.

No book on the market will give you all that, and opinions on cycling differ. Summer's listed cycles with tapering and horseshit theories behind them. I know because I was on his board before he "went legit."

Even if a book taught you everything from A to Z, you would likely only retain a small portion of it. It takes time to understand all the terminology and things, there is a learning curve. I dont think anyone with under a 140ish IQ will just sit and read everything and soak nearly all of it up and understand it without spending months or years going over it again and again. Little by little, there is always time.

I know just about what I need to know and little else. Go over to CEM and read some of Nandi's stuff if you want to see how confusing it can all become, and he is well over my age spending lots of dough on the "real books." If you want to really know all that stuff, it becomes your life, most people dont honestly want that especially when young. Or head over to Pubmed and Medline and start reading some research dissertations. Thats where the real information is, and a perfect example of this being way more than is going to be found in some 200 page book written by someone who says "I'm a Guru, buy my book."

Have fun reading about these, most of which you will probably never use. WAR 96 has profiles on all kinds of drugs I would have no interest in taking.

BOLDENONE UNDECENOATE
Boldane - (Squibb, Germany)
Vebonol - (Ciba-Geigy Agrochemicals, UK; Ciba-Geigy, Australia, vet)

BOLDENONE UNDECYLENATE
Drive - (Australia)
Equibold
Equipoise - (Squibb)
Pace - (Jurox Labs, Australia) - never been made, all counterfits.
Parenabol - (Ciba)
Sybolin - (Australia)
Boldebal-H - (Australia)
Boldec - (Australia)
Boldenon - (Jurox , Australia)

CLOSTEBOL (Acetate)
Macrobin
Megagrisevit - (Farmitalia, Germany) Steranabol - (Germany)
Turinabol

DROMOSTANOLONE PROPIONATE
Drolban - (Lilly)
Emdisterone
Masterid - (Gruenthal, Germany)
Masteril
Masteron - (Syntex)
Masterone - (Portugul)
Permastril - (Cassene, France)

ETHYLOESTRENOL
Maxibolin - (Organon, Canad.; Organon, USA);
Orabolin - (Organon, Australia,; Belgium,; Organon, S.Afr,; UK)
Orgabolin - (France,; Ravasini, Italy,;Neth.; Sweden)

FLUOXYMESTERONE
Android-F - (Brown,USA)
Androfluorene
Androfluorone
Androsterolo
Fluotestin
Halotestin - (Upjohn, Austral.; Canad.;Denm.; France,; Italy,; Neth.; Norway,; S.Africa,; Sweden,; USA)
Oralsterone - (Bouty, Italy)
Oratestin - (Hoechst, Canada)
Ora-Testryl - (Squibb, USA)
Stenox - (Atlantil Labs, Mexico)
Testoral (Midy, Italy)
Ultandren (Ciba, Germany,; Norway,; Switzerland,; UK)

FORMEBOLONE / FORMYLDIENOLONE
Esiclene - (LPB, Italy
Hubernol - (Hubber, Spain)

FURAZABOL
Frazalon
Miotolon - (Daiichi Labs, Tokyo, Japan)
Myotolon

MEBOLAZINE
Roxilon - (Lepetit, Spain)

MESTEROLONE
Androviron
Mestoranum - (Schering, Denm.; AG.; Norw.; Sweden)
Proviron - (Argentina,; Schering, Australia,; Belgium,; France,; Germany,; Italy,; Netherlands,; South Africa,; Spain,; Switzerland,; UK)

METHANDIENONE / METHANDROSTENOLONE
Andoredan - (Japan)
Danabol (Canada)
Dianabol (Austral.; Belg.; Denm.; Fr.; Ger.; Spain,; Swed.; Switz.;(Ciba, UK; USA) Encephan (Japan)
Lanabolin - (Switzerland)
Metabolina - (Italy)
Metaboline - (Desbergers, Canada)
Metanabol - (Polva-Chemie,Poland)
Metandiabol - (Mexico)
Metastenol - (Farber-Ref, Italy)
Methafurin 60 - (Ludwig Heun Gmbh KG, W. Germany)
Nabolin
Nerobil - (Richter, Italy)
Nerobol - (Gedeon Richter, Hungary)
Perbolin (Italy)
Pronabol
Restauvit (Industrial Farmaceutica Remir, Mexico)
Stenolon
Trinergic
Naposim

METHANDRIOL
Androdiol
Androteston-M
Crestabolic
Diolandrone
Diolostene
Masdiol
Megabion - (Japan)
Metendiol
Methanabol
Methandiol
Methostan
Methasus (Australia)


METHYLTESTOSTERONE (Continued)
Perandren - (Australia,; Ciba, UK) (lozenges)
Primotest - (Arlo, USA)
Synandrets
Synandrotabs
Testhormona
Testin - (Norway)
Testomet - (Protea, Australia)
Testosid - (tabl)
Testoviron - (Argentina,; Australia,; Italy,; Spain,; Switzerland)(tabl)
Testovis (SIT, Italy)
Testred (ICN, USA)
Virilon (Star, USA)
Virormone-Oral - (Paines & Byrne, UK)

MIBOLERONE
Cheque Drops - (Upjohn)
Matenon

NANDROLONE CYCLOHUYLPROPIONATE
Fherbolica - (Fher, Spain)
Sanabolicum

NANDROLONE CYPIONATE
Dynabol - (Jurox, Australia)

NANDROLONE HEXAHYDROBENZOATE
Norlongandron
Nor-Durandron

NANDROLONE P-HEXYLOXYPHEMYLPROPIONATE
Anador - (France)
Anadur

NANDROLONE LAURATE (DODECANOATE)
Laurabolan - (Intervet International, Holland)
Laurabolil - (Organon, Netherlands)
Laurabolin-V
Nandrabolin - (Canada & Europe)
Norabolin

NANDROLONE FURYLPROPIONATE
NFP
Demelon

NANDROLONE DECANOATE
Anabolin LA-100 - (Alto, USA)
Androlome D - (Keene, USA)
Deca-Durabolin - (Organon, USA, Organon Aust)
Deca-Durabol
Deca-Hybolin
Deca-Ject - (Mexico)
Deca 50 - (Australia)

METHANDRIOL (continued)
Metidione
Metildiolo
Metocryst
Nabadial
Neostene
Neosteron
Neutrormone
Neutrosteron
Notandron
Protabol
Protandren
Sinesex - (Italy)
Stenediol (Organon, UK)
Troformone (Biomedica Foscama, Italy)

METHANDRIOL DIPROPIONATE
Anabolin
Drive - (Austalia, vet)
Filibol Forte - (Australia, vet)
Geldabol - (Australia, vet)
Pace - (Jurox Labs, Australia)
Probolin
Tribolin 75 - (Australia, vet)
Spectriol - (Australia)

METHENOLONE
Primobolan
Primonabol
Primonabol

ACETATE/ENANTHATE
- (Schering, Australia,; Belg.; Denm.; France,;Germany,; Schering AG, Norway,; Schering, S.Afr.; Spain,; Sweden,; Switzerland,; UK)

Depot - (Schering, Australia,; Belgium,; Denmark,; France,; Germany,; Italy,; Schering AG, Norway,; Schering, S.Afr.; Spain,; Switzerland,; UK)

S - (Schering, Netherlands,; South Africa,; Switzerland)
- (Schering, Argentina)
Depot

METHYLTESTOSTERONE
Android - (Brown, USA)
Androsan
Anertan - (tabl)
Glosso-Sterandryl - (Roussel, France)
Homandren - (tabl)
Malestrone - (tabl)
Mesteron - (Poland)
Metandren - (Ciba, Canada,; USA)
Neo-Hombreol - (Belgium,; Netherlands)
Neohombreol M (Sweden,; USA)
Nu-Man
Orchisterone (Italy)
Oreton Methyl (Schering,.USA)

NANDROLONE AND ITS ESTERS (continued)
Deca-Durabol - (Organon, Sweden)
Deca-Durabolin - (Arg,; Organon, Australia,; Belgium,; Canada,; Denmark,; France,; Germany,; Ravasini, Italy,; Netherlands,; Organon, Norway,; S. Africa,; Switzerland,; UK,; USA)
Decadurabolin - (Organon, Spain)<-
Durabolin - (Organon, Australia.; Belgium,; Canada,; Denmark,; France,; Ravasini, Italy,; Netherlands,; Organon, S.Afr.; Spain,; Switzerland,; UK,; Organon, USA)
Dynabolon - (Theramax, France.; Crinos, Italy)
Fherbolica - (Fher, Spain)
Hybolin Decanoate (Hyrex, USA)
Hybolin Improved (Hyrex USA)
Kabolin - (Legere, USA)
Keratyl - (Chauvin-Blache, France)
Menidrabol - (Menarini, Italy)
Methybol-Depot - (Switzerland)
Nandrolin - (Reid-Provident, USA)
Neo-Durabolic - (Hauck, Usa)
Nerobolil - (Richter, Italy)
Norandrol - (Italy)
Norandros - (Spain)
Nortesto - (Italy)
Sintabolin (Itay)
Stenabolin (AFI, Italy)
Strabolene (Isola-Ibi, Italy)
Superbolin (Italy)

NORETHANDROLONE
Nilevar - (Canada,; Searle, France,; Searle, UK)
Anaplex - (Jurox, Australia)

OXABOLONE CYPIONATE
Steranabol Depot - (Farmitalia, Germany)
Steranabol Ritardo - (Farmitalia, Italy)
Steranabol Long-acting

OXANDROLONE
Anatrophill - (Searle, France)
Anavar - (Searle, USA)
Antitriol - (Spain)
Lipidex - (Searle, Brazil)
Lonavar - (Searle, Argentina.; Searle, Australia,; Dainippon, Japan)
Omnisterin
Provitar
Vasorome - (Kowa, Japan)

NANDROLONE DECANOATE (continued)
Depo-Nandrolone (Schein- USA)
Dequibolin-100 (Vortech, USA)
Hybolin Decanoate - (Hyrex, USA)
Kabolin (Legere, USA)
Methybol (Switzerland)
Nandrobolic LA - (Forest Pharm., USA)
Nandrolate - (Spencer-Mead, USA)
Neo-Durabolic (Hauck,W.E., USA)
Pri-Andriol LA (Primedics, USA)
Retabolil
Tribolin 75 - (Australia, vet)

NANDROLONE PHENPROPIONATE
Activin (Spain)
Anabolin (Alto, USA)
Androlone - (Keene, USA)
Durabolin - (Organon, USA)
Durabol
Equibolin-50 - (Vortech, USA)
Hybolin-Improved - (Hyrex, USA)
Strabolene
Superanabolon
Nandrobolic - (Forest Pharm., USA)
Nandrolin
Nandrocot (Truxton, USA)
Nerobolil
Protabolin (Pasadena Research, USA)
Trobolin - (vet)

NANDROLONE PROPIONATE
Nortesto
Norybol-19

NANDROLONE UNDECANOATE
Dynabolon - (Theramex, France.; Crinos, Italy)
Trophobolene - (Theramex Monaco)

NANDROLONE AND ITS ESTERS
Activin - (Aristegui, Spain)
Anabolicus - (Spain)
Anabolin Depot (Amino, Switzerland)
Anabolin LA 100 (USA)
Anador - (Logeais, France)
Anadur - (Belg.; Denm.; Pharmacia Arzneimittel, Germany,; Neth,; Mekos, Norway,; Leo, Sweden,; Leo Suede, Switzerland)
Androlone - (Keene, USA)
Androlone D - (Keene, USA)
Anticatabolin - (Nativelle, Italy)

STENBOLONE ACETATE
Anatrofin - (Syntex)
Stenobolone - (Farmacologica Latino, -Sna-

TESTOSTERONE
Andro 100 (Forest Pharm., USA)
Androlan (Lannett, USA)
Andronaq-50 - (Central, USA)
Denistenil
Geno-cristaux Gremy
Histerone-50 - (Hauck,W.E., USA)
Homosteron
Malestrone - (amps)
Mertestate
Oreton-F
Orquisteron
Percutacrine Androgenique
Primotest
Primoteston
Shotest - (Shoals Pharm, USA)
Sten - (Atlantis S.A., Mexico)
Sustanon - (Organon)
Teslen
Testamone-100 - (Dunhall, USA)
Testobase
Testolin - (Pasadena Research, US
Testoject-50 - (Mayrand, USA)
Testosterone Suspension
Testro AQ - (Truxton, USA)
Testrone
Testryl
Virormone
Virosterone

TESTOSTERONE ACETA
Aceto-Sterandryl
Aceto-Testoviron
Perandrone A

TESTOSTERONE 17-CHLORAL HEMIACETA
Caprosem

TESTOSTERONE (Ciclo Hexame Propyonate)
Testosterone Retard Teramex - (France)

OXYMESTERONE
Anamidol - (Japan)
Balnimax - (Geve, Spain)
Oranabol - (Spain)
Oranabol 10 - (Farmitalia Carlo Erba, UK)
Theranabol

OXYMETHOLONE:
Adroyd - (Parke, Davis, Australia,; Canada,; Netherlands)
Anadrol-50 - (Syntex, USA)
Anadroyd - (Belgium)
Anapolon 50 - (Syntex, Australia.; Canada,; S.Afr.; UK)
Anasteron - (Syntex, Denmark,; Astra-Syntex, Norw.; Syntex, Swed.)
Anasteronal - (Spain)
Hemogenin (Syntex, Sao Paulo, Brazil)
Nastenon (French)
Oxitosona-50 - (Syntex-Latino, Spain)
Pardroyd - (Parke, Davis, Germany)
Plenastril - (Grunenthal, Germany,; Grunenthal, Switzerland)
Protanabol
Synasteron - (Belgium)
Zenalosyn - (Netherlands)

QUINBOLONE
Anabolicum Vister - (Parke Davis, Italy)

STANOLONE
Anaboleen
Anabolex
Anaprotin
Androlone
Cristerona MB
Gazzone - (Italy)
Neodrol
Pesomax - (Boniscontro, Spain)
Proteina
Protona
Stanaprol

STANOZOLOL
Anasyth - (Italy)
Stanozol
Stromba - (Aust.; Belg.; Winthrop, Denm.; Fin.; Fr.; Winthrop, Ger.; Neth.; Winthrop, Nor.; Sterling-Winthrop, Swed.; Winthrop, Switz.; Sterling Research, UK)
Strombaject - (Belg.; Fr.; Winthrop, Ger.)
Tevabolin
Winstrol - (Winthrop, Canad.; Zambon, Italy; S.Afr.; Zambon, Spain; Winthrop-Breon, USA)
Winstrol Depot - (Zambon, Spain)
Winstrol V - (Winthrop)
Stanazol - (RWR, Australia)
Stanasus - (Jurox, Australia)
Stanabol - (Illium, Australia)
Stanabolic - Illium, Australia)
Stanazolic - (Denkall, Australia)

TESTOSTERONE DC 1 HEPTYLATE
Testosterone Teramex - (France)

TESTOSTERONE ISOBUTYRATE
Perandren-M

TESTOSTERONE ISOCAPROATE

TESTOSTERONE NICOTINATE
Bolfortan - (Lanniker Heilmittel, Austria)

TESTOSTERONE 3-OXODODECANOATE
testosterone ketolaurate
Androdurin

TESTOSTERONE PHENYLACETATE

TESTOSTERONE PHENYLPROPIONATE

TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE

Androlan In Oil - (Lannett, USA)
Androsan - (amps)
Androtest P
Anertan
Bio-Testiculina
Enarmon
Homandren - (amps)
Hormosteston
Nasdol
Neo-Hombreol
Orchisterone-P
Oreton
Orquisterone-P
Perandren - (injectable)
Propiokan
Recthormone Testosterone
Sterandryl - (amps)
Testaform
Testex - (Pasadena Research, USA)
Testodet
Testodrin
Testogen
Testonique
Testo Prop - (vet)
Testormol
Testoxyl
Testosid
Testoviron - (amps)
Testrex
Tostrin
Uniteston
Tepro
Supertest - (Australia)

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE (cyclopentyl propionate)
Andro-Cyp-100 - (Keene, USA)
Andronaq-LA - (Central, USA)
D-Tes 100 - (Ortega, USA)
Dep Andro 200 - (Forest Pharm., USA)
Depo-Testosterone - (Upjohn, USA)
Depotest - (Hyrex, USA)
Depovirin
Depo-Testosterone - (Upjohn, USA)
Duratest-100 - (Hauck,W.E., USA)
Dura-Testosterone - (Ruckstuhl, USA)
Man-Agin - (Temesco, USA)
Meditest - (Med-Tek Pharm., USA)
Pertestis
T-Cypionate - (Legere, USA)
Testa-C - (Vortech, USA)
Testaspan - (Primedics, USA)
Testergon
Testodrin
Testoject-100 LA - (Mayrand, USA)
Testo LA - (vet)
Testred Cypionate 200 - (ICN, USA)
Virilon IM - (Star Pharm., USA)
Coopers Banrot - (Australia)
Spectriol - (Australia)

TESTOSTERONE DECANOATE

TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE
Andro L.A. 200 - (Forest Pharm., USA)
Andropository - (Rugby, USA)
Androtardyl (France)
Andryl 200 (Keene, USA)
Delatest - (Dunhall, USA)
Delatestryl - (Squibb-Mark, USA)
Durathate-200 - (Hauck,W.E., USA)
Everone - (Hyrex, USA)
Malogen L.A.
Orquisteron-E
Primodian Depot
Primoteston Depot - (Schering, UK)
Primoteston Depot 200 - (Kramer Pharm, USA)
Tesgro
Testate
Testinon
Testrin-P.A. - (Pasadena Research, USA)
Testoenant
Testone L.A. - (Vortech, USA)
Testoviron Depot
Testro-L.A. - (Truxton, USA)
Testroval
Tone-Tes - (Ortega,USA)
Sterandryl - (France)
Sustanon - (Organon, Australia)
Sustanon 100 - (Organon, UK)
Sustanon 250 - (Organon, UK)
T-Cypionate - (Legere, USA)
Tes. PP - (Organon, UK)
Testate - (Savage, USA)
Testex - (Leo, Spain)
Testex Prolongatum - (Leo, Spain)
Testinon Depot - (Japan)
Testo-Enant (Geymonat, Italy)
Testone LA (Ortega, USA)
Testoral - (Australia,; Organon, South Africa)
Testoral Sublings - (Organon, UK)
Testosterone Implants - (Organon, South Africa,; UK)
Testostroval-PA - (Reid-Provident, USA)
Testotets (Pharmadrug, Germany)
Testoviron (Argentina,; Schering, Australia,; Germany,; Italy,; Spain,; Sweden)
Testoviron Depot - (Belgium,; Schering,; Denmark,; Germany,; Italy, Spain,; Sweden,; Switzerland)
Testovis - (SIT, Italy)
Testred Cypionate - (ICN, USA)
Triolandren - (Ciba, De=ark,; Norway,; Sweden,; Switzerland)
Undestor - (Organon, Sweden)
Ropel - (Australia)
Spectriol - (Australia)

TIOMESTERONE / THIOMESTERONE
Emdabol
Emdabolin - (Chugai Labs, Tokyo, Japan)

TRENBOLONE ACETATE
Finaject - (Roussell, France, vet.)
Finajet - (Hoechst Animal Health,
Finaplix - (Hoechst Animal Health,

TESTOSTERONE UNDECANOATE
Andriol - (Organon, Australia,; Germany,; Ravasini, Italy,;Neth.; Organon, Switzerland)
Androxon - (Europe)
Pantestone - (Organon, France)
Restandol - (England)
Restinsol
Undestor - (Scandinavia)

TESTOSTERONE AND ITS ESTERS
Andradurin - (Sweden)
Andriol - (Organon, Australia,; Germany,; Ravasini, Italy,;Neth.; Organon, Switzerland)
Andromar Retard - (Marshall's Pharmaceuticals, UK)
Andronaq (Central Pharmaceuticals, USA)
Andronate (Pasadena Research Labs, USA)
Androtardyl - (Schering, France)
Androxil - (Spain)
Androxon - (Organon, Norway)
BayTestone - (Bay, USA)
Benzotest - (Italy)
Biosterone - (Biopharm, South Africa)
Cetovister - (Spain)
Ciclosterone (Farmigea, Italy)
Delatestryl (Squibb, Canada,; USA)
Deposterona (Mexico)
Depo-Testosterone - (Upjohn, Canada,; USA)
Depotrone - (Propan, South Africa)
Durathate - (Hauck, USA)
Enarmon Depot - (Japan)
Estandrorm - (Spain)
Femalone 25 - (Marshall's Pharmaceuticals, UK)
Framviron - (Oftalmiso, Spain)
Hydrotest - (Italy)
Jectatest-LA - (Reid-Provident, USA)
Lontanyl (Roussel, France)
Malogen (Stickley, Canada)
Malogen LA - (USA)
Malogex - (Stickley, Canada)
Neo-Hombreol - (Netherlands)
Orchisterone - (Italy)
Oreton - (Schering, USA)
Pantestone (Organon, France)
Perandren (Switzerland)
Percutacrine Androgenique Forte - (France)
Primoteston Depot - (Schering, Australia,; Schering AG, Norway,; Schering, South Africa,; UK)
Rektandron (Sweden)
Restandol (Organon, Denmark,; UK)
Retar-Gen A - (Temis-Lostalo, Argentina)

Originally Posted by Mudge

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE (cyclopentyl propionate)
Andro-Cyp-100 - (Keene, USA)
Andronaq-LA - (Central, USA)
D-Tes 100 - (Ortega, USA)
Dep Andro 200 - (Forest Pharm., USA)
Depo-Testosterone - (Upjohn, USA)
Depotest - (Hyrex, USA)
Depovirin
Depo-Testosterone - (Upjohn, USA)
Duratest-100 - (Hauck,W.E., USA)
Dura-Testosterone - (Ruckstuhl, USA)
Man-Agin - (Temesco, USA)
Meditest - (Med-Tek Pharm., USA)
Pertestis
T-Cypionate - (Legere, USA)
Testa-C - (Vortech, USA)
Testaspan - (Primedics, USA)
Testergon
Testodrin
Testoject-100 LA - (Mayrand, USA)
Testo LA - (vet)
Testred Cypionate 200 - (ICN, USA)
Virilon IM - (Star Pharm., USA)
Coopers Banrot - (Australia)
Spectriol - (Australia)

I cant find cypionate.

For a complete list of brands and drugs/esters, it would be a lot larger than that.

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days (dont believe this is correct)
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

I don't really think you will be satisfied with what you know after just reading a book. Too much of the info is useless and you'll never need it. I personally got a hell of a lot more off of reading message forums like this one.

IM is an excellent info source, but it is not a steroid board really. As Mudge mentioned, Nandi's board is a top quality board and one of the best on the internet hands down.

You'll get more practically useful information from boards where people have experimented with different compounds for years.

What I did was just start at the last page of each forum, and work backwards to the present reading any threads that I thought had value. I did this on about 10-15 steroid boards.

Alternatively you can run a search on a bunch of boards and look for the most commonly used compounds or just the ones you are interested in. For me it was basically...

1) Test Enanthate, Cypionate, Prop
2) Deca and Equipose
3) Trenbolone Acetate and Enanthate
4) Anadrol/Halo and the harsh shit
5) Dianabol
6) Masteron/Winny and that sort of thing

Plus maybe a few others that I forgot. I focused on the side effects and how to combat them so I didn't get more surprises than needed. Learned dosages and how long to run 'em etc.

I spent quite a bit of time learning the process of how the fuck to get it to my house without ending up in a cell block. That took me far longer than it should have but was worth it.

I waited until right before I started to learn how to pin, just bookmarked threads about it and read them when the time came. That is something that is really simple when you actually do it, but can seem like a nightmare to read about. And easy to forget.

There is a lot more to it, but that approach worked fairly well for me. I always keep in mind that I don't really know that much about a compound until it has entered my body and I have gone through the typical experiential education process that is so valuable.

Originally Posted by Cardinal

I don't really think you will be satisfied with what you know after just reading a book. Too much of the info is useless and you'll never need it. I personally got a hell of a lot more off of reading message forums like this one.

IM is an excellent info source, but it is not a steroid board really. As Mudge mentioned, Nandi's board is a top quality board and one of the best on the internet hands down.

You'll get more practically useful information from boards where people have experimented with different compounds for years.

What I did was just start at the last page of each forum, and work backwards to the present reading any threads that I thought had value. I did this on about 10-15 steroid boards.

Alternatively you can run a search on a bunch of boards and look for the most commonly used compounds or just the ones you are interested in. For me it was basically...

1) Test Enanthate, Cypionate, Prop
2) Deca and Equipose
3) Trenbolone Acetate and Enanthate
4) Anadrol/Halo and the harsh shit
5) Dianabol
6) Masteron/Winny and that sort of thing

Plus maybe a few others that I forgot. I focused on the side effects and how to combat them so I didn't get more surprises than needed. Learned dosages and how long to run 'em etc.

I spent quite a bit of time learning the process of how the fuck to get it to my house without ending up in a cell block. That took me far longer than it should have but was worth it.

I waited until right before I started to learn how to pin, just bookmarked threads about it and read them when the time came. That is something that is really simple when you actually do it, but can seem like a nightmare to read about. And easy to forget.

There is a lot more to it, but that approach worked fairly well for me. I always keep in mind that I don't really know that much about a compound until it has entered my body and I have gone through the typical experiential education process that is so valuable.

right on, thanks man im excited to get started.

I save things of interest in MHT (a compiled single file of that particular opened webpage in your browser), so I can go back to them later. The above sounds like a good idea. I love books, I just dont think anyone is writing one really worth buying at the $50 price point.

Legal Muscle would be a good one to have, and does cover some history. Other than that honestly, I mostly stick to the basics at this point. A little halo here or there might be of interest at some point.

Originally Posted by Mudge

I save things of interest in MHT (a compiled single file of that particular opened webpage in your browser), so I can go back to them later. The above sounds like a good idea. I love books, I just dont think anyone is writing one really worth buying at the $50 price point.

Legal Muscle would be a good one to have, and does cover some history. Other than that honestly, I mostly stick to the basics at this point. A little halo here or there might be of interest at some point.

legal muscle is at barnes&noble im gonna go pick it up, thanks for the references and the opinions.

Originally Posted by DDan16

ive just finished my 1ad cycle, an di started pct yesterday, and i plan to run 2 more cycles in the near future. when i get older, more into my 20s id like to run a real gear cycle.. but i want to know everything about them first. ive read a lot of threads and posts here in the last year or so and ive learned a lot but most didnt stick with me so i feel i could learn more from a book. can anyone reccomend a good book that i can order online that will help me become educated in anabolic/androgenic steroids? i want to know everything i need to know about the history of steroids use, everything about every kind of steroids, and how to run a safe/effective cycle. thanks guys.

your 15! haven't you got better stuff to do, like homework and chasing girls?

Originally Posted by young d

your 15! haven't you got better stuff to do, like homework and chasing girls?

i have a girl friend of seven months young_d, steroids interest me.. dont worry about it.

Originally Posted by DDan16

i have a girl friend of seven months young_d, steroids interest me.. dont worry about it.

put your pinkie in her butt, chicks like that kind of thing...